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01-18-2012, 12:20 PM | #1 |
I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member | Anyone watch the TV show Hoarding? There are several TV programs about hoarding and animal hoarding. I think it would be great to talk about this because it affects so many people, especially women. Hoarding always occurs after a significant loss, and it’s not the person’s fault, they cannot help what they are doing and it’s only because they are suffering extreme depression and loss. This depression, in turn, keeps them from getting a real handle on the situation. Also, because have gotten use to the smells and inconvenience of their environment, they really don’t see it for what it is, but they do feel great shame and this prevents them from letting people be close to them. They use material possessions to build walls, in order, to protect themselves from being hurt. It’s kind of like collecting gone wild! They probably were shamed as children as a means of discipline and this isn’t a good way to discipline children because it produces feelings of worthlessness, yet we always want to return to a familiar feeling, especially after a significant loss, so we manage to produce that feeling in ourselves. Another thing, I learned from watching the program is that many hoarders are perfectionists! Hard to believe, but because they have such high standards and can’t get anything perfect, they have given up, and also, what a great way to shame themselves. I know I have a little problem with hoarding it’s very difficult for me to toss out something I think will be usable in the future, also it was very hard for me to get rid of my diseased parents’ things, even though I didn’t want them, there definitely was an emotion attached to certain items. I had to tell myself giving up the item wasn't giving up the memory. I think the program has actually helped me in dealing with my problem and has reduced the anxiety I experience when I have to get rid of something. The animal hoarding shows are especially hard to watch, the animals are seriously being abused and the people are in such denial. Of course, for a serious hoarder even having a couple of pets can be a bad idea. I saw a program the other night where the house was so filthy and there were cock roaches in the dog’s food, and poor dog seemed so sad when he wanted to eat, and just ran away from his food. Anyway, for anyone who suspects that they might have a problem, I hope you can watch the program and tackle your problem before it becomes overwhelming.
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01-18-2012, 12:32 PM | #2 |
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| My mom is obsessed with the hoarding shows. And those that I have watched are very depressing and pitiful. I cannot get angry at the person, since there's usually a trigger for the behavior. Speaking from experience, I know how panic-stricken you can feel when deemed that there is no control in your life. And in order to create some type of control, one latches on to something so drastic (I.e. hoarding, drugs, cutting, alcohol, etc.). With the animal hoarding I think it's different than any other type of abuse. With animal abuse (with regards to puppymills/byb/greeders) I think there is a malicious intent to cause harm all for the sake of money. Yet with animal hoarding, it's done with the hope of good intentions. If you listen to them, they usually say, "He needed me.." or "I wanted to give him a good home..." I know I could easily fall into the animal hoarding trap. When I go into the Humane Society, I want to rescue all of them. Especially since I consider Gizmo to be my therapy many times. Nancy, know that the positions from your family do not hold any memories, only you do. And spreading those memories doesn't require any physical object. Giving something up that was theirs only makes the person that receives it honored to have such a wonderful item with them. I know for a fact that if I kept something that was my grandma's that she deemed unimportant for me to have, that she's be crossing her arms and shaking her figer at me somewhere up in heaven! And I'm rambling...
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01-18-2012, 12:38 PM | #3 |
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| I watch the hoarder programs. My Mother in law is a hoarder and hers is because she gets a high to saving money and buying things. She did experience loss because a few years ago she divirced. She doesnt live in filth but she just has tons of stuff and shes got 2 garages at the apt she lives in filled with stuff when she really cant afford to pay extra for the garages. Shes not the type of person you can say anything to so her sons say nothing about it. But then she will try to bring the tremendous amounts of things she buys over to our house and the other Sons house which fires me up because we have space problems and I dont want the clutter or overabundance. Shes the type of person that instead of buying my daughter a pair of shoes she will bring over 2 garbage bags full of shoes and then I am livid. My Husband aND i HAVE GOTTEN IN MANY ARGUMENTS OVER THE YEARS BECAUSE OF THIS. aNYWAY SO NOW HE TELLS HER WHEN SHE DOES IT. Not all hoarders live in filth. It is likie those shows on saving money where those women fill up their garage or bedroom with things they have couponed for and saved alot of money getting. I really think it is dangerous to show programs like that on tv because it gives the impression it is okay and normal
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01-18-2012, 12:45 PM | #4 | |
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01-18-2012, 12:45 PM | #5 |
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| Omgosh! I love those hoarding shows!!! Never seen the animal ones...that would make me sick...but I love the people ones...where they have a TON of stuff. There was a show on in England called "How Clean Is Your House" with Kim & Aggie. I've watched every episode! I think I might need to slightly start hoarding...if that's possible I'm always getting rid of things and then months later thinking of a use for it
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01-18-2012, 12:47 PM | #6 | |
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I love Kim! She cracks me up! She's the blonde right??? Oh my goodness, loved, loved, loved that show!
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01-18-2012, 12:47 PM | #7 |
Banning Thread Dictator Donating Member | Funny you bring this up. There were two animal cruelty seizures in my area over the weekend. Over 100 animals, including 39 dogs, 40 parakeets and the rest cats were taken in after complaints. Our animal control is overrun. Some of the dogs were show dogs, and the original breeders are desperately trying to get them back. How they were sold to a hoarder, I don't know, but I admire the breeders' commitment to trying to rescue their dogs. The only positive side to this is the community outpouring of support. Local pet stores are soliciting donations and delivering food and supplies to animal control. Thousands of dollars have already been raised and donated in a real grass-roots effort.
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01-18-2012, 12:48 PM | #8 | |
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Sorry to hear about your MIL, that would drive me nuts.
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01-18-2012, 12:51 PM | #9 |
I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member | Yeah the animal hoarding shows are really sad. They always find dead animals in all the filth, like how do you not know that? Those programs I have a harder time understanding. They say they love their pets, but part of loving is taking care of something, not just petting it.
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01-18-2012, 12:52 PM | #10 | |
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I watch it with a notepad so I can write down the ingredients to all the cleaning concoctions they use. Although, their idea of a "little elbow grease" and mine are ALOT different...lol
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01-18-2012, 12:54 PM | #11 |
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| I love that show! Kim was always my favorite. Even though, being a family of Scots, Aggie was a fellow kilt wearer. But I love their natural cleaners. Like the tooth paste in order to clean the little nook and crannies in your fridge. Or the bicarbonate with water to get stains off of carpets and sofas... Ahh! Love them!
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01-18-2012, 01:01 PM | #12 | |
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I almost typed "Aggie is the short brown haired Scottish lady"...that sounds just like my Dad! Do you go to the local Highland festivals, like the St. Andrew's Society one at Greenmeade, or the one at Alma College? I had a tartan harness custom made for ZoE last summer for when we went the the St. Andrew's festival...sooo cute!
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01-18-2012, 01:04 PM | #13 | |
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Took home alot of medals for it, and now my knees are bottomed out. Still have all my kilts. Oh godness, I didn't know dogs were welcomed. Guess I know where I'm going next summer.
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01-18-2012, 01:29 PM | #14 |
Thor's Human Donating Member | Interesting that this came up. This Monday, I had Hoarders on as background noise, and I happened to notice that "1-800-GotJunk?" truck they always have. Well, I've been struggling to get rid of a bunch of furniture, etc, and having a devil of a time figuring out where it could go because some things are extremely heavy, broken, electronic, etc. A little lightbulb in my head went off, and I went to the site. They said that they will sort through your stuff and recycle appropriately, etc, and that they could do a same day visit. I signed up, and boom, my apartment is suddenly empty! I asked the guys about Hoarders, and they said that some of their coworkers have been on the show, but that for the trash pickup, most of it is staged - ie, they throw the same bag onto the truck 10 times to get the perfect shot. That kind of bummed me out, but I guess that's the reality of reality television. Anyway, my dad has some hoarding instincts, but I don't think I've inherited it. I can be lazy about getting rid of stuff, but I don't get confused about what is trash and what isn't.
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01-18-2012, 01:46 PM | #15 |
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| The animal hording is sad because alot of times people get caught into it after rescuing animals it just gets out of control. Also what is too many animals for one person may not bed for another. For example I have 5 cats and 2 dogs and that could be considered hoarding if you are unable to clean up after and take care of that many. I didnt choose to have that many but I had a cat have kittens. Anyway they are all spayed now so no more cats
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