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04-10-2010, 07:38 PM | #1 |
Donating YT 12K Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Council Bluffs Iowa
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| I am sorry to say......... I lost a lot of respect for a lot of people today. I don't always agree with everyone on YT, but I do respect most everyone, especially the long time breeders who have had a lot of experience and have a lot of knowledge, and the rescue people, who have helped and saved so many animal. I understand their frustration with people who ask questions and refuse to take advice. And with new breeders who did not do any research and make mistakes that could have been avoided. But does being an experienced breeder or an animal rescuer give them a license to be rude to someone who comes on with a legitimate problem, looking for a real answer. Does it give them the right to belittle someone who is less fortunate or disabled. Some of the comments made in this thread http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...ach-other.html were absolutely deplorable. They were totally discriminating and uncalled for and did nothing to solve the problem, nor were they informative for other people researching an issue, they were just down right MEAN. The only thing anyone would have learned from their remarks is to not come on here asking questions, especially if you are poor and disabled. I have been in a lot of heated debates on here, but never did I belittle someone for being poor. I was raised to be compassionate and to never think I was better than anyone else. To those people, all I have to say is "Shame on You". And you know who you are. |
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04-10-2010, 07:52 PM | #3 |
www.yorkierescue.com Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Las Vegas & Orange County
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| I read the whole thing, and I don't see where anyone flat out made fun of someone for being poor or disabled. (aside from the deleted posts which I did not see) What I remember being said is if you are able bodied enough to take care of a litter for pups, which I would imagine is difficult, I would never know bc I have never done it, that you would be able to work. Now finding a job, that's a different story, but being able to work, yes. I agree some parts did get nasty, but I think it was out of frustration of so many yters coming on here and asking for advice, and when they don't get the advice they wanted to hear start complaining everyone is rude. It happens over and over again. There was a lot of good advice given in that thread, esp in the beginning. I don't think I was one of those that "know who you are", but I did post in that thread, twice I think, and as someone who is kind of on the "outside" of the whole arguement I think the nastiness came from both sides. Now with that being said, that thread was closed for a reason, so I don't even know why I am responding to this...
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04-10-2010, 08:00 PM | #4 |
♥I Luv my BaileyBlue♥ Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Illinois
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| I've seen a lot of threads like this and am sorry to say sometimes am scared to ask a question or make a comment myself. This site is for helping and learning, not arguing. I didn't see the thread you're talking about but I can just imagine. :/ |
04-10-2010, 08:06 PM | #5 | |
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I completely agree!! I read it over and was appalled by some of the things said. The whole disabled thing hit home as my mom is disabled. If you aren't disabled you don't know what it is like so how dare anyone think they know what they can and can not do!! My mom helps take care of the pups but there is only so much she can do, I fill in the gaps. I see the struggles she goes through each day and it really is upsetting for people to think they know what disabled people are able to do!!
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04-10-2010, 08:12 PM | #6 | |
www.yorkierescue.com Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Las Vegas & Orange County
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I have had questionable questions before now and again. Instead of posting a thread that I could foresee as going wrong, instead I pm'd a member or two that I have great respect for and asked their opinion. Perhaps more people should do that. I think people should also refrain from using the phrase "if you don't have anything nice/helpful/constructive etc to say you shouldn't say anything at all" when they have been helpful like pages and pages back. Sorry for the rant, this was not directed at you chandracz just wanted to reply to the gist of what you said. Don't be afraid to ask a legit question if you have one. k I'm done I swear.
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04-10-2010, 08:34 PM | #7 | |
♥I Luv my BaileyBlue♥ Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Illinois
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| LOL everyone needs to rant now and then and I didn't take it personally. When it's really important, I will ask a question, but i've learned to keep a lot of things to myself... I am just one of those people that always try to post positively because I am a very sensitive person. I know how I take things sometimes, so I try hard to watch what I say so I don't unknowingly or not meaning to make someone else feel bad. I hope i'm making sense... I know I am in my mind Quote:
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04-10-2010, 08:54 PM | #8 |
Resident Yorkie Nut Donating YT 20K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas
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| I am going to say one thing and be done with this thread. I am not sure why some people seem to not be able to ever let things go. I for one had let it go when that thread was closed, but saw this thread and have to make just one response to it. I find it interesting that certain breeders seem to have an axe to grind with rescuers. Now...I know that is something you might disagree with, but I am putting it out there anyway. The only reason I can see it is because perhaps what we do makes some of them quite uncomfortable. Now....I am finished with that....and ask anyone who is able to read and comprehend the English language to view the following posts. I was accused of something last night that was DEAD wrong. I do not ever make fun of poor people and handicapped people. There are those of you who don't like my ways....that's fine. Perhaps if I bother you so much, you should ignore me. There are many of you who are ignored by me and more will be after tonight. This is all just so ridiculous that people want to malign others....acting all holier than thou. People who live in glass houses should not throw stones. Now...read the following IF you can comprehend it and I am not going to ask you if you see that I DID NOT make fun of the handicapped...I am going to TELL YOU that I did not. Someone artfully put a spin on it....just like Rush Limbaugh does on a daily basis. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/3078000-post241.html http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/3078007-post244.html Good night to all of you....wishing you a peaceful sleep. I am definitely going to have one.
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04-10-2010, 08:55 PM | #9 |
Donating YT 1000 Club Member | So, I JUST finished reading it. My Dad is in a wheelchair now because of blood clots in his lungs which caused him to have serious congestive heart failure. He cant walk 5 feet without running out of breath. I am very sensitive to his needs and I now realize that NOT all people can help their disability at all!!!!! I am totally disgusted by the comments to the OP about her disability. This is a YORKIE forum. No one here is God or Mother Teresa. It is not YOUR job to make accusations to ones character! You can get your point across without being total WITCHES! Very sad. Very childish. |
04-10-2010, 09:00 PM | #10 |
BANNED FOR NOT SENDING A GE GIFT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: beavercreek,ohio USA
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| I was debating on whether to reply to this post or not. I guess the "or not" got the best of me. I know which thread you are talking about and it did pinch quite a few nerves on YT. The comments that were made by "some" of the members, reminds me of taking a job that you love, or loving something in your life so deeply. By becoming a doctor for instance, your main goal in life is to help and heal others. You care and are concerned with their well being. You concern yourself with their health and their environment. You want others to know how deeply you care and support them. I feel that is how most of the members are on YT. They care so much about this breed, that they offer advice and when the advice is not taken to heart, it hurts. When you have been a member of something for a period of time and you hear the same questions over and over and nobody is listening, you get frustrated and that's when it turns nasty. I think when the day comes that I feel like I can't help others in a positive manner, then that should be the day when I place myself on mute. I know it is difficult because I commented on that thread; the first page. I then noticed how aggressive it became and chose not to post any further comments. I joined YT, because I am a first time yorkie owner and it was the best place to educate myself about this breed. I have learned so much and I am so grateful to those that have been generous with their time for getting me through certain stages in my furbabies young life. I am not afraid to ask questions. If someone chooses to answer them in a respectful manner, that's great. I can say I have never been disrespected. However, if someone chooses to be disrespectful, I choose to ignore it and move on. I have been in customer service for 30 years. If a customer was rude or nasty, I knew it wasn't because of me. They have something else in their life that has them upset. I hate to hear there are some members that are afraid to post something or ask a question. I know this is an open forum, with many personalities and it does take time to get to know one another. As for myself, I will help as many members as I am able to and will do so with respect. |
04-10-2010, 09:03 PM | #11 | |
♥I Luv my BaileyBlue♥ Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Illinois
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| Wow you have a very good way of looking at things/life! Good for you Quote:
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04-10-2010, 09:05 PM | #12 | |
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04-10-2010, 09:41 PM | #13 |
My Tiny Treasures Donating Member | Me too. YT has really changed I'm sad by this because I use to really enjoy spending so much of my time here. It used to be such pleasant place. I 100% support educating, but feel there is also a proper way of doing that. Placing others beneath you, surely can't be the way. |
04-10-2010, 09:51 PM | #14 | |
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04-10-2010, 11:48 PM | #15 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: TN
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| i have noticed a trend in my short time here.... every negative/heated post whether it was meant to be negative/heated or not consists of the same handfull of posters. that being said - some people thrive on drama. that will never change. it's sad, really. what people must be lacking in their lives to be so ugly to others! |
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