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LadyMadonna51 · 07-20-2008, 05:49 PM

So .. are any yorkies spared of this ?? Or is it all and every one ? If this is the case , why do breeders guarantee against this if it is all ? The breeder I used said she was shocked he had this ( his sister did too . ) and said I could return him for another puppy . Of course , I said "no thanks " which is what most want to hear I am sure .

marcerella02 · 07-20-2008, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LadyMadonna51

So .. are any yorkies spared of this ?? Or is it all and every one ? If this is the case , why do breeders guarantee against this if it is all ? The breeder I used said she was shocked he had this ( his sister did too . ) and said I could return him for another puppy . Of course , I said "no thanks " which is what most want to hear I am sure .

oh sure many yorkies go through their lives without it. But it isn't ONLY genetic...some arne't born with it but perhaps have a knee that might slightly less than perfect and then they jump off the couch and voila... LP. It's like anything... Labs and Shepheds are prone to hip issues.... Pugs... eye issues... it just is....

Ladymom · 07-20-2008, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LadyMadonna51

So .. are any yorkies spared of this ?? Or is it all and every one ? If this is the case , why do breeders guarantee against this if it is all ? The breeder I used said she was shocked he had this ( his sister did too . ) and said I could return him for another puppy . Of course , I said "no thanks " which is what most want to hear I am sure .

Yorkies, like any breed, are prone to certain genetic problems. A reputable Yorkie breeder will take precautions to make sure her puppies don't have luxating patellas. Did your breeder screen the parents by having their knees xrayed? Some Yorkie breeders take it a step further and have the parents CERF tested. Potential Yorkie puppy buyers should always ask to see documentation from the breeder's vet showing that the parents knees have been xrayed.

Even with careful screening, some Yorkies will develop luxating patellas from jumping on and off furniture. A vet should check the patellas on a puppy's first vet visit so it is easy to tell if the puppy was born with the slippage or it occurred later on.

LadyMadonna51 · 07-20-2008, 07:49 PM

I took the yorkie pup in within 48 hours of purchase and my vet knew then he had LP . The breeder dogs were certified clear ...however , genetics are genetics and back in the bloodlines ..who knows ? All I know the situation is what it is and I will do my utmost to make sure that Wizard gets the best health care possible .

Wigfur · 07-20-2008, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ladymom

Yorkies, like any breed, are prone to certain genetic problems. A reputable Yorkie breeder will take precautions to make sure her puppies don't have luxating patellas. Did your breeder screen the parents by having their knees xrayed? Some Yorkie breeders take it a step further and have the parents CERF tested. Potential Yorkie puppy buyers should always ask to see documentation from the breeder's vet showing that the parents knees have been xrayed.

Even with careful screening, some Yorkies will develop luxating patellas from jumping on and off furniture. A vet should check the patellas on a puppy's first vet visit so it is easy to tell if the puppy was born with the slippage or it occurred later on.

The parents were clear and he was clear when her vet gave him the all good. I had him at another vet for his second set of shots and he did not see anything with is knee,this vet a month later did however. I was very displeased with him on a whole he was rough with Leo and kept popping the knee in and out. I brought Leo home and he would not let me touch him, I called to find out if the shots they gave him would make him cry they said perhaps and he would be better in the next few hours.. that did not happen.. he cried in pain when we picked him up and he would not let me touch him. I called again furious and told them whatever they did they better fix.. well come to find out they had popped his lil knee out and not back in!!!!
The breeder is a good breeder and with out me even asking informed me she would pay up front for his surgery should he need it. So I'm pleased she didn't just tell me I could get another puppy, she knew i was in love with him already. Since purchasing him and waiting on him to come home she and I have emailed at least once a day and still do.

Wigfur · 07-20-2008, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by LadyMadonna51

I am well aware that a yorkie is a yorkie is a yorkie despite size . What I am not aware of is that "all Yorkies " have this !! According to my vet , it is in the breeding of smaller and smaller puppies that develops this problem . Yes or no? If I have known this before hand , I might have had second thoughts on the purchase of this tiny dog for my friend .

Oh my Leo is not tiny he is 14 weeks and 5.6 ounces of healthy lil man heheh

AMMARI · 07-22-2008, 07:43 PM

Sammy has this same problem, but I was referred to a surgeon for an evaluation. I was told and read that it is genetic. I have never heard anyone say that ALL yorkies have it, but it sounds like they are carriers?? I hope everything works out for you. And change that vet, go with your gut. And I was going to say that sometiems after their shots they are in pain, so part of his pain might have been from that.

yorkiesue1331 · 07-25-2008, 11:04 AM

My yorkie Hayley is 6 years old she has stage 1 or 2 vet found it at 6 weeks
he said the surgery was no guarentee and might make it worse. She is happy
and healthy. 5 and 1/2 pounds.

brigitte · 07-26-2008, 06:49 AM

my yorkie was diagnosed with a luxating patella when she was 9 months old and she is now 11 months old. we noticed because she was limping for a few days and we took her in as soon as we could get an appt. our vet (who was recommended by our breeder) said that she had a luxating patella and would not be surprised if she needed the surgery before the end of the year. he said he would worry about the surgery when she started having more difficulty. well i didn't want to wait so i took her to the ortho who said she should have it right away and also told us to give her synovi g3 treats which we could get off the internet. we started giving her these right away and the limp went away. we also took her to my husband's vet which he has been using for five years and who also does the surgery and he told us that he absolutely WOULD NOT do the surgery yet and that she may never need it. the ortho told us that her knee is out of place more than it is in and the other vet said that it is not that way at all. also on the xrays the ortho showed us, her knee was in place which i thought was a little strange if her knee is out more than it is in. we are watching her very closely to see how this develops because i really do not want to put her through a surgery if she would be ok without it. we got the synovi g3 treats off line and they really do seem to be working for her.

troubletb · 07-26-2008, 06:58 AM

In a young puppy, you can never really tell it has LP or not. (unless it is bad) You have to wait until they are old. Genetics are the reason some have it. I was told that one of my puppies might have it. Imagine how upset I was. Both mom and dad are my dogs! But when I brought the litter back at 12 weeks they couldn't find any slippage in any of them.
Thank God!

majic50 · 07-26-2008, 09:33 AM

I picked out Lucy when she was a newborn. We knew there was something wrong with her when she was only 4 weeks old, because she didn't walk. It was like she didn't know she had back legs. After I put her up on her legs a few times, she started walking, but she never walked correctly.

The breeder let me take her to the vet before I decided. He said she had grade 4 LP in both legs and would definitely need surgery. I had already fallen in love with her and I wanted her anyway.

The ortho vet in the clinic I go to said he had never dealt with a case that bad, so he sent us to a specialist who said she needed the surgery immediately before her ones hardened. That's why she had it done at 4 months.

It is genetic. The breeder had used a new stud, which she never used again and has never had the problem since.

Mayas Mommy · 07-26-2008, 12:10 PM

... the poor thing ... that must be painful for him ... hope the Vet can fix him up ......

Catrina · 07-26-2008, 02:54 PM

dont do anything.. wait it out... really because when princess was a puppy our vet diagnosed it too and said it would require like 3-4K surgery.. we waited it out and she kinda just popped it back into place and shes 3 now.. she hasnt limped since. if i were you id wait to see if it gets better!

07-25-2008, 11:04 AM	#23
yorkiesue1331 YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2	Hayley My yorkie Hayley is 6 years old she has stage 1 or 2 vet found it at 6 weeks he said the surgery was no guarentee and might make it worse. She is happy and healthy. 5 and 1/2 pounds.

07-26-2008, 06:58 AM	#25
troubletb Love my Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New Port Richey, Florida Posts: 2,271	In a young puppy, you can never really tell it has LP or not. (unless it is bad) You have to wait until they are old. Genetics are the reason some have it. I was told that one of my puppies might have it. Imagine how upset I was. Both mom and dad are my dogs! But when I brought the litter back at 12 weeks they couldn't find any slippage in any of them. Thank God! __________________ Karen~ Bell, Lilly and Peter's Mom http://www.freewebs.com/floridayorkies/

07-26-2008, 12:10 PM	#27
Mayas Mommy ..... and BLAIR'S too ...... Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Posts: 3,101	... the poor thing ... that must be painful for him ... hope the Vet can fix him up ...... __________________ Maya and Elvis ARE IN LOVE I LOVE MY LIFE AS A MOMMY AND A WIFE

07-20-2008, 05:49 PM	#16
LadyMadonna51 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 122	So .. are any yorkies spared of this ?? Or is it all and every one ? If this is the case , why do breeders guarantee against this if it is all ? The breeder I used said she was shocked he had this ( his sister did too . ) and said I could return him for another puppy . Of course , I said "no thanks " which is what most want to hear I am sure .

07-20-2008, 07:49 PM	#19
LadyMadonna51 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 122	I took the yorkie pup in within 48 hours of purchase and my vet knew then he had LP . The breeder dogs were certified clear ...however , genetics are genetics and back in the bloodlines ..who knows ? All I know the situation is what it is and I will do my utmost to make sure that Wizard gets the best health care possible .

07-22-2008, 07:43 PM	#22
AMMARI Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: New York Posts: 168	Sammy has this same problem, but I was referred to a surgeon for an evaluation. I was told and read that it is genetic. I have never heard anyone say that ALL yorkies have it, but it sounds like they are carriers?? I hope everything works out for you. And change that vet, go with your gut. And I was going to say that sometiems after their shots they are in pain, so part of his pain might have been from that.

07-26-2008, 06:49 AM	#24
brigitte Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: pennsylvania Posts: 17 Blog Entries: 1	my yorkie was diagnosed with a luxating patella when she was 9 months old and she is now 11 months old. we noticed because she was limping for a few days and we took her in as soon as we could get an appt. our vet (who was recommended by our breeder) said that she had a luxating patella and would not be surprised if she needed the surgery before the end of the year. he said he would worry about the surgery when she started having more difficulty. well i didn't want to wait so i took her to the ortho who said she should have it right away and also told us to give her synovi g3 treats which we could get off the internet. we started giving her these right away and the limp went away. we also took her to my husband's vet which he has been using for five years and who also does the surgery and he told us that he absolutely WOULD NOT do the surgery yet and that she may never need it. the ortho told us that her knee is out of place more than it is in and the other vet said that it is not that way at all. also on the xrays the ortho showed us, her knee was in place which i thought was a little strange if her knee is out more than it is in. we are watching her very closely to see how this develops because i really do not want to put her through a surgery if she would be ok without it. we got the synovi g3 treats off line and they really do seem to be working for her.

07-26-2008, 09:33 AM	#26
majic50 YT Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 267	I picked out Lucy when she was a newborn. We knew there was something wrong with her when she was only 4 weeks old, because she didn't walk. It was like she didn't know she had back legs. After I put her up on her legs a few times, she started walking, but she never walked correctly. The breeder let me take her to the vet before I decided. He said she had grade 4 LP in both legs and would definitely need surgery. I had already fallen in love with her and I wanted her anyway. The ortho vet in the clinic I go to said he had never dealt with a case that bad, so he sent us to a specialist who said she needed the surgery immediately before her ones hardened. That's why she had it done at 4 months. It is genetic. The breeder had used a new stud, which she never used again and has never had the problem since.

07-26-2008, 02:54 PM	#28
Catrina I love my lil wolf! ;) Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Washington Posts: 2,363	dont do anything.. wait it out... really because when princess was a puppy our vet diagnosed it too and said it would require like 3-4K surgery.. we waited it out and she kinda just popped it back into place and shes 3 now.. she hasnt limped since. if i were you id wait to see if it gets better!