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envrobear · 03-14-2006, 06:31 AM

So as some of you know my mom was put into the Behavioral Health Ward of the hospital near the house. This was last Tues. needless to say I didn't get much sleep maybe 4 hrs max. I went to work Wed. cause I didn't want to use a sick day, don't have many. I was sleepy but did my work that I was suppose to do and went to the meetings I was suppose to go to. On Thurs I came to work still not great but doing better. I was walking into my office, my one boss says we are having a meeting in 3 mins. I didn't say anything because he was looking at and talking to another person. Amy(my office mate) and I didn't know if we were suppose to go or not and our boss had disappeared. So we waited, we heard our bosses voice tell one of the guys to get so and so and so and so but didn't hear our names so we thought ok, doesn't involve us. Well about 20mins later my phone rings and it is my other boss (he has no spine and hates confrontation) he tells me to come to his office. Stupid me thought it was to talk about a case I am working on. I was sooo wrong. I get there both my bosses are there, they close the door and tell me to sit where they can see me. My other boss starts yelling and asks if I thought I was exempt from the meeting I explained I didn't know I was suppose to be at it. Then I'm told I need to not waste my leave time and take days off just because. I told them I don't and that the only time I take off is when I'm sick or need the day off. Umm, remember I had my appendix out in Oct and wasn't at work for 3 weeks.

My boss goes I know you're having family issues, and you work is suffering(it had been one day and I had done all my work) I said well my mom's in the hospital, he starts asking where I say Orange Park, he goes no what floor I wasn't going to answer but he kept pushing so I said if you must know the mental health ward and started crying. My other boss brings out tissues like they had planed to have some entertainment for the day and I was it. The other boss starts saying well I have experience in this and tells me what drugs my mom needs and then starts saying that my dad and I didn't try hard enough to get mom in to see Drs. and that if my mom wanted to killer herself it was for attention and wouldn't have tried. He was saying stay away from Prozac it will cause you to get worse, I had had it at this point and said well that's odd I've been on it for 10yrs and I'm fine.

He then told me to forget about mom and let my dad deal with it that I should distance myself and focus on work. He finishes by saying that's it. I leave and go back to the office shocked. Amy was to. I still get so angry by their reactions. I called me dad and told him what went on and he told me I needed to file a grievance not only for that but I have been passed over for promotions, I am still a level one and been working here 2 almost 3 yrs, Some girl who has been working here for a year, got promoted from level 1 to 2 in 6 months of working here. I have had nothing but 5 out of 5 on my reviews.

I know fileing a grievance will make life worse than it is now but I don't think they should be allowed to treat people this way, it is a State Agency for petesakes!!

Michelle

Claire · 03-14-2006, 06:46 AM

They should not treat you this way, it is wrong. File that grevience....
You deserve to be treated so much better then that!
Good luck on everything!
-Claire

rrosenberry · 03-14-2006, 06:52 AM

Wow, who's business is it?? Why do they feel it is ok to pry into your personal, family matters? That is way out of line.. and to give you medical advise, Not sure what kind of work you do,if it's not in the medical field, it is WAY out of line.. can you go to someone above them and tell them exactly what you told us,and how it made you feel, How many were in the office when this happened,, if it was more than you and the two bosses? It is out of line again,.. wow, that is ridiculous, if you ask me.. and leave time and personal days are just that PERSONAL,and up to you how to use them.
Let us know what happens...

nifer · 03-14-2006, 07:05 AM

^^

agreed. they shouldn't be noseying into your private health issues no matter what field you are in. they don't know you or your mom's detailed medical history so they have no basis to make any claim/hand out advice on.

their handling of the situation seems very unprofessional. it's better to address this issue with your HR department and have it dealt with rather than just sitting in a job you despise.

good luck.

envrobear · 03-14-2006, 07:06 AM

Nope not in the medical field.

It was just me and the two bosses.

This isn't the first time and I know when I file the grievance it will get worse. I can't go to anybody in the HR dept. cause they will just blab back to my bosses. Another girl in my section filed a grievance about race harassment and now my boss want look at her or talk to her and she is his sectary.

They guy who I use to share an office with left because they found out he was looking for another job and stated accusing him of stealing digital cameras, taking the state car for personal use, and lying about millage. When I took over the asbestos (I was forced) the first thing they told me was well all the asbestos people go crazy in a few years, I guess they are trying to speed me up. They have already started saying that I am lying about sending out warning letters (of which I stood up for myself and informed my boss he sent it) he had he forgot...he says and I haven't even sent in the grievance.

I will keep you posted

LaLoca1 · 03-14-2006, 09:30 AM

As someone who works in the Behavioral Health field, I hope that your mom is getting all the best care possible.

I'm a Supervisor at my job, and I could NEVER imagine being as rude, ignorant, and insensitive as your bosses! Like many have said on here, they have NO RIGHT to demand to know the medical situation of your mother. Medical information privacy is covered by the HIPAA act. http://www.hipaa.org I cannot believe they pressured you to tell them what was going on.

I understand that you feel uncomfortable going to HR about your boss. I have had some unpleasant circumstances with HR as well and the 'private' information did find its way back to my boss.

Do you have an employee relations department at your job or something similar where you can go to filre a complaint against co-workers?

Please keep us informed. Good luck!

porkieyorkie · 03-14-2006, 09:56 AM

"Holy Hippa Violation" I would go to the "Hippa police"(that is what we call the Hippa Pple at my hospital) and the Corp. office If I had to, but you need to go to someone about these jerks!

envrobear · 03-14-2006, 10:13 AM

I work for the state so the closest thing to Corp. would be Tallahassee, which is where the grievance is to be filed. Thanks for your words. I know it's wrong but when you have outside people tell you it makes it all the more real. I just scared about repercussions as I said in my other post, I have thought about filling one before for another incident but decided against cause I just don't like this job nor see it as something I want to fight for, but I don't want them to continue treating people this way it is not right.

nifer · 03-14-2006, 10:30 AM

they're violating the law and trampling over your rights, that should make it enough for you to want to stick up for yourself. being in a job that you don't really enjoy can make you feel nonchalant about things and it can be easy to dismiss things. they are totally in the wrong though, and they need to be made aware of that.

maybe this is a sign that you need to get out of this job that you find no enjoyment in. no doubt you'll be able to find a company/organization that better suits you and can benefit from your expertise.

sneri13 · 03-14-2006, 01:07 PM

I agree, I would file a grievence report immediately. That is no way to be treated and they hav ABSOLUTLEY no rights nosing around in your personal business.

Jaspermom · 03-14-2006, 01:33 PM

As though it is not bad enough having a mom who is going through such a terrible time, you have to put up with these two jerks just to top it all off.

I am so sorry for your situation, but there is no way I would just do nothing about it if it were me. They need to quit treating people this way, and the only way that will happen is if someone is brave enough to stand up and give it to them. I know you are going through a lot right now, so my thought is to document the conversation as closely as you can, sign and date it, and forward to the proper person at corporation. Keep a copy, and mail it with "return receipt requested". Let them know that due to your family situation you do not have the energy or the time to pursue a formal complaint, but you thought that someone in authority should know that you feel your rights have been violated by this conversation, and you may pursue it in the future.

My 2 cents. Advice is always worth exactly what you pay for it... Absolutely nothing... but if it helps, I am glad!

Good luck, dear, and keep us posted, OK?

Hugs to you! You need as many of those as you can get.

03-14-2006, 06:31 AM	#1
envrobear YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: OP, Fl Posts: 614	I think I'm fileing a Grevience So as some of you know my mom was put into the Behavioral Health Ward of the hospital near the house. This was last Tues. needless to say I didn't get much sleep maybe 4 hrs max. I went to work Wed. cause I didn't want to use a sick day, don't have many. I was sleepy but did my work that I was suppose to do and went to the meetings I was suppose to go to. On Thurs I came to work still not great but doing better. I was walking into my office, my one boss says we are having a meeting in 3 mins. I didn't say anything because he was looking at and talking to another person. Amy(my office mate) and I didn't know if we were suppose to go or not and our boss had disappeared. So we waited, we heard our bosses voice tell one of the guys to get so and so and so and so but didn't hear our names so we thought ok, doesn't involve us. Well about 20mins later my phone rings and it is my other boss (he has no spine and hates confrontation) he tells me to come to his office. Stupid me thought it was to talk about a case I am working on. I was sooo wrong. I get there both my bosses are there, they close the door and tell me to sit where they can see me. My other boss starts yelling and asks if I thought I was exempt from the meeting I explained I didn't know I was suppose to be at it. Then I'm told I need to not waste my leave time and take days off just because. I told them I don't and that the only time I take off is when I'm sick or need the day off. Umm, remember I had my appendix out in Oct and wasn't at work for 3 weeks. My boss goes I know you're having family issues, and you work is suffering(it had been one day and I had done all my work) I said well my mom's in the hospital, he starts asking where I say Orange Park, he goes no what floor I wasn't going to answer but he kept pushing so I said if you must know the mental health ward and started crying. My other boss brings out tissues like they had planed to have some entertainment for the day and I was it. The other boss starts saying well I have experience in this and tells me what drugs my mom needs and then starts saying that my dad and I didn't try hard enough to get mom in to see Drs. and that if my mom wanted to killer herself it was for attention and wouldn't have tried. He was saying stay away from Prozac it will cause you to get worse, I had had it at this point and said well that's odd I've been on it for 10yrs and I'm fine. He then told me to forget about mom and let my dad deal with it that I should distance myself and focus on work. He finishes by saying that's it. I leave and go back to the office shocked. Amy was to. I still get so angry by their reactions. I called me dad and told him what went on and he told me I needed to file a grievance not only for that but I have been passed over for promotions, I am still a level one and been working here 2 almost 3 yrs, Some girl who has been working here for a year, got promoted from level 1 to 2 in 6 months of working here. I have had nothing but 5 out of 5 on my reviews. I know fileing a grievance will make life worse than it is now but I don't think they should be allowed to treat people this way, it is a State Agency for petesakes!! Michelle __________________ Michelle, Lil Bear Dogster http://www.dogster.com/?237669, Moose (SDIT) Dogster http://www.dogster.com/?237662

03-14-2006, 06:46 AM	#2
Claire YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 484	They should not treat you this way, it is wrong. File that grevience.... You deserve to be treated so much better then that! Good luck on everything! -Claire __________________

03-14-2006, 06:52 AM	#3
rrosenberry & Bailey & Bella Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,164	Wow, who's business is it?? Why do they feel it is ok to pry into your personal, family matters? That is way out of line.. and to give you medical advise, Not sure what kind of work you do,if it's not in the medical field, it is WAY out of line.. can you go to someone above them and tell them exactly what you told us,and how it made you feel, How many were in the office when this happened,, if it was more than you and the two bosses? It is out of line again,.. wow, that is ridiculous, if you ask me.. and leave time and personal days are just that PERSONAL,and up to you how to use them. Let us know what happens... __________________ Rhonda, Bailey, Josie and my angel Bella Rue' "Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened." ~Anatole France~

03-14-2006, 07:05 AM	#4
nifer YT Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 257	^^ agreed. they shouldn't be noseying into your private health issues no matter what field you are in. they don't know you or your mom's detailed medical history so they have no basis to make any claim/hand out advice on. their handling of the situation seems very unprofessional. it's better to address this issue with your HR department and have it dealt with rather than just sitting in a job you despise. good luck. __________________ Daisy's Dogster: http://www.dogster.com/?252921

03-14-2006, 07:06 AM	#5
envrobear YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: OP, Fl Posts: 614	Nope not in the medical field. It was just me and the two bosses. This isn't the first time and I know when I file the grievance it will get worse. I can't go to anybody in the HR dept. cause they will just blab back to my bosses. Another girl in my section filed a grievance about race harassment and now my boss want look at her or talk to her and she is his sectary. They guy who I use to share an office with left because they found out he was looking for another job and stated accusing him of stealing digital cameras, taking the state car for personal use, and lying about millage. When I took over the asbestos (I was forced) the first thing they told me was well all the asbestos people go crazy in a few years, I guess they are trying to speed me up. They have already started saying that I am lying about sending out warning letters (of which I stood up for myself and informed my boss he sent it) he had he forgot...he says and I haven't even sent in the grievance. I will keep you posted __________________ Michelle, Lil Bear Dogster http://www.dogster.com/?237669, Moose (SDIT) Dogster http://www.dogster.com/?237662

03-14-2006, 09:30 AM	#6
LaLoca1 Livin' on a Prayer Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Jersey...Home to Bon Jovi and the Mafia Posts: 1,224	As someone who works in the Behavioral Health field, I hope that your mom is getting all the best care possible. I'm a Supervisor at my job, and I could NEVER imagine being as rude, ignorant, and insensitive as your bosses! Like many have said on here, they have NO RIGHT to demand to know the medical situation of your mother. Medical information privacy is covered by the HIPAA act. http://www.hipaa.org I cannot believe they pressured you to tell them what was going on. I understand that you feel uncomfortable going to HR about your boss. I have had some unpleasant circumstances with HR as well and the 'private' information did find its way back to my boss. Do you have an employee relations department at your job or something similar where you can go to filre a complaint against co-workers? Please keep us informed. Good luck! __________________ *Christina* Mami to Luca and Adrianna AWARENESS

03-14-2006, 09:56 AM	#7
porkieyorkie YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: ironton, ohio Posts: 262	"Holy Hippa Violation" I would go to the "Hippa police"(that is what we call the Hippa Pple at my hospital) and the Corp. office If I had to, but you need to go to someone about these jerks!

03-14-2006, 10:13 AM	#8
envrobear YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: OP, Fl Posts: 614	I work for the state so the closest thing to Corp. would be Tallahassee, which is where the grievance is to be filed. Thanks for your words. I know it's wrong but when you have outside people tell you it makes it all the more real. I just scared about repercussions as I said in my other post, I have thought about filling one before for another incident but decided against cause I just don't like this job nor see it as something I want to fight for, but I don't want them to continue treating people this way it is not right. __________________ Michelle, Lil Bear Dogster http://www.dogster.com/?237669, Moose (SDIT) Dogster http://www.dogster.com/?237662

03-14-2006, 10:30 AM	#9
nifer YT Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 257	they're violating the law and trampling over your rights, that should make it enough for you to want to stick up for yourself. being in a job that you don't really enjoy can make you feel nonchalant about things and it can be easy to dismiss things. they are totally in the wrong though, and they need to be made aware of that. maybe this is a sign that you need to get out of this job that you find no enjoyment in. no doubt you'll be able to find a company/organization that better suits you and can benefit from your expertise. __________________ Daisy's Dogster: http://www.dogster.com/?252921

03-14-2006, 01:07 PM	#10
sneri13 Luv My Spoiled Babies Donating Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 3,065	I agree, I would file a grievence report immediately. That is no way to be treated and they hav ABSOLUTLEY no rights nosing around in your personal business. __________________ Susan Mac Mellie & Manny Until we meet again at Rainbow Bridge

03-14-2006, 01:33 PM	#11
Jaspermom Yorkies Rock My World! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,721	How horrible for you!! As though it is not bad enough having a mom who is going through such a terrible time, you have to put up with these two jerks just to top it all off. I am so sorry for your situation, but there is no way I would just do nothing about it if it were me. They need to quit treating people this way, and the only way that will happen is if someone is brave enough to stand up and give it to them. I know you are going through a lot right now, so my thought is to document the conversation as closely as you can, sign and date it, and forward to the proper person at corporation. Keep a copy, and mail it with "return receipt requested". Let them know that due to your family situation you do not have the energy or the time to pursue a formal complaint, but you thought that someone in authority should know that you feel your rights have been violated by this conversation, and you may pursue it in the future. My 2 cents. Advice is always worth exactly what you pay for it... Absolutely nothing... but if it helps, I am glad! Good luck, dear, and keep us posted, OK? Hugs to you! You need as many of those as you can get. __________________ Glad Mom to Jasper, Wosie & Dreama, RIP sweet babies.