Impact of mixed breeds/ "designer dogs"

[cheryl000]

I love craigslist, unfortunately backyard breeders, puppymillers, and brokers use it alot too. I don't believe a good breeder would use a forum like craigslist. I have seen a trend of more mixed breed dogs and the puppies going for higher prices. Back in the day, when there was an "accident" people used to give these puppies away. Now they're selling them while animals in shelters are going to die. I think that now more backyard breeders are going to be coming up.
I have a feeling this designer dog trend will have a bad impact on yorkies and dogs. First of all people aren't going to care much for the standard since half of the genes won't pass. While these designer dogs are puppies they will probably sell for crazy prices, but when they become dogs won't they now be called a mutt and have a hard time finding a home if it ends up in a shelter?
Also I think that other people who own a dogs are less likely to get it fixed. Suddenly the hard work of finding a perfect yorkie dam is out the window. Papers don't matter anymore. The standards don't matter. Now your yorkie or poodle stud can make tons of money by studding him out with every dog on the block. And instead of having that cute poodle and yorkie as pets, they can now make you some money. Heck, it does sound easy, you don't have to research the breeds now.
Sorry if this has turned into a rant. I'm just not sure if people are seeing the bigger picture or if I'm just being weird. I know that some people will say that small dogs don't end up in shelters, but fact is there ARE alot of them, even yorkies, just look on petfinder.com

"chorkies" http://orlando.craigslist.org/pet/122446571.html
schnozer/poodle http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/for/125531673.html
pug/poodle http://sandiego.craigslist.org/for/126508060.html
pit/mastiff http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/for/126290858.html
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/for/126526003.html
http://www.craigslist.org/eby/for/125405423.html
http://www.craigslist.org/eby/for/125349878.html
http://www.craigslist.org/sby/pet/126595361.html
This one breaks my heart... a true backyard breeder. They are too young to go from their mother (CA state law is 9wks I believe) and isn't giving them their shots.
11 6week old red nosed pit bull puppies

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Reply to: comm-126165955@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-01-17, 2:30PM PST


Parents on site. Purebred, no papers. Donation to cover vet and feed costs of parents and 13 puppies born. $150. Red & white and brindle & white.

Mother is a 55lb red & white from champion lines (owner never registered her w/AKC), excellent temperment, was a very obedient, un-hyper puppy.

Father is a 75lb, aggressive, protective and loyal brindle/white junkyard dawg.

Will trade puppy for first shots for all 11 left. Due to unfortunate legal situation, these little guys need to go to good homes with people who will get them their shots ASAP.

No pics available as of now, however are working on that. You can come to the Southside of Stockton in the evenings to view them, or say what color you want and puppy can be delivered to you. Cost of gasoline and bridge/parking will need to be covered. Cash only, deposit holds puppy. fouronefive seven two four twofivenine3

[Kodiesmom]

I see a negative response to this... I dunno why but its coming across to the general public as a FAD these new mixed breeds... nothing positive comes from Fads with dogs... its just like the "teacup" fad.

[livingdustmops]

It is negative as the breeders are in it just for the $$$$. They can take 2 cheap dogs and churn out what people would never buy in the past a mixed breed. They don't need to show a blood line and they have even convinced people that they can have papers on a dog (most people don't even understand what papers on a dog means) through another company that is just making more $$$ off of these poor dogs. As long as we keep churning out more puppies more dogs will die in the shelters.

Unless they can justify trying to introduce a new breed which is very expensive, time consuming and takes a hugh commitment.

[Breeze]

I have to say get posts Cheryl and the above posters, I agree!

[cheryl000]

Here is another one. How do they know what traits will pass? They're not gods, so they can't choose only the good traits from each breed to pass and not the bad traits. How do they know which fur the dog will inherit? I would hate to see someone believe that they are truely hypoalergenic (all dogs produce dander) and have one shipped to them just to find out they're allergic and have to get rid of it. I have seen people mix Dachshunds and yorkies and say that the new mixes won't have the back problems. How can they say for sure that it won't?



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[Breeze]

Opps, meant to say GREAT posts everyone!

[cheryl000]

Thanks Breeze. It just breaks my heart to think about these mixes that the pound are FULL of. Those used to be "accients." Now I can just see it getting worse when they grow out of the cute puppy stage. I really hope this fad ends quick. I hope that anyone considering paying big bucks to the mix breeders step back and really think about the bigger picture of encouraging this. Any of you that have already done so, I'm not bashing you. I believe that a full breed dog has a better chance of getting adopted out of a shelter than the mixes. I really hope that specific-breed rescues start adopting the mixes as well.

[livingdustmops]

Originally Posted by cheryl000

I really hope that specific-breed rescues start adopting the mixes as well.

Many of the reputable Yorkie rescue's do. It is just a matter of how much $$$ the rescues have and how many foster homes. There is never enough of either

[MeganS]

Maybe THESE generations won't end up in the shelter, but I have a firm belief that eventually a good number will! People see how much they can make from these dogs and they go "oooh puppies are cute, lets get rich." and they breed them until no one wants them anymore. Then the poor dogs who aren't wanted end up in shelters.

[Breeze]

I feel the same way, there really is a bigger picture.

So many people put just any two dogs together to produce cute puppies with trendy names without concern for health or any standard, just so they can make money. Then they take no responsibility for what happens down the line. Its sad all these dogs dying in the pounds because people were not responsible.

Thats why I believe that anyone who breeds should be responsible for the future of the pups they breed and have a spade/neuter contract to prevent their pups from adding to the huge pet population problem in the future.

[cheryl000]

My neighbors two houses down have a pug without papers and a rat terrier. They want to breed them together and stud him out. They're hoping to find a beagle so they can make puggles which run around $900 each over here. They're in petshops a block up for $1200 each. I saw puggles on Entertainment tonight, all they talked about is how the new hottest trend in dogs were designer breeds. Made me sick honestly.
This also makes it much easier for the puppymills. Now they don't have to worry about searching high and low for a female of a particular breed. A male poodle/yorkie/pug and any other female dog will do just fine. This new trend just bites.

[cheryl000]

Originally Posted by MeganS

Maybe THESE generations won't end up in the shelter, but I have a firm belief that eventually a good number will! People see how much they can make from these dogs and they go "oooh puppies are cute, lets get rich." and they breed them until no one wants them anymore. Then the poor dogs who aren't wanted end up in shelters.

You're exactly right. Wow girl, you're smarter than my neighbors! They claim to love dogs so much, but then they don't see how they could be sentancing those puppies or the puppies grandchildren to death. I asked them if they would be willing to take back a grown dog if the new family has problem. They said they couldn't because their landlord only allows 2 pets and they would lose money if everyone did that. I think that just speaks for itself right there.

[cheryl000]

I could honestly go on all day. Here is another one I've just seen. Only wormed and no shots? I think people see the petshops selling them for crazy prices and they want in on the action too. Bad backyard breeder!

LhasaPoos
Cute Lhasa Poos. Two black and white females and a black male w/white paws and tummy. All puppies have been dewormed and will be ready to go by the end of the week. These puppies are indoor only dogs, very good with families, love to play. All of the puppies are paper trained. Serious inquiries only.
If you would like to see the puppies we can meet someplace, as I don't feel conformable having people to my home since I am a single parent.
I am charging 400 per puppy. Mommy had to have a C-Section, so this is barely covering the costs. Also at any local pet shop they sell for 600-900 dollars (grossmont and el cajon mall) so plaease don't email me and ask if I can go down on the price.

[mojo5569]

I think that there are alot of people who want a smaller dog for a pet but dont want to spend a thousand dollars on one. having 2 smaller breeds mix would make it affordable to those who just want a companion. you can rarely find smaller dogs in shelters i know i have never seen them in one and when i have asked they tell me once they get them in they get a new home right away. so i dont think mixing breeds is a horrible thing but it shouldnt be over done either.

[Mydogkelsey]

Mixed breed or full breed...they will both end up in shelters. I dont regret getting my mixed yorkie poo and strongly dislike when others say it's "wrong" but that is their own opinion I suppose.