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02-06-2014, 09:05 AM | #1 |
Donating YT 1000 Club Member | Do you believe the Lost at Sea story? My eyes keep telling my brain that someone would look worse than this man does. Doctors Concerned For Health Of Castaway Jose Salvador Alvarenga - NBC News I know they say he was overweight when he was last seen and that the lack of fluids sometimes causes the skin tissue to swell but still... Just curious what everyone else thinks so let's hear it!
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02-06-2014, 09:37 AM | #2 |
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| I'd certainly expect someone alone at sea living for a year only on only seafood, birds and turtles and no fats or sugar in his sparse diet would be severely emaciated and certainly sunburned. But this guy didn't look like an emaciated man who was swollen due to dehydration/organ failure to me and he didn't look sunburned with those crusted, swollen lips and tongue and severely weather-burned face, bleached eyelashes, eyebrows and hair, etc. His arms and legs looked quite substantial. I couldn't see any bones showing through. IDK, he's not the picture I had of what a man would look like after being through the ordeal of floating on the ocean for a year in all kinds of weather with little food or water. And how does one catch a seabird from a boat? I didn't realize there were that many birds flying near enough the ocean's surface in the middle of the ocean very far from land for a weak man to catch one frequently enough he lists it as a food source. Sounds fishy so far.
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02-06-2014, 09:43 AM | #3 |
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02-06-2014, 09:50 AM | #4 |
Donating YT 1000 Club Member | Yes, V. He claims to have been adrift in the ocean for over a year.
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02-06-2014, 09:53 AM | #5 |
Donating YT 1000 Club Member | Jeanie, that is exactly my thoughts. Now that pics of the boat and enormous cooler have popped up I started thinking well, maybe.
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02-06-2014, 10:00 AM | #6 |
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| I haven't really paid that close attention to the few particulars of his story but the main gist is he has just landed after over a year alone adrift in a boat on the sea and living off fish, birds and turtles and drinking only whatever rainwater he could manage to collect. He just doesn't "look" like I would expect a castaway floating around starving for ready food resources and dying of thirst for over a year with no shelter from sun or wind or storms to look but maybe he's been in hospital for quite a while before they showed video of him. Hate to say it, but to me his appearance is actually more like someone who has been closeted away on a bender for a few weeks rather than a castaway floating in a boat for over a year.
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02-06-2014, 10:07 AM | #7 |
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| I believe it... |
02-06-2014, 10:09 AM | #8 |
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| Enormous cooler w/no ice? Huh - hadn't seen that but still, doesn't explain his lack of weathering or emaciation. He must be a fast dude to catch enough fish and birds(!) with his two hands for a year to not have lost a lot of weight! Wonder what condition his teeth are in?
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02-06-2014, 06:01 PM | #9 |
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| I believe it also. He is a fisherman. I'm sure he would do better than any of us out there. Well, actually he did. He and his friend went out to catch fish. He probably had equipment and knew how to do it. What I found strange was that he said his friend refused to eat what they caught (raw I am assuming) so he ended up dying. What fisherman wouldn't eat raw fish/seafood? Birds do fly far out to sea. Ever been on a cruise? Birds following us all the time.
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02-06-2014, 07:25 PM | #10 |
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| I know birds will follow a large ship since they can light on it and see it as a food source but coming down close enough to a guy drifting in a small boat and allowing him to catch them - that's hard to understand happening very often. But he's not emaciated - even if a fisherman could catch all those fish and turtles and birds, he'd lose a ton of weight rather than eat much of that raw, bloody mess - let alone be able to eat enough to keep up a moderate weight. And extreme dehydration very often produces nausea to the point one can't eat anything. Probably most people would be rail thin but this guy isn't wasted at all that I can see. That's my only big problem with his story - how in the world he kept from wasting on that calorie- restricted diet. I'll bet you put fishermen living comfortably in their homes on nothing but a fish/bird/turtle-only raw diet with no other caloric input and they would lose a ton of weight in just 3 months! Plus, no sunburn at all. He's not dark, dark brown from constant sun and wind all day for over a year and you'd think he'd look something like "tan Mom" in her heyday.
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02-06-2014, 07:55 PM | #11 |
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| Here's a little insight..... I fish a lot... In the past, some commercial. This last Fall was up to 55 miles off of Washington's coast in a 17 foot boat chasing albacore tuna for me. Birds are NO problem to catch when you have fishing gear that imitates bait fish.... plugs, lures, bits of fish would make it very easy to catch birds with hooks and line. NONE! No problem... Birds are a nuisance while fishing for tuna. This guy, if I understand the story correctly, is a commercial fisherman from his country. Central or South America somewhere. His boat looked like crap but that is how it is in some countries. I have no doubt he would have enough food, he was equipped to catch fish and easily could catch birds. It's the potable water that is my only question..... Did he have enough? Destillers are not hard to make, I could make one with plastic, a bucket, a cup and string.... just off the top of my head... the cup could even be made with plastic... On this story of survival at sea... I believe.... There are accounts of survival that go way back... |
02-06-2014, 08:02 PM | #12 |
Donating YT 1000 Club Member | But see, there's anotber issue I have with this story. Where the heck did his equipment go? What was be able to get the fish with? I dunno but it's one current event I'll be following.
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02-06-2014, 08:24 PM | #13 |
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| For tuna, I use rods/reels and hand lines. A sabinki rig for bait fish. All of which would be carefully stowed in the boat... water would be the biggest issue. IMO |
02-06-2014, 08:29 PM | #14 |
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| Not pun intended but something seems fishy
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02-06-2014, 08:36 PM | #15 |
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