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10-16-2009, 10:13 AM | #1 |
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| Anyone on Cholestrol meds? I been fighting going on these for years. I do everything right. I am walker, do not smoke, eat faily well, no beef, fatty foods, cake,etc unless I'm at a party. My HDL keep going up! I lost 20lbs this past year trying my best to be good and I just got my results back and the HDL went up again! I give up. She wants to put me on Crestor. I just read the side effects and no way am I going on this! I need some input here as I'm flipping out because I know I can't keep ignoring this problem. I guess I just make it myself! Anyone with some comforting suggestions? |
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10-16-2009, 10:35 AM | #2 |
Donating YT 30K Club Member | Sounds like you are doing everything you can and it is just genetic. My husband has been on crestor for years and so side effects. Although I don't think I read what they would be, maybe I should do that. I think their are some natural remedies you could try.
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10-16-2009, 10:41 AM | #3 | |
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That's comforting to know Patti. I tried Fish Oil for the past yr and nothing! Very frustrating. thanks | |
10-16-2009, 11:00 AM | #4 |
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| MY husband has been on crestor for like 4+ years and no side effects. His cholesterol problem is hereditary. The only drawback to being on meds is you have to go twice a year for blood work.
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10-16-2009, 11:06 AM | #5 |
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10-16-2009, 11:41 AM | #6 |
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| This is a must have book. Barnes & Noble.com - Image Viewer: The Schwarzbein Principle, by Diana Schwarzbein, Paperback She's a Endocrinologist in Santa Barbara. In this book she has a chapter on cholesterol levels and how not all HDL, LDL, VLOL levels are the same for everyone. It's an amazing book on a lot of other things too, but you really should read this. OK, I MUST post this information that is a section of the chapter on cholesterol: You could eat too many carbohydrates, drink alcohol, smoke tobacco, ingest artificial sweeteners, eat damaged fats, drink caffeinated beverages or be too stressed, and your cholesterol panel could look perfectly normal for the time being. But these bad habits destroy your body on a cellular level, and this destruction cannot be detected immediately by a blood test. In the meantime, while your blood tests look normal, your body is making cholesterol and triglycerides at a very high rate, because all of these lifestyle habits raise insulin levels. Remember that the liver converts sugar into fats when insulin levels are elevated. Your body can then store or use these fats for energy; therefor, the blood levels do not immediately change. Abnormal cholesterol panels are a late indicator of abnormal cholesterol metabolism. The damage being done on a cellular level from overconsumption of carbohydrates or use of stimulants has to occur for years before an abnormality will show up on a blood panel. That is true even if the damage is substantial. The following two examples show hypothetical ideals of HDL, LDL, and VLDL lipoproteins. EXAMPLE ONE: Which cholesterol panel do you think is better? Panel 1: Total cholesterol 240 = HDL 80 + LDL 140 + VLDL 20 Panel 2: Total cholesterol 240 + HDL 40 + LDL 170 + VLDL 30 When evaluating the three lipoproteins, higher HDLs and lower VLDLs are desirable. By following a healthy lifestyle, HDLs increase and VLDLs decrease. So Panel 1 is much better than Panel 2. But note that the sum of the lipoproteins of each panel both arrive at the same total of 240. Hence total cholesterol levels are meaningless. EXAMPLE TWO: Which cholesterol panel do you think is better? Panel 1: Total cholesterol 240 + HDL 60 + LDL 160 + VLDL 20 Tg = 200 Panel 2: Total cholesterol 180 = HDL 60 + LDL 80 + VLDL 40 Tg= 200 In comparing these two cholesterol panels, you want the VLDLs and the triglycerides to be lower even if this means accepting higher total cholesterol and LDL levels. Therefore Panel 1 is the better panel. The last example illustrates why cholesterol panels do not show your risk for heart disease. Furthermore, it demonstrates how easy it is to misinterpret cholesterol profiles. EXAMPLE THREE: This example is from two different people. Which one has the lower risk for a heart attack? Person 1: Total cholesterol 180 = HDL 60 + LDL 100 + VLDL 20 Person 2: Total cholesterol 180 = HDL 60 + LDL 100 + VLDL 20 Without knowing anything about these people's eating and lifestyle habits, there is no way to determine their individual risks or which one of them has the higher risk of a heart attack. Their doctors would likely tell both of them that they were low risk. But you now know that the risk of heart attack has nothing to do with cholesterol numbers but everything to do with where you are on the accelerated metabolic aging track, which is dictated by eating and lifestyle habits. She writes more on this subject. Again, a must have book!
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10-16-2009, 12:15 PM | #7 |
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| That was very interesting. I will look into it. I so wish the doctor would talk about it instead of giving meds! Thank you for your info. |
10-16-2009, 12:17 PM | #8 |
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| Mine is a problem right now, well the past two years, and I'm on Zocor. It's because of my kidneys failing, and they can't filter it, and blah blah blah. lol Soooo it went up to like 600...! And I'm only 17! But Zocor works for me, it's down to like 300 or something now. haha That's still not good, but it's great considering the circumstances.
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10-16-2009, 12:26 PM | #9 | |
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How awful to go through something like that at such a young age. I am glad the Zocor is working for you. Think positive sweety. You sound like a very strong young lady. Good for you. I hope it continues to improve. | |
10-16-2009, 12:42 PM | #10 |
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| Yes, it is hereditary and stress can also add to it. My doctor told me that my number was really high and I told her that so much was going on with me and that my diet was indeed a factor. She gave me six months and if it didn't come down, she was going to put me on something. I hightailed it and got my diet back on track (not loosing weight but eating properly) and watched for the triggers of stress. Still under a lot of stress but managing it better. You need to take time for yourself and regroup...at least I've learned that. I had a girlfriend who was doing the fish oil and something else. I'll have to ask her and get back with you. She swore by it. It was another vitamin type. I'll check with her and let you know.
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10-16-2009, 12:46 PM | #11 |
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| Omega 3 fatty acids?! I bet that's it.
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10-16-2009, 02:05 PM | #12 |
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| This is what I would do if I were in your situation. I would switch to a vegan diet for 30 days and see if your situation improves. Even if you don't eat beef, other animal products (including dairy) are high in cholesterol. I personally would not take the cholesterol medicine. I suggest that you do a LOT of research before agreeing to that. Just my 2 cents. I wish you the very best!
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10-16-2009, 04:47 PM | #13 |
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| you WANT your HDL to go up! That's the good cholesterol. It is recommended that you try to have at least a 60, but the higher the better for HDL. The best way to raise your HDL is through aerobic exercise. Being a woman helps too. Red wine can help, and 3 fish oils a day can't hurt! LDL is the bad one. Maybe you don't have a problem after all! |
10-16-2009, 06:08 PM | #14 |
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| I have been on Vytorin for about a year now. I haven't had any side effects. Good luck.
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10-16-2009, 07:25 PM | #15 |
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| Ihave been on captoril for a few years for high cholestorol and I dont smoke either, am also on lipitor for high blood pressure along with many other pills. I hate being 53. |
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