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03-27-2010, 08:40 PM | #1 |
BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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| Bringing Change to YT!!! Dear YT Members- My name is Mary and I know a lot of you know who I am because I was the OP of a thread yesterday that a ton of people commented on. First of all, I am new to YT (3 days old) and joined because I have 3 yorkies that I love, I wanted to make friends and gain knowledge as a yorkie owner. I got on for the first time and gave some information about my dogs which some members took issue with. I was in essence screamed at for over 3 hours by many people for saying that I loved my breeder and believed that she and my dogs were the best! I have since been told that according to Yorkie standards she is unethical because she doesn't breed steel blue and gold to steel blue and gold. Because I disagreed with these members (my opinion only) I was yelled at, called names, insulted and accused of joining YT to sell mix breed dogs to unsuspecting people. My issue with this situation is that people should be able to have differing opinions and still treat eachother with civility at the very least! This should be a positive place where anyone can come to gain information, feel welcomed, find friends, have differing opinions and be at differing stages of Yorkie knowledge. Yes, we all know that there are devious people out there who want to do things that hurt the breed but the majority of people coming on this site love the breed and their dogs. I have been told by a Senior member of YT that things WILL NOT and CANNOT change. That people will continue to speak their minds, be blunt and if they want flat out rude. I do not believe the majority of people on YT are like this but the negative ones are speaking the loudest at this point and running the show! I was almost run out of YT the other day because of what was said to me but because of a few kind and supportive members who encouraged me through that moment I decided to not only stay but try and make things better. I truly believe that it is possible to uphold the yorkie standards, the code of ethics, make the breed better, weed out the devious and evil people with bad intentions AND still be nice, courteous and civil at the same time. I do not think that is asking for the moon! I am honestly wondering if anyone else would like to join me in this endeavor? And that would be to welcome with open arms new people who want to learn about yorkies and make new friends, to uphold the breed and it's standards but to care first and foremost about attracting, welcoming and educating people because without them the breed will suffer. To refuse to tolerate rudeness, judgement without proof, meaness, and ganging up on people who don't deserve it! I was told that the way things are done will NEVER change and I don't agree with that! I believe that ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE and ANYTHING CAN CHANGE if enough of us stand together to make it better!! If enough of us pledge to be POSITIVE, the people who are blunt, rude, mean, judgemental and the ones who refuse to change will be a minority!! I was told that "if being mean keeps one devious person with bad intentions out then it's worth the ones who leave because of it!" Why does it have to be one or the other? I believe devious people always show their true colors very quickly. We don't need to throw the baby out with the bath water! I'm wondering how many other good intentioned people have endured similar episodes and left because of it? I know I am new to YT and don't know everything there is to know about the site or the breed but I know right from wrong, positive from negative! And I believe we can do better!! Is there anyone else who would be willing to help me make a change?? IT IS POSSIBLE!!!!!! Thanks for reading! Mary |
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03-27-2010, 08:47 PM | #2 |
YT Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: w.leisenring pa usa
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| I posted a thread, about my yorkiechon puppy pics,,its still up, take a look at the response I got, so I feel your pain. and all I was doing was sharingnsome cute pictures,,I thought about calling it quits for a minute too, cus that was not the first time I got ripped apart on here for something.
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03-27-2010, 09:20 PM | #3 |
Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: western KS
Posts: 1,320
| I always try to stay positive I do have my opinions like everybody does, a lot of times people express them differenty and some people get hurt. I don't like to see when people go overboard and hurt another. I did a small welcome in your "heated" thread but I chose to stay out of the "heated topic" I am glad that you have decided to stick around. It will take some time and then we figure out the different personalities of people. I try to voice my opinion but, keep it out of heated topics(unless there is physical harm involving someone or their pet) I really do like a lot of what I have learned from being here (I almost left myself before) I am glad that I chose to stay, I have made some good friends here. Sorry for the babble, I do that sometimes, I am VERY HAPPY that you are still here. |
03-27-2010, 09:21 PM | #4 |
YT 500 Club Member | its very much like high school here if your not part of the " in crowd " your voice is not heard and your opinion dosent matter many of us ( myself included ) just will go on being clueless about some things because some YT'ers will make you feel stupid and like an unfit parent there are some wonderful members you can ask anything and be delivered a wealth of knowledge and thank you to them...
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03-27-2010, 09:37 PM | #5 |
BANNED FOR NOT SENDING A GE GIFT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: beavercreek,ohio USA
Posts: 685
| I feel bad for some of the comments you received on your previous post. Here you are, a new member, wanting to show off your babies and some members made it almost impossible for you to continue. I am glad you are not giving up. Even though there are a lot of passionate members, I think the way the posts were written is unacceptable. It feels like high school all over again and you have been ganged up on. Yes, we love this breed and want only the best owners and we want those owners to be knowledgeable. None of us have the right to judge one another. As long as your babies are healthy and happy, then you are in good shape. If you have any questions or comments, feel free to post them. There are so many other members that would be willing to give honest opinions and post the comments in a positive manner. Don't give up, because YT is the best forum for the breed we love so much. |
03-27-2010, 09:54 PM | #6 |
Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Maui, Hawaii
Posts: 7,740
| Hi Mary, Welcome to Yorkie Talk. I'm sorry you had a bad experience on your first day here, and hope it will be more pleasant in the days to come. Over 60,000 members have joined this forum, so it is inevitable that not every one will see things the same way. However, it is an amazing site with a huge wealth of information (sometimes more than ya wanna know ), and for the most part a really fun place for Yorkie lovers to share stories, pictures, friendship and learn. As you spend a bit more time exploring different threads, you will get a better feel for it all, and hopefully come to appreciate the best that YorkieTalk has to offer. In these days of internet communication, we all have to be mindful of how we come across. It's easy to write something in a non-personal way, that you would never "say" to someone face to face. I'm sorry your first thread went nuts, but I do hope you are here to stay for a while. I'd love to hear more about your adorable fur-babies. They do look like properly spoiled pups, and it is obvious how much you love them. That's what we really love to hear around here!
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03-27-2010, 10:06 PM | #7 |
Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Alabama
Posts: 17,674
| Oldies but Goodies I am one of the Oldies -- I have been a member of YorkieTalk since the middle of 2004 in fact I was the 194th member to join. I can tell you from my lenghty tenure here at YorkieTalk that due to the hard work and impartial and fair rulings by our Administrators and hard working Moderators that things stay pretty much the same. While we may not always agree with their rulings, they have the best interests of YorkieTalk in mind. If you truly want to make a positive impact on YT then take some time to familarize yourself with the posting rules and then get to know the members, their posting styles, likes and dislikes. Considering the vast number of diversified members here at YT, it stands to reason that if you start a new thread or post an opinion, there are going to be those who support you and those who oppose you. My motto is "If I don't want my YT family to disagree with me, the best thing I can do is not post ". There will always be those who agree and those who disagree, but remember each member of YorkieTalk has the right to post their opinion as long as their post is within the YorkieTalk Posting Rules. If you find posts that are offensive or that violate the posting rules, then the apporpriate action is to report the post to the Admin/Moderators so that they can evaluate the post to determine whether or not it is appropriate. One last observation - posting in BOLDED ALL CAPS is considered yelling and is offensive - and the over use of bolded all caps is in direct violation of posting rules. |
03-27-2010, 10:16 PM | #8 |
YT 2000 Club Member | Hello Mary, It is refreshing to see someone one here that will not put up with rudeness. I have seen others "attempt" to put a stop to it to no avail, but who knows, it might work. There have been many people here that have tried to seek information regarding sick pets, etc and have received remarks like "I can't believe you don't know about nutri-cal, looks like you haven't done your homework" or the ones that don't have a vet within a 100 miles and they get on here for help and they keep getting "I can't believe you won't take your poor dog to the vet, don't you realize it needs help now" when the pup is hypogycemic. It is sad. Like you, and so many others, I came here li for the love of the breed, to learn as much as I can and to make friends with people that love the breed. I don't want to ask a question only to get shot down or made fun of. I truly want to learn as much as I can and who better to learn from then fellow yorkie lovers that have "already been there, done that". I won't say I haven't learned a lot here, because I have, however the rude remarks that continue are totally uncalled for and meaningless. I know all of us here love the breed but I do believe we can learn from one another in a civil adult manner, sharing ones education so that our precious little yorkies will get the very best care possible, because when the day is done I believe that is all we really want, the very best for the breed. Welcome to Yorkie Talk!
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03-27-2010, 11:06 PM | #10 | |
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03-27-2010, 11:31 PM | #11 |
Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North Dakota
Posts: 336
| I'm sorry that you were treated so unkindly, it seems like it is always the same ones doing the bashing and name calling and no matter what group you go to there are always afew like that. What you were put through is the main reason that I very seldom come here anymore, I see no reason to purposely try to hurt people just because the don't see things your way... Sure I have disagreed with afew that come on just to cause a problem and I might not be the big time poster that some here are, but I still believe in giving everyone a chance.
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03-28-2010, 12:08 AM | #12 |
Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Maryland
Posts: 2,218
| I am glad that you have decided 2 stick around YT!
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03-28-2010, 04:13 AM | #13 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Arkansas, USA
Posts: 96
| I am also fairly new to YT, and have also debated on whether or not to stick around. The reason is because I am so scared to post anything because I'm afraid of the responses I might get! I have to be so careful with everything I say! I never want to be attacked. I haven't been so far, but I feel that is because I have been careful. I don't do everything by the book, but heaven forbid I admit that here. Anyway, there is such a wealth of information on this site, and also members here who do care so much that it is worth staying around. Thank you for voicing your opinion, and I'm sorry about the responses you got on your post.
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03-28-2010, 04:26 AM | #14 |
Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, Texas USA
Posts: 2,473
| My thoughts are, I listen and weigh, all the information, comments, and advice, and form my own opinions...I appreciate all the information, I get, but I don't, necessarily, take heed of it all, if it doesn't line up w/my "gut" feeling...At the end of the day, you do what you have to do, and you let others do what they have to do...I've found it is a much more congenial place to be, if you don't try to impose your beliefs on someone else, and don't allow others to impose theirs, on you, unless you have genuinely received enough information to change a belief...Not responding to differing, or argumentative opinions is your best approach...This is a wonderful place to gather lots of information, so you can decide what's best for you and your baby...Welcome to YT... |
03-28-2010, 04:40 AM | #15 |
I ♥ my Furheathens Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: VAN ALSTYNE
Posts: 8,226
| I have only ever been talked down to in one thread and its because I popped Sam. I felt horrible so I came on here posting, feeling bad about what I did. Now the people that I talk with a lot knew that Sam being popped was just a slight pop that didnt even phase him but other, well they were ready to call Animal Cops on me for abuse. There were some pretty rude and hurtful comments but thats what you get when there are so many people. Everyone has an opinion and their entitled to it. Im still here, plan to be here until they turn out the lights or tell me I gotta go home. Welcome to YT.
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