Wheaten Terriers!

[afrye06]

I've been thinking about getting a new puppy for a long time now and when I finally move into my new place I want to get a wheaten. I've researched them, interacted with a lot, and I know their personality well(i'm a groomer so I get to see their bad side from time to time lol).
unfortunately, 95% of the wheaten owners I asked said they get their dogs from petland and I'm definitely not doing that. The others said their breeders werent close to ohio and I'd prefer so to ship my pup.
I'm wondering if any of you other yorkie people know of any good wheaten breeders in or around ohio. I've checked the akc website, but I'd also like to have recommendations.
Also, I know a couple of you on here have had/do have wheatens. Anything besides common knowledge stuff I should know?
Thanks for any help you can offer!

[yorkieusa]

I don't know anything about these breeders and I'll admit I didn't go to their sites, but this will give you a start. Have you considered rescue?

http://breedersclub.net/html/breeds/...tedwheaten.htm

[Lorraine]

Originally Posted by afrye06

I've been thinking about getting a new puppy for a long time now and when I finally move into my new place I want to get a wheaten. I've researched them, interacted with a lot, and I know their personality well(i'm a groomer so I get to see their bad side from time to time lol).
unfortunately, 95% of the wheaten owners I asked said they get their dogs from petland and I'm definitely not doing that. The others said their breeders werent close to ohio and I'd prefer so to ship my pup.
I'm wondering if any of you other yorkie people know of any good wheaten breeders in or around ohio. I've checked the akc website, but I'd also like to have recommendations.
Also, I know a couple of you on here have had/do have wheatens. Anything besides common knowledge stuff I should know?
Thanks for any help you can offer!

I would never recommend a yorkie owner to get a soft coated wheaten Terrier. YOur yorkies are at risk of being seriously hurt or killed. Not so much maybe when the Wheaten is a puppy but definitely a very high risk when it is an adult.
Wheatens are hunters partial to rabbits. A dog's eyesight is not that great and easily will mistake a yorkie for a rabbit. Wheaten's have a very high prey drive. Unfortunately the Yorkie would be the prey.

[ritapatt]

We have a wheaten that is now 10 years, our Yorkie Ziva is 2. The poor wheaten, 35 lbs, gets abused by our 7 lb yorkie daily!
While Ziva chases salamanders, squirrels, birds- our wheaten,Lucy pays no attention to those animals- I find she is much more of a "herder" type personality, and has very few terrier instincts.My daughter is also less "allergic" to her compared to Ziva.
We got Lucy from Nebraska, she was shipped into Orlando, Internet buying was very new at that time. Feel free to PM me with any questions!

[Lorraine]

There will also be those exceptions. However, you must consider the breed, Wheaten and what it was originally bred for. It could work out, however, statistically, it could result very easily in the death or severe injury of a Yorkie. Do you really want to take that chance? Or have to forever keep the two separate in your home?
As a word of caution, I know a breeder who sold a Yorkie pup to someone with a Bulldog of some sort, don't know for sure what breed. First day the Bulldog bit off the Yorkie pups head, clean off. That would be horrifying.
I never ever will sell a pup or Yorkie to someone with certain breeds or young large breeds. I will say again, some exceptions work out but I will not risk my pup or yorkie in the hands of someone where maybe it will work. If it doesn't the consequences are way beyond what I could stomach.
Dogs are not people in fur coats, they are dogs, animals bred with certain instincts that you cannot change, only manage and keep things from being set up to happen. Disasters cannot be taken back once a dog is dead.

[afrye06]

I am very aware what wheatens were originally breed for. I've done proper research into both yorkies and wheatens. Big dogs and small dogs can interact and live together just fine...most of the time(there are exceptions to EVERYTHING). Yes, I have small dogs, but I'm not going to live my life in fear that something will happen to them simply because they are so small. Dogs are dogs. I love them, they are my "children", but there comes a point where you have to realize they are dogs.
My kids do just fine with all sizes of dogs. They've even played with german shepherds and *gasp* pitbulls! I'm well educated on animal behavior and breed traits. With all this being said, I would never allow my yorkies to be unsupervised with a larger dog. I plan on keeping them separate when I can't watch them. I'm not some compulsive shopper that goes into petland and picks out the cutest dog. I've done my homework and I would never get a dog that I wasn't sure my yorkies and I could handle and I would never enter into a commitment without fully considering all risks involved.
I want to raise a puppy myself that is from a high quality breeder so I can ensure all dogs involved get the best socialization possibly for our family (My girl is a puppymill rescue...I'm for rescue, just not in this case). This is why I don't feel a rescued wheaten is right for me. I've been in the pet industry for a long time now and I've seen/heard it all. I love little dogs and big dogs and like I said, I've done my homework. I appreciate the concern...some people would need others to educate them about big dog/small dog dangers, but I'm not one of them. Some of you may call me careless for my views, but that's fine because everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Again, thanks for your concern.
Rita- I'll keep you in mind if I have any questions!

[Lorraine]

Your attitude really worries me. I only thank the Lord that it is not one of my yorkies involved.
Interesting how most people consider that having a larger breed of dog or one bred with the hunt instinct seems to get it when I point out dog behaviour and instincts, that some breeds are not a match made in heaven with a small breed such as a yorkie.
I would only hope you do truly find a reputable SC Wheaten breeder to talk to about a pup. And I hope they are knowledgable enough to warn you or refuse to sell to you as long as you have yorkies.
Good luck and in 10 years or less you will know if you have made a mistake or not.
Owning dogs large and small not at the same time, well over 30 years now and being in Yorkies over 20 years, it is not something I would consider ever to have a SC Wheaten in my home with my Yorkies.

[afrye06]

You know its really sad that I can't ask a simple question without having my intelligence attacked. If I am educating myself and willing to assume the responsibility, who are you to judge me?
Don't, worry I would never dream of owning one of your dogs.
I have yorkshire TERRIERS. They were bred to be tough little guys, and mine are. I do not have prissy little purse accessories.
I started this thread to possibly find a great wheaten breeder, not to ask if you thought these two breeds could coexist. So unless you have breeder info to offer me, I'm not sure why you continue posting on this thread. I'm sure you find many other threads where you can contribute to the conversation in a positive, less judgemental way.

[DvlshAngel985]

Wow... For someone that claims they are here to be "educated" you have a very short fuse. Take a step back, calm down, and re-read the Lorraine's first post with an open mind. I don't know her personally, but judging from her avatar alone, she is a show person. I hope someone that takes the time to show, also knows and loves the yorkie breed. As an exhibitor, she simply wanted to let you know this breed combination might not be the best idea. A simple, "thank you for your input" or better yet, no reply to her at all would have sufficed. As a lover of this breed, I would have appreciated her taking the time to point out something I might not have known. She most likely meant no disrespect, but felt it her job to point something out before another heartbreak occurred. I agree that a prey driven dog that is much larger than a yorkie might not be such a good idea. But, if you're determined to have these two breeds together in your home, google "wheaten terrier club of america" to see if the breed has something similar to the YTCA. That should lead you to a breeder referral page.

For someone who felt insulted, you really didn't hold back on taking a shot on someone else's dog. Just because a dog wears a bow and has pretty, long hair doesn't make it less of a dog, or less of a terrier.

[afrye06]

I'm not sure what you're reading, but all I did was explain to her that I know all the risks involved. I DID thank her for her concern. I didn't bash any of her dogs. The only thing I said about her dogs was that I wasn't going to pursue any of hers. She obviously shows, so I'm sure her yorkies are beautiful.
My girl wears a bow everyday too...and? I was just trying to get the point across they are dogs that I am aware of the risks involved for my choices. You can't live your lives in fear that something may happen. What am I supposed to do when I have a baby? Get rid of my yorkies? Yea, I don't think so. I was hoping that part of the conversation was done. We have different views, both our views were voiced and then you come along trying to stir the pot more.
That thing most offensive about your post is you accuse me of not being open-minded. When in fact, what I'm doing is very open minded. I know a lot of people wouldn't welcome a larger dog in their home because they're scared of what *may* happen. Maybe you should carefully re-read my posts since you care so much about our conversation and see what I'm really saying.
I've been told off by 2 people over the internet...wow that's real mature. I never insulted anyone, or took "a shot" at anyones dogs. I am trying to find a reputable breeder to insure that I will get a high quality, mentally stable dog. I said numerous times I am aware of risks involved. I do not want an argument, or a" you shouldn't do that"...all I was asking was if anyone knew any wheaten breeders
Thanks for you suggestion, I have looked on the scwt club of america site.
I do not wish to argue about this anymore. I would have been fine with people telling me that's a bad idea...I even expected that. However, I should not have to be attacked over the internet. I want this to be a positive forum. So unless you have any helpful information about breeders, please find somewhere else to post when you opinion where be more valued.

[ritapatt]

I did think of something else that was an issue when I was looking for Lucy. There seems to be two different " varieties?" of SCWT. The Irish and the American, the way it was explained to me the Irish is a thinner softer coat, also a little more playful or rambunctious perhaps a bit smaller and darker coloring. I chose an "american" bred, Lucy is quite large, very light cream coloring (as an adult)(hardly any grey thru out muzzle and ears) very large black nose and paw pads., and VERY mellow. My neighbor has an Irish type and he is really quite different.Best to google "Irish wheaten terrier" and look at the difference in the different breeders full grown dogs.

[afrye06]

Oh that's good to know. I did know they had different coat textures, but I didn't know their personalities differed. Ill definitely have to look more into that. Thanks! I only wish they had one of these forums for wheaten owners lol

[ritapatt]

I think the personality thing is not written in stone, but yet referenced quite often when you read thru the info available.

[gemy]

Originally Posted by ritapatt

I did think of something else that was an issue when I was looking for Lucy. There seems to be two different " varieties?" of SCWT. The Irish and the American, the way it was explained to me the Irish is a thinner softer coat, also a little more playful or rambunctious perhaps a bit smaller and darker coloring. I chose an "american" bred, Lucy is quite large, very light cream coloring (as an adult)(hardly any grey thru out muzzle and ears) very large black nose and paw pads., and VERY mellow. My neighbor has an Irish type and he is really quite different.Best to google "Irish wheaten terrier" and look at the difference in the different breeders full grown dogs.

One of the things I would be looking for in a Wheaten Breeder, is that they temperament test their puppies. With that testing you should get a better assessment of the likely future temperament of your puppy.

The other idea I had, is if there are relatively nearby breeders who are either a) retiring a female or b) have a relatively young female/male that didn't turn out as a show dog.
Some friends of mine who were looking for an Airedale Terrier, lucked into just that very situation. They were the lucky recipients of a female that was older (2yrs old), housebroken, basic obedience trained, and had just the gentle temperament they were looking for.

Good luck with your search.

[afrye06]

Thanks gemy, that's a good idea! I bet your friend's airdale is beautiful...I think they're gorgeous dogs!