Support PAWS: Pet Animal Welfare Statute

[TLC]

I have decided to post this link here (may be a repeat, BUT WORTH IT).

https://community.hsus.org/campaign/FED_2006_PAWS

I thought YT would be the best place to start!
Let me just quickly share my feelings....

I am a BIG fan of (red98vett) and all her efforts of sharing and posting about "How to stop puppy mills". I know that there are many other members that are also in support and also post and I am also on your side as well. Lately, I have been feeling a little down (you all know those feelings). Well, I have decided that I really, really want to help out to animals that are being abused (in all sorts of ways). I have done a little research on the internet, but I am not able to watch a good portion of cruelty things. My personality is one that hinges and CAN NOT forgot, I will think about it every second to the point that it consumes me (which this has al ready started to do) and then it starts to be very destructive mentally. I am not by all means 'turning a blind eye' to animal cruelty by NOT watching, I just know what my limits are from past experiences. I have seen a very few mild to a little more than mild and I am haunted by it right now.

However, I really want to be active in STOPPING this abuse (as far as I can mentally go).

My first plan is to make a monthly donation. I can not afford a lot, but I feel that anything I can give will surly help. Next, I want to write e-mails and letters to our government. Which is why I posted that link above for PAWS.

I hope that I am not intruding or upsetting anyone. I actually feel a little better myself by posting here. I know that I can not personally stop this disgust, by I sure what to donate and dedicate as much of my efforts as possible to these helpless animals. AND I WILL CONTINUE TO HELP WITH THE FIGHT FOR AS LONG AS IT TAKES.

If anyone has more suggestions and advice, I really do appreciate it...

THANKS for letting me share this with you all!!!

Please spread the word...........

The Pet Animal Welfare Statute, PAWS (H.R. 2669/S. 1139), addresses this growing problem. Without PAWS, many puppy mills will continue to escape inspections, and the dogs will continue to live in misery.

[livingdustmops]

Originally Posted by TLC

I have decided to post this link here (may be a repeat, BUT WORTH IT).

https://community.hsus.org/campaign/FED_2006_PAWS

I thought YT would be the best place to start!
Let me just quickly share my feelings....

I am a BIG fan of (red98vett) and all her efforts of sharing and posting about "How to stop puppy mills". I know that there are many other members that are also in support and also post and I am also on your side as well. Lately, I have been feeling a little down (you all know those feelings). Well, I have decided that I really, really want to help out to animals that are being abused (in all sorts of ways). I have done a little research on the internet, but I am not able to watch a good portion of cruelty things. My personality is one that hinges and CAN NOT forgot, I will think about it every second to the point that it consumes me (which this has al ready started to do) and then it starts to be very destructive mentally. I am not by all means 'turning a blind eye' to animal cruelty by NOT watching, I just know what my limits are from past experiences. I have seen a very few mild to a little more than mild and I am haunted by it right now.

However, I really want to be active in STOPPING this abuse (as far as I can mentally go).

My first plan is to make a monthly donation. I can not afford a lot, but I feel that anything I can give will surly help. Next, I want to write e-mails and letters to our government. Which is why I posted that link above for PAWS.

I hope that I am not intruding or upsetting anyone. I actually feel a little better myself by posting here. I know that I can not personally stop this disgust, by I sure what to donate and dedicate as much of my efforts as possible to these helpless animals. AND I WILL CONTINUE TO HELP WITH THE FIGHT FOR AS LONG AS IT TAKES.

If anyone has more suggestions and advice, I really do appreciate it...

THANKS for letting me share this with you all!!!

Please spread the word...........

The Pet Animal Welfare Statute, PAWS (H.R. 2669/S. 1139), addresses this growing problem. Without PAWS, many puppy mills will continue to escape inspections, and the dogs will continue to live in misery.

Nicole - Here are two threads with even more information for you. Great what you are doing but you do need to be aware that most AKC breeders are against this legislation.

AKC Testifies Before Senate on PAWS legislation

PAWS Update

[TLC]

Cindy,
Thank you. You are also on my top list of people I look to for knowlegde. I tried to read through and understand but I just don't know what to think?
I just want to help and support these suffering animals in any way I can.
Can you guide me to an organization(s) that I could learn about and from that you truley feel have these animals rights in their best interests? Thank you again. You are a true asset to YT.

[livingdustmops]

Aw Nicole you are sweet and thank you for the compliment. Here are a number of organizations that I belong to and/or get their email newsletters:

Best Friends http://www.bestfriends.org
ASPCA http://www.aspca.org
Doris Day Foundation http://www.ddal.org
Humane Society http://www.hsus.org
PETA http://www.peta.org
AKC http://www.akc.org
Whole Dog Journal This one needs a membership http://www.whole-dog-journal.com

There are also other organizations but I think this is enough to get you started

I try to read as much as I can from any organization that is a pet advocate organization even if I don't agree with everything they do or say. I also found it interesting when PAWS first started that AKC was against it so I did some research and even asked breeders on here what their thoughts were. The best I can understand today is that most clubs were against this bill at first because it was poorly written but even with all the changes most members are still against it but I believe it is because they have not really taken the time to study the changes that have gone into place.

Please ask questions and I hope this helps.

[red98vett]

Awww...THANK YOU And GOOD for you !

That's outstanding ....you are really jumping in to help...I wish so much I were in a better position to put my money where my mouth is and have donated ....but is never feels like enough - but if people decided to do what you are doing - a little at a time - can you imagine how much we could help ?

Cindy gave you some great starting places....and also - keep writing your government officials - I also think writing our local papers and media helps - you just never know who will really listen and have the power to actually do something - but ANY effort is a GOOD effort ...your heart is in a good place !!

so to YOU ....

This is Millbusters - set up by our Yorkietalk - and you can find more information here all in one place - http://www.millbusters.com/

[kalina82]

Good for you for wanting to do more! I also have emailed and annoyed everyone I can about any animal issue i feel strongly about, and believe me there's alot on my list. I get monthly/weekly newsletters from many organization asking for petitions signed and whatnot, and i usually help if i agree with them. My friends get annoyed with me because i send them so many emails about this stuff and some don't care about it as much as i do. but hey at least i get some people to read it. You can PM me your email addy if you want to share in some of the stuff i get.

[topknot]

Dear TLC,
You do need to read everything before you jump in. PAWS is not good for our dogs at All and does not in any way stop Puppy Mills or pet shops from selling these dogs. It will only stop to good pet owner and good careful breeders - leaving people who want a pet to have to go to the puppy mills and pet shops to buy a pet. I do not think we want that.
My all breed AKC dog club is against this bill and so are most AKC clubs. Some links/organizations makes it looks like a nice bill, but they actually get a kick back if passed, because they will be the ones to monitor the checks and reap the benifits = lots of money.
For example - if the bill is passed and you buy a puppy but cannot go to the breeder to pick it up - you have a friend go by there and get your puppy since they are going by the area - well now your friend and you need to be USDA license. If you buy a dog out of the country, even Canada - you need a USDA license. Or what if you decide to co-own with someone - you need a USDA license now. Or you have a male and breed him to someone else's dog - now you need a USDA license.
What is a USDA license? Well, all I know is that it will make you have to house all your dogs in another building and that you can no longer keep them in your home!!!!! No more snuggles, no more sleeping with your babies, no more kisses. If you want to be with your dogs - you have to go out back and visit with them.
So just be sure to check into PAWS a little more and read beneath the double talk to truly understand what this would mean to everyone.
I am totally glad that you want to help - maybe volunteer down at your local Humane Society or be a foster mom to rescue dogs. They are a lot better ways to help.

[topknot]

Also - if you later decide to breed you yorkie and say she has 3 pups and you end up selling them even as low as 1,000 each - well by the PAWS bills you need a USDA license now since you went over the 2,500 a year selling. They do not take into account the cost of vet checks, maybe you ended up with a c-section, and there is always the pups check, dewclaws and tail removal, vaccines, etc... not incuding your time you stay up with the mom and pups tocare for them. Yes they do havethe over selling of 25 dogs - none of us would have that, but they still have included 2,500 - which could be any of us that end up having A litter.

They also use the term resale in this bill - which means anyone that sells not at wholesale - which then excludes the puppymills - since they sell at wholesale. So this bill excludes them! People do not realize this - thinking this is a bill that is suppose to stop puppymills when in actuality it does Not.

[topknot]

It sounds like the USDA is trying to seperate show/hobby breeder from dealer and until they have this worked out or worded better my club will still be against the bill. USDA are trying to word retail as if as long as the pups are not breed there where sold on premises you are not a retail pet store, which is better. But they still have something in there about if you sell a breeding dog - sounds like if your puppy that you sold is not spayed or altered - could mean this bill would apply to you.
They also have something in there about selling pups over the Internet. I do not understand this wording/implications.
All I know is that they must keep working on the wording and until it is directed more to the puppymills in order to stop them - I am against the bill along with many others.

[TLC]

I did not want to upset anyone. I came here for help and advice because I really want to dedicate some of me ($ and efforts) to help and support helpless animals.

I have been trying to read and understand and I truly thought that PAWS was created with the animals best interests in mind. I certainly would never want to support something that actually hurt and not really helped solve the problem/issues.

Unfortunately, the information isn’t always so user friendly. But, I think that what I am learning from you all is that PAWS is not the route to go, or at least until they are clearer and more focused. I am also learning that I need to learn more and more and more and then I can educate others. I am also going to donate because: I DO NOT NEED STARBUCKS ANYMORE, that $$$ can go to a better place. And I can also help with writing to officials.

My life so far has given me a few circumstances that have absolutely crushed my emotional strength. I am a very compassionate person, I want to help everyone and I really try to, to the point where it engulfs me. I am so sadden and embarrassed to say, but I can’t mental handle seeing the worst of the worst or any instance where I just could help at that moment. I would be haunted every second and it would absolutely ruin my mental well being. This is why I can donate and write (for now). I truly hope to physically be a part of something, somehow, someday…

[red98vett]

Hey Nicole - When I first saw the PAWS act - I believed like you it was to improve our system - and like you - learned from others what it really meant - so I totally understand where you're coming from -

and I'm sorry you've had such hardships that seem to have really crushed you ...but you should be VERY Proud of yourself for taking a stand and wanting to do something.......Each voice adds to the others and one day the people in posesr will do something to actually HELP dogs in our country....If I can help in any way feel free to ask ok ?

Even Donating Food To your Local ASPCA and Humane Society will be a huge help....

[topknot]

We are in no way upset with you - just trying to let you know what we heard about PAWS, so that you can educate yourself better - Just like you are doing. You are on the right track and you are doing a great job trying to find some way to help. I think this is why we were placed on earth was to find a purpose to help others, even our fur baby friends. Well, keep us up dated with what you ended up doing. Maybe we can help too.
I understand about going through bad times - my hubby (my soul mate) had a massive heart attack back last August and actually died for 3 minutes. I do not know what I would have done if he had not come back to us. Now that he is doing better and getting his strength back and almost back to normal - slow and steady goes it (he has good and bad days - still gets very tired)- we have decided to get our dogs trained and certified to be sevice dogs and we want to take them into nursing homes and children hospitals to help other recover faster. Yorkies are great due to their small size - great lap warmers!

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by topknot

We are in no way upset with you - just trying to let you know what we heard about PAWS, so that you can educate yourself better - Just like you are doing. You are on the right track and you are doing a great job trying to find some way to help. I think this is why we were placed on earth was to find a purpose to help others, even our fur baby friends. Well, keep us up dated with what you ended up doing. Maybe we can help too.
I understand about going through bad times - my hubby (my soul mate) had a massive heart attack back last August and actually died for 3 minutes. I do not know what I would have done if he had not come back to us. Now that he is doing better and getting his strength back and almost back to normal - slow and steady goes it (he has good and bad days - still gets very tired)- we have decided to get our dogs trained and certified to be sevice dogs and we want to take them into nursing homes and children hospitals to help other recover faster. Yorkies are great due to their small size - great lap warmers!

OMGosh !! That's awful for your husband and what a miracle he came out of it....

I know just how you feel - my husband died on the operating table 2 years ago - they practically declared him gone....I didn't ever talk about it but now it's a little easier....

It's VERY scary to hear that and then always watching them for more signs of heart failure - ALL THE BEST TO YOU !! I hope he continues to improve and good for you wanting to make your dogs therapy dogs - that sounds very rewarding and I bet will help your husband if not physically - mentally too -

Thanks for your imput in this thread - It was very interesting to read

[livingdustmops]

Originally Posted by TLC

I did not want to upset anyone. I came here for help and advice because I really want to dedicate some of me ($ and efforts) to help and support helpless animals.

I have been trying to read and understand and I truly thought that PAWS was created with the animals best interests in mind. I certainly would never want to support something that actually hurt and not really helped solve the problem/issues.

Unfortunately, the information isn’t always so user friendly. But, I think that what I am learning from you all is that PAWS is not the route to go, or at least until they are clearer and more focused. I am also learning that I need to learn more and more and more and then I can educate others. I am also going to donate because: I DO NOT NEED STARBUCKS ANYMORE, that $$$ can go to a better place. And I can also help with writing to officials.

My life so far has given me a few circumstances that have absolutely crushed my emotional strength. I am a very compassionate person, I want to help everyone and I really try to, to the point where it engulfs me. I am so sadden and embarrassed to say, but I can’t mental handle seeing the worst of the worst or any instance where I just could help at that moment. I would be haunted every second and it would absolutely ruin my mental well being. This is why I can donate and write (for now). I truly hope to physically be a part of something, somehow, someday…

Nicole - Trying to understand legislation is never easy for anyone and no one is upset. Topknot is giving her opinion and there is food for thought on what she has posted and I am sure other people could come along and say some of her comments are incorrect because of interpretation of the law. I have been reviewing this legislation for a long time myself and I do see problems and so I continue to read all I can. Whenever something comes up like this it is important to read both sides and ask questions so you are fully informed.

If you do a google search regarding Breeders against PAWS you will pull up many threads but be careful of the dates.

Remember, you can only save one dog at a time.

[livingdustmops]

Nicole - one more thing - this really is the perfect place to come and discuss this issue because we are a forum of pet owners, breeders and rescue and sometimes these groups can be in conflict. Here maybe we can talk about the issues and all learn. It is no surprise to anyone on here that rescue believes deeply in slowing down (in some cases stopping) the production of pets in this country. We do have a problem but maybe if all 3 groups worked together we can solve it.