Cat food question, anyone else concerned?

[Rescuemomma]

Just wondering what others thoughts are here and if they are concerned. While I've never fully trusted Diamond - I didn't realize Canidae had them making their food, or I would have made other choices. I've fed Felidae (cat food brand by Canidae) ever since proctor and gamble bought out Innova (I use to feed Innova and/or Evo depending on the cat), and every other high end food (Acana, Orijen, Blue, Fromm, Evangers, and I'm sure others I'm forgetting at the moment), where just to rich for my kitties, especially my now 19 year old.

In the past 6 months I've noticed my cats would vomit when I'd open a new bag and had to start mixing it with TOTW, and they've done great with that. Right now only dog foods are being recalled, but I'm very concerned! Is anyone else worried about their cat food? Now that I see Canidae products and TOTW on the recall list I'm worried it's only a matter of time before their cat foods start getting recalled, too!

[MikaTallulah]

Have you tried Honest Kitchen- No recalls- At least not that I could find. I can't keep Tallulah (cat) out of the dog bowls when I give it to them.

Have your tried different Blue Buffalo formulas? Mine eat the Indoor Health. It took me years to find on that agreed with Mika- Afraid to ever switch her. She is a little nutty but got to love her. They do have mature and grain free varieties too.

Have you tried all 4 of the FROMM?

I personally would not mess with the 19 year old cats diet. If she is doing well on it let it be unless made in the SC plant then I would try and order online from someplace else to make sure it is not from that plant- Just my opinion.

[Rescuemomma]

My 19 year old is obviously my biggest concern since at her age she'll be more prone to getting sick or going into renal failure if I get a bad bag of food just because of her age - she's very healthy (actually - probably the healthiest cat in the house!), but I am super careful about her diet because she is so old. But she won't eat near the other cats anyway - so it's easy to leave her diet alone and switch the others.

I have tried 3 of the 4 Fromm foods, none went well . I love the ingredients and quality - just didn't do well with my cats.

Absolutely positively will NOT feed Blue. Seen far to many quality control problems with it - I tried it ONCE, and while my vet and I can't prove it was the food - within a week one of my cats was in 24/7 ICU care at a specialty hospital extremely ill (never did get a proper diagnosis even after thousands of dollars in diagnostics and hospitalization - we put him on grain free wet food only and slowly he recovered), and another crashed really suddenly and didn't make it. My vet said he'd seen a few cats on Blue with similar symptoms and sudden onset illness of various degree. Blue failed to even acknowledge it was possible despite what the vet told me - and several vets I've mentioned my ordeal to since have confirmed in their practices! It crushed me to loose one of my babies like that - and with Blue never admitting it could be a possibility they lost any sliver of trust I had in them. Oddly enough when my Aiyana got really sick right before she was diagnosed with Addisons - the very first thing the internal medicine specialist (this was before the incident with my cats) asked me is if I ever fed Blue to her. I should have taken the hint there and stayed FAR away from it! I did for the dogs but for whatever stupid reason I tried it with my cats and firmly believe it not only cost me thousands in vet bills, but one of my sweet Oogie's life!

[Rescuemomma]

Originally Posted by MikaTallulah

Have you tried Honest Kitchen- No recalls- At least not that I could find. I can't keep Tallulah (cat) out of the dog bowls when I give it to.

Forgot to comment on this. Just bought a box of Honest Kitchen - only one of my cats will go near it, even if I mix it with their old food (they're use to getting wet food twice a day in addition to their dry), I'll keep trying - but so far cats aren't impressed with it - and unlike dogs, cats will quickly go into liver failure if they don't eat for more then 24-48 hrs, so letting them go hungry until the next meal just isn't a good idea with cats!

[MikaTallulah]

Originally Posted by Rescuemomma

My 19 year old is obviously my biggest concern since at her age she'll be more prone to getting sick or going into renal failure if I get a bad bag of food just because of her age - she's very healthy (actually - probably the healthiest cat in the house!), but I am super careful about her diet because she is so old. But she won't eat near the other cats anyway - so it's easy to leave her diet alone and switch the others.

I have tried 3 of the 4 Fromm foods, none went well . I love the ingredients and quality - just didn't do well with my cats.

Absolutely positively will NOT feed Blue. Seen far to many quality control problems with it - I tried it ONCE, and while my vet and I can't prove it was the food - within a week one of my cats was in 24/7 ICU care at a specialty hospital extremely ill (never did get a proper diagnosis even after thousands of dollars in diagnostics and hospitalization - we put him on grain free wet food only and slowly he recovered), and another crashed really suddenly and didn't make it. My vet said he'd seen a few cats on Blue with similar symptoms and sudden onset illness of various degree. Blue failed to even acknowledge it was possible despite what the vet told me - and several vets I've mentioned my ordeal to since have confirmed in their practices! It crushed me to loose one of my babies like that - and with Blue never admitting it could be a possibility they lost any sliver of trust I had in them. Oddly enough when my Aiyana got really sick right before she was diagnosed with Addisons - the very first thing the internal medicine specialist (this was before the incident with my cats) asked me is if I ever fed Blue to her. I should have taken the hint there and stayed FAR away from it! I did for the dogs but for whatever stupid reason I tried it with my cats and firmly believe it not only cost me thousands in vet bills, but one of my sweet Oogie's life!

That is not good at all. Now you have me worried

What about Honest Kitchen?

[MikaTallulah]

Originally Posted by Rescuemomma

Forgot to comment on this. Just bought a box of Honest Kitchen - only one of my cats will go near it, even if I mix it with their old food (they're use to getting wet food twice a day in addition to their dry), I'll keep trying - but so far cats aren't impressed with it - and unlike dogs, cats will quickly go into liver failure if they don't eat for more then 24-48 hrs, so letting them go hungry until the next meal just isn't a good idea with cats!

Rats, oh rats. Will they catch their own supper?

I would imagine due to her age raw would be out right?

[Rescuemomma]

Originally Posted by MikaTallulah

That is not good at all. Now you have me worried

What about Honest Kitchen?

Just commented in more detail above - I like it, cats didn't agree LOL. Well - one did, but he'll also eat out of the litter box if I don't keep it super clean - he's the reason I only use automatic cat boxes so there is never any poop in them LOL I don't count his vote on food LOL

[Rescuemomma]

Originally Posted by MikaTallulah

Rats, oh rats. Will they catch their own supper?

I would imagine due to her age raw would be out right?

For the 19 year old, yes, tried for a couple years every trick in the book - I'm lucky to get a little canned on her now and then, won't touch raw!

The 5 Sphynx are less picky - I have tried raw with them, my one that got so sick from Blue can't handle it. The rest - again, even with a slow intro and mixing very gradually with canned food - only 1 would eat it (I have 6 cats). And his vote don't count LOL. He'd probably eat rocks if I offered them!

[MikaTallulah]

Nature's Logic
Weruva - People Food for Pets - Cat Cuisine - Chicken and Beef
'Daily Cat' Air-Dried Cuisine » Your Site Name
Precise Pet Products
Vets Choice: Holisitic Health Extension Dry Dog Food

Long shot
Feline Base Formulas - RedMoon Custom Pet Food

[Rescuemomma]

Originally Posted by MikaTallulah

Nature's Logic
Weruva - People Food for Pets - Cat Cuisine - Chicken and Beef
'Daily Cat' Air-Dried Cuisine » Your Site Name
Precise Pet Products
Vets Choice: Holisitic Health Extension Dry Dog Food

Long shot
Feline Base Formulas - RedMoon Custom Pet Food

Hmmm, none of the top ones are an option - Nature's Logic looks like is only sold at one store here - and they also sell puppies so I refuse to buy anything there. Weruva is excellent food - but they don't make a ground/patte style. I've tried their foods and my cats don't like them - I'm sure it's a texture thing (cats are so much harder then dogs!). The other 2 their locators couldn't find anywhere near me.

That last one looks interesting, not thrilled about potato so high on the ingredient list, and a bit concerned the supplements may cause issues with my very sensitive cats, and it isn't letting me continue without them. Wish they'd send me free samples to even know if my cats would eat it! May order the small sample bag and give it a shot - I do like it's ordered and delivered at no extra cost to my house, so it doesn't matter if nobody here carries it! Have to see if I can find out anything good or bad about that company. Thanks for the idea!

[Rescuemomma]

Originally Posted by MikaTallulah

Rats, oh rats. Will they catch their own supper?

I would imagine due to her age raw would be out right?

Hahaha - just noticed this "catch their own" comment! Osiris would love to if I'd let him out, but that ain't happening LOL Hairless cats and hot sun don't mix - unless you like cats with skin cancer! But convince Osiris of that! He tries to get out every chance he gets!

[MikaTallulah]

Would you feed canned only? There are some canned cat food but they don't make kibbles
Petropics - Tiki Cat, Tiki Dog, Tiki Bird, Tiki FurBalls - For the Pets We Love

Kibble
FirstMate - pet foods
Halo, Purely for Pets – Natural Cat Food | halopets.com
Holistic All Natural Pet Food - Happy Tails
TLC Pet Food - FREE SHIPPING - TLC Whole Life Natural Pet Food

[Rescuemomma]

Originally Posted by MikaTallulah

Would you feed canned only? There are some canned cat food but they don't make kibbles
Petropics - Tiki Cat, Tiki Dog, Tiki Bird, Tiki FurBalls - For the Pets We Love

Kibble
FirstMate - pet foods
Halo, Purely for Pets – Natural Cat Food | halopets.com
Holistic All Natural Pet Food - Happy Tails
TLC Pet Food - FREE SHIPPING - TLC Whole Life Natural Pet Food

Tried canned only - My 19 year old it's a battle to get her to eat any canned food, it took me 4 years to get her to eat a little of it, but she won't eat enough to maintain her weight - I tried taking dry away before, and she kept loosing weight no matter how frequently I offered the wet, so I had to give up and give her dry back. She's very stubborn and set in her ways!

The biggest objection I have to canned only, is when I've tried it before, I had alot of problems with looser stools (even after several weeks on it), very smelly stool, and anal gland problems. A couple of them also just couldn't seem to manage weight well without the dry food, and got kind of skinny with wet food alone. I find my cats do better if they get some dry as well. I've tried Tiki Cat, it's great food but my cats don't like the texture of it. It's a more "homestyle" food. Had the same problem with Weruva and a couple other really good brands of wet food.

Just checked the others - Firstmate isn't available here, looks like Happy Tails is only available in Canada, the TLC food looks VERY high grain, and I have one cat that doesn't tolerate anything with Rosemary in it - At $50/bag, I'm really not impressed by the ingredients, especially with the cost of the food! I also can't find any information on who makes it, or if they make it themself. I've tried Halo before - Won't feed it because it's owner is a huge supporter of PETA. Don't take me wrong, I'm all for ethical treatment of animals, but won't knowingly support extremest groups, and by feeding Halo, I feel that's exactly what I'm doing. The cause as many problems as they solve - Turning loose caged animals, killing those they pick up, I won't support any organization that thinks those are good ideas!

[MikaTallulah]

Originally Posted by Rescuemomma

Tried canned only - My 19 year old it's a battle to get her to eat any canned food, it took me 4 years to get her to eat a little of it, but she won't eat enough to maintain her weight - I tried taking dry away before, and she kept loosing weight no matter how frequently I offered the wet, so I had to give up and give her dry back. She's very stubborn and set in her ways!

The biggest objection I have to canned only, is when I've tried it before, I had alot of problems with looser stools (even after several weeks on it), very smelly stool, and anal gland problems. A couple of them also just couldn't seem to manage weight well without the dry food, and got kind of skinny with wet food alone. I find my cats do better if they get some dry as well. I've tried Tiki Cat, it's great food but my cats don't like the texture of it. It's a more "homestyle" food. Had the same problem with Weruva and a couple other really good brands of wet food.

Just checked the others - Firstmate isn't available here, looks like Happy Tails is only available in Canada, the TLC food looks VERY high grain, and I have one cat that doesn't tolerate anything with Rosemary in it - At $50/bag, I'm really not impressed by the ingredients, especially with the cost of the food! I also can't find any information on who makes it, or if they make it themself. I've tried Halo before - Won't feed it because it's owner is a huge supporter of PETA. Don't take me wrong, I'm all for ethical treatment of animals, but won't knowingly support extremest groups, and by feeding Halo, I feel that's exactly what I'm doing. The cause as many problems as they solve - Turning loose caged animals, killing those they pick up, I won't support any organization that thinks those are good ideas!

I feed dry with wet as a treat.

It sounds like you need a kitty intervention. I give up.

At least for now

[chachi]

I feed Iaams and friskies may not be the best as far as ingredients but no recalls. It is always what I feed my cats for over 20 yrs now