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01-18-2009, 03:09 PM | #1 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: central new york
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| John Travolta's Son Jett I keep reading these really stupid things about how they are Scientology followers....how they don't believe in med's.....I have had quite alot of dealings with med's with my daughter, and nothing works forever ! They have had her on so many different things trying to stabilize her bi-polar. Dr.'s are not GOD!!!!! It's ok to question them, espically when it comes to our kids. Parents are not stupid people, we know our children. My daughter is 25 and after getting guardianship because of just that, so dr's can't just give her something, I still question them. I use to be afraid to but not anymore. I think saying that the Travolta's were not giving him his med's because of their religious belief's is just plain stupid ! If the med dosn't work then you have to stop taking it and take other steps. They raised this child for 16 years, I think they know what's best. Sometimes you have to give the body a break from all the drugs and see what it will do on it's own. We are always looking for that magic pill. Sorry I had to vent......now I feel better. |
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01-18-2009, 03:40 PM | #2 |
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| I am BiPolar too, and my Dr. will tell me that there's no set rules in treating the disease. I can't tell you how many different types of meds I've tried. Now I search through WebMd whenever they give me a new med to make sure it's safe. I also go to a pain Dr., and we received a letter from the plan we use for meds saying he was giving us meds that didn't go together. It's sad, but you can't just trust your Doctors opinions. You have to be you own self advocate.
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01-18-2009, 04:40 PM | #3 |
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| I personally have my own feelings about that specific "religion". However, I believe americans are WAYYY too over medicated, especially children. I believe that way too many people are labled bi-polar and depressed, and way too many kids are labeled adhd and autistic. I believe big pharm has its own agenda, and its succeeding. And that has nothing to do with religion. Don't believe me? Just watch one of those depression commercials with that sad little ball thing. Or one of those "depression hurts" commercials. They make every single person who sees it think "thats ME!". They basically sell you their product right there on the spot. But thats just a little bit of how I feel about it
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01-18-2009, 04:42 PM | #4 |
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01-18-2009, 05:01 PM | #5 | |
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01-18-2009, 06:06 PM | #6 |
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| Why do I even look in threads like this where I feel the need to defend myself? I am bipolar and if you haven't been through it, then please don't tell people to just "suck it up". No one knows what it's like unless you've been through it and it's very hurtful and potentially damaging to someone who has it.
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01-18-2009, 07:39 PM | #7 |
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| I dont agree with the no meds rule of that religion. Some meds are lifesavers! Like antibiotics. I had pnemonia two years ago and would have died without them. I also have GAD (Generalized Anxiety Disorder) which is a real problem for me, and take meds that work pretty good to control it.
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01-18-2009, 11:19 PM | #8 |
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| whatever the cause, I feel terrible for the family! bless them
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01-19-2009, 12:01 AM | #9 |
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| I dont know anything about scientology, except that it is based on a sci-fi book/writer. I think that people have gotten a really bad impression about scientology because of Tom Cruise and his antics on the TV with Matt Lourer(sp) and the horrible, condescending things he said about post partum depression to Brooke Shields. So then alot of people think because of Toms wacko ideas then the Travolta's must be just as wacko because they are both into scientology. I do think that the public/children are over-medicated and it seems to be used as an "easy way out" approach to dealing with the underlying issue. Then there are the people that truely need this medication just to function. ((sigh))
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01-19-2009, 01:21 AM | #10 | |
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01-19-2009, 04:22 AM | #11 | |
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I lost 2 people that were the 2 closest people ever to me growing up, aside from my mother, because of pharmacuticals, just months apart from eachother. I have a son with Kabuki Syndrome that is "autistic" that is not medicated that is the top reader in his class, and excels in everything he puts his mind to. So yeah, I don't buy what big pharm is selling. Do we use antibiotics and ibuprofen? Sure, but I do try to manage otherwise first. I believe that both me and my son would not be nearly as successful as we are today if I would have chosen to do things differently. Sometimes I find myself afraid of what this country is going to turn into when everyone is in a haze from all of the pills that are being put into them. Seems they have a pill for just about anything that might bother you anymore, with a list of side effects that far outweigh the benefits of the med. It is truely amazing what God can heal in a person, and what He has put on this earth to help us naturally.
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01-19-2009, 05:02 AM | #12 |
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| autism or autistic "traits" "I said all those things are over diagnosed, and they are." I don't mean to offend but this struck a nerve with me. Because of over diagnosing, autism has become this HUGE spectrum disorder. I am a Mom to a son with "classic" autism. There are specific criteria to get the diagnosis. Autism is autism. However, there are genetic conditions that may cause "autistic traits" to appear. Therefore, we now have pdd, pdd-nos, aspergers etc and the list goes on. |
01-19-2009, 06:42 AM | #13 |
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| My understanding from reading up on the religon is they don't believe in mental disorders,that mental disorders are a form of non control of the mind and body. Now they do believe in meds for health reasons. So yeah I do believe that Jett was getting sezuire meds and they failed. People who have sezuires know this very well, that sometimes the mix of drugs you had been using stop working. ty |
01-19-2009, 06:52 AM | #14 | |
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01-19-2009, 06:58 AM | #15 |
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| I have to agree that we as a society are over medicating ourselves......I never gave it a thought about medications until one day I came across an article on the FDA and the Pharmaceutical companies....I was intrigued, shocked, angry and frightened so I started googling anything that would include the words "FDA"... ""corruption" .... "Big Pharma".... "recalled medications".... " FDA drug approval" .... " adverse reactions".... " physicians ties to drug companies"...etc. etc. and the information was staggering!.... I will never take a medication without researching the side effects and data concerning recalls, adverse reactions, and how long it has been on the market, and I will research the condition that I may have and see if there is an alternative treatment that does not involve synthetic medications...Doctors generally are not trained in diet or (lack of) vitamins and minerals which could be a contributor to a condition. Their training is in disease and medications.... I also came across several articles that link a possibility that depression ADHD and a lack of omega 3's in the diet as being a plausible treatment...If that is that case then many children are being drugged unnecessarily The new shift is on our pets, that is an untapped segment for selling more pharmaceuticals to.. The pharmaceutical companies are known for making up diseases and disorders so they can sell more medications....People really have to get educated on what is happening in this business, and yes it is a business and a huge one at that..... I never go to a site that is run by the government for info and I never get drug info from a site that advertises drugs. I try and get info from sites that fight for consumer rights. These articles are interesting..... Psychiatry and disease mongering: Road Rage Disorder is latest spontaneously "discovered" disease Pharmaceutical Industry and FDA Endangering Your Health for Profit
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