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Old 01-21-2009, 01:49 PM   #1
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Kind of a long story so stick with me please! I want my YT friends' advice.
My dad hurt his back last year and is now going to a chyropracter. He's gotten to know the assistant over the past year and a few months ago she got a s**t-tzu. She told my dad about it and of course he told her that I love dogs! And that I'm looking for one of my own. She's been wanting to talk to me for weeks now and she's determined to help me find my dog. I finally spoke to her today over the phone. She told me she could get me a yorkie puppy for less than $500. I was amazed and I asked her "HOW???"
Her response, "I know a lady that I see often and she's always selling puppies at the bank. She has a lot to choose from, like s**t-tzus, maltese, and sometimes she has yorkies. If not her then I know some other guy that sometimes has them."
What's my obvious response...."Where does she get all these dogs from????"
Her response "Oh, I think she breeds them."
Automatically I go into educate-mode. But there's a problem, some of the stuff I want to tell her about irresponsible breeders gets lost in translation. I'm trying to tell her in spanish (I'm fluent but clumsy sometimes in my translations) about the possible problems and how I don't want to give them business. But I think I came across as a snob.
Did I do, or what I attempted to do the right thing??? Or will she now tell my dad what a snob his daughter is and say that I'm ungrateful for not wanting to accept her help? I don't think I approached it correctly!
sorry if I misspelled some things!
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Old 01-22-2009, 12:48 AM   #2
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Don't worry about it, you did the right thing! Explain to your dad what happened and why you don't want to take the "recomendation". Ask him to try to explain at his next appointment and take comfort in the fact that you are not supporting this "greeder"!!!
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I think you did the best thing the right pup will come along
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Kind of a long story so stick with me please! I want my YT friends' advice.
My dad hurt his back last year and is now going to a chyropracter. He's gotten to know the assistant over the past year and a few months ago she got a s**t-tzu. She told my dad about it and of course he told her that I love dogs! And that I'm looking for one of my own. She's been wanting to talk to me for weeks now and she's determined to help me find my dog. I finally spoke to her today over the phone. She told me she could get me a yorkie puppy for less than $500. I was amazed and I asked her "HOW???"
Her response, "I know a lady that I see often and she's always selling puppies at the bank. She has a lot to choose from, like s**t-tzus, maltese, and sometimes she has yorkies. If not her then I know some other guy that sometimes has them."
What's my obvious response...."Where does she get all these dogs from????"
Her response "Oh, I think she breeds them."
Automatically I go into educate-mode. But there's a problem, some of the stuff I want to tell her about irresponsible breeders gets lost in translation. I'm trying to tell her in spanish (I'm fluent but clumsy sometimes in my translations) about the possible problems and how I don't want to give them business. But I think I came across as a snob.
Did I do, or what I attempted to do the right thing??? Or will she now tell my dad what a snob his daughter is and say that I'm ungrateful for not wanting to accept her help? I don't think I approached it correctly!
sorry if I misspelled some things!
A lot of these breeders that have a lot of puppies all the time are actually puppy brokers. I was looking for a puppy a while ago. I found an ad that advertised yorkies and another breed that acted like they were raising them as breeders. I called and spoke to a man that answered the phone and he told me the puppies were coming from a breeder in Missouri! There are a lot of people that purchase from mills and then resell them at a huge profit. Most likely what this woman is doing. RUN!!!!!! You will find your baby please just try to be patient.

If she says anything to your dad having him tell her that you have decided to rescue instead.
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At $500.00 a pop (pup?) I don't think she is a broker. I do believe she runs a big ol puppy mill though.
Stay away and if your father doesn't understand after you explain your feelings then show him puppy mill footage from the Internet. that should convince anyone to stay away from them. He can then, in turn, explain it to this poor misguided woman.
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At $500.00 a pop (pup?) I don't think she is a broker. I do believe she runs a big ol puppy mill though.
Stay away and if your father doesn't understand after you explain your feelings then show him puppy mill footage from the Internet. that should convince anyone to stay away from them. He can then, in turn, explain it to this poor misguided woman.
I see you are from Chicago too. There is an ad on Kijjii that runs all the time for Yorkie and and Sh*ipoos that claims they are a family business. Shows pictures of his daughter and how she is also involved in their business. They have a website and everything to make it look like they are a small breeder and live in the southern burbs. I called because I was curious and he told me that they go to Missouiri about once a month and bring them back from a very nice woman who breeds. Their puppies were just a little more I think $600-700 each. I really started to quiz him and he told me that there are quite a few people in this area that do this on a regular basis. There is also the meet you in the hotel parking lot with pictures of 15 dogs on a hotel bed and I'll be in your area. It makes me sick this is allowed.
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I just wanted to clarify, my biggest concern is that she took it the wrong way. I know better than to even consider purchasing a puppy from a lady like that. I'm concerned that the chiropracter's assistant will think I'm a big snob and will treat my dad badly. I am trying to rescue though. I'm in no hurry to find him. (but if my perfect pup shows up today, YAY!!!)
I did call my dad soon after I posted here and I explained to him what happened. He assured me that I speak perfect spanish, and the information was good and to the point, nothing got lost in translation. If she then took it the wrong way it's really her loss, and maybe one day if (god forbid) her furbaby gets sick she'll understand the message. Oh well, a slip of the tongue on my part for automatically going into educate-mode. I hope she still treats my dad and my mom, with respect, since I know not everyone welcomes the information about BYB and puppymills with open arms.

Just in case I ever encounter the same situation, is there a nice way of educating someone?
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At $500.00 a pop (pup?) I don't think she is a broker. I do believe she runs a big ol puppy mill though.
Stay away and if your father doesn't understand after you explain your feelings then show him puppy mill footage from the Internet. that should convince anyone to stay away from them. He can then, in turn, explain it to this poor misguided woman.
I told my dad that this sounded suspicious. I asked him, how can one person take proper care of a few litters of 3 or 4 different kinds of breeds all at the same time? And that's not including the adults she has to have to "make" puppies. It breaks my heart to think the condition these dogs are in when they're in her "care". I got a little teary eyed just thinking about it.
And my dad does understand and he agrees that we should stay away from these kinds of breeders. (consider it a victory!) Of course I showed him how bad things could get, but this was a while ago, I think sometime after I joined YT.
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