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eensor · 08-05-2005, 05:23 PM

Did anyone else see Judge Roberts' precious children on tv when he was nominated to the Supreme Court? I made the comment to my husband about how cute they looked in their dress up clothes and how that is exactly like I would dress mine if they were going to the White House.

Well....the left-wing, Bush-hating, hypocritical Washington Post criticized the clothes the Roberts children were wearing!!!!! I guess they should be wearing jeans and jellies to the White House to be on national tv. I guess if they can't dig up anything on Roberts they think they have to attack his family. The Post has sunk to a new low!

I wouldn't line a bird cage with the WP, the NY Times, or most other newspapers! Thank God for radio and Fox on tv! here is the article:

An Image A Little Too Carefully Coordinated

By Robin Givhan

Friday, July 22, 2005; Page C02

It has been a long time since so much syrupy nostalgia has been in evidence at the White House. But Tuesday night, when President Bush announced his choice for the next associate justice of the Supreme Court, it was hard not to marvel at the 1950s-style tableau vivant that was John Roberts and his family.

There they were -- John, Jane, Josie and Jack -- standing with the president and before the entire country. The nominee was in a sober suit with the expected white shirt and red tie. His wife and children stood before the cameras, groomed and glossy in pastel hues -- like a trio of Easter eggs, a handful of Jelly Bellies, three little Necco wafers. There was tow-headed Jack -- having freed himself from the controlling grip of his mother -- enjoying a moment in the spotlight dressed in a seersucker suit with short pants and saddle shoes. His sister, Josie, was half-hidden behind her mother's skirt. Her blond pageboy glistened. And she was wearing a yellow dress with a crisp white collar, lace-trimmed anklets and black patent-leather Mary Janes.

Even the clothes are conservative: Judge John G. Roberts, left, and his wife Jane, right, with their children Jack and Josie listen to President Bush's announcement.
Even the clothes are conservative: Judge John G. Roberts, left, and his wife Jane, right, with their children Jack and Josie listen to President Bush's announcement. (Pool Photo By Shawn Thew)
Also In Style

(Who among us did a double take? Two cute blond children with a boyish-looking father getting ready to take the lectern -- Jack Edwards? Emma Claire? Is that you? Are all little boys now named Jack?)

The wife wore a strawberry-pink tweed suit with taupe pumps and pearls, which alone would not have been particularly remarkable, but alongside the nostalgic costuming of the children, the overall effect was of self-consciously crafted perfection. The children, of course, are innocents. They are dressed by their parents. And through their clothes choices, the parents have created the kind of honeyed faultlessness that jams mailboxes every December when personalized Christmas cards arrive bringing greetings "to you and yours" from the Blake family or the Joneses. Everyone looks freshly scrubbed and adorable, just like they have stepped from a Currier & Ives landscape.

In a time when most children are dressed in Gap Kids and retailers of similar price-point and modernity, the parents put young master Jack in an ensemble that calls to mind John F. "John-John" Kennedy Jr.

Separate the child from the clothes, which do not acknowledge trends, popular culture or the passing of time. They are not classic; they are old-fashioned. These clothes are Old World, old money and a cut above the light-up/shoe-buying hoi polloi.

The Northwestern women's lacrosse team raised eyebrows when several players wore flip-flops to their visit with President Bush.
The Northwestern women's lacrosse team raised eyebrows when several players wore flip-flops to their visit with President Bush.(David Bohrer - White House via Associated Press)
The clothes also reflect a bit of the aesthetic havoc that often occurs when people visit the White House. (What should I wear? How do I look? Take my picture!) The usual advice is to dress appropriately. In this case, an addendum would have been helpful: Please select all attire from the commonly accepted styles of this century. (And someone should have given notice to the flip-flop-wearing women of Northwestern University's lacrosse team, who visited the White House on July 12 for a meet-and-greet with the president: proper footwear required. Flip-flops, modeled after shoes meant to be worn into a public shower or on the beach, have no business anywhere in the vicinity of the president and his place of residence.)

Dressing appropriately is a somewhat selfless act. It's not about catering to personal comfort. One can't give in fully to private aesthetic preferences. Instead, one asks what would make other people feel respected? What would mark the occasion as noteworthy? What signifies that the moment is bigger than the individual?

But the Roberts family went too far. In announcing John Roberts as his Supreme Court nominee, the president inextricably linked the individual -- and his family -- to the sweep of tradition. In their attire, there was nothing too informal; there was nothing immodest. There was only the feeling that, in the desire to be appropriate and respectful of history, the children had been costumed in it.

PinkMartini · 08-05-2005, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by eensor

I wouldn't line a bird cage with the WP, the NY Times, or most other newspapers! Thank God for radio and Fox on tv!

I couldn't agree more! Last semester in my pol sci class we did all kinds of reports and investigations into the major newspapers in the country. After doing that, I can't STAND the WP or NY Times

I didn't see that on tv, but that is horribly rude. I can't believe they attacked his children's clothing

eensor · 08-06-2005, 05:39 AM

I bet that class was an eye-opener!

i_love_my_yorki · 08-06-2005, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by PinkMartini

I couldn't agree more! Last semester in my pol sci class we did all kinds of reports and investigations into the major newspapers in the country. After doing that, I can't STAND the WP or NY Times

I didn't see that on tv, but that is horribly rude. I can't believe they attacked his children's clothing

I tottally agree

StewiesMom · 08-06-2005, 10:15 AM

I am a "Bush-hating" "left wing" crazy person I guess, but I don't think I would insult someone's family in public.

I know conservatives hate those papers, but Fox is the most biased, horrible media outlet I have ever encountered. I don't even watch the news on ANY STATION anymore because I don't believe anything that ANY station has to say. I don't like biased news - even if it is biased my way. I just watch C-SPAN and the actual hearings (like the John Roberts one) either replayed or in realtime. Its the only way to get real news without the commentary. I prefer to make my own decisions and interpretations of the subject matter.

I have visited the WP. The only thing I read on their paper is the horoscopes.

Its horrible.

chachi · 08-06-2005, 10:20 AM

I know what you mean I am an independent and I get so sick of both sides. My husband is a fox news watcher and believes only what they say and I have to listen to him all the time. Aagh!

littlelizzy · 08-06-2005, 10:31 AM

I can't believe they would even comment on what the children wore. I happened to see them and think, gee, it sure is nice to see kids dressed so well. Believe me, my daughter is a GAP, Abercrombie and American Eagle supporter, so don't mistake me when I say this, but sometimes I wish we did dress young children like young children instead of tiny teenagers. There is something so sweet and innocent to see a child dressed like they were. It does remind me of an older time, but sometimes I wish things were more like the "used" to be. Simpler, less hectic, family oriented, more conservative, Church on Sunday, (not just at Easter and Christmas), families eating meals together at the table, not in front of the TV. Sometimes I feel like we are losing touch with important things.
PS- Can you tell that I am a conservative Texan?

eensor · 08-07-2005, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by littlelizzy

I can't believe they would even comment on what the children wore. I happened to see them and think, gee, it sure is nice to see kids dressed so well. Believe me, my daughter is a GAP, Abercrombie and American Eagle supporter, so don't mistake me when I say this, but sometimes I wish we did dress young children like young children instead of tiny teenagers. There is something so sweet and innocent to see a child dressed like they were. It does remind me of an older time, but sometimes I wish things were more like the "used" to be. Simpler, less hectic, family oriented, more conservative, Church on Sunday, (not just at Easter and Christmas), families eating meals together at the table, not in front of the TV. Sometimes I feel like we are losing touch with important things.
PS- Can you tell that I am a conservative Texan?

Amen Kim! As for some of the previous posters being "Bush-haters," I think that is a principle difference between liberals and conservatives. We don't generally "hate" liberal candidates, we just think they are stupid or wrong. I can certainly disagree with a politician without hating him/her. Just a thought!

StewiesMom · 08-07-2005, 10:50 AM

Elizabeth - I only idenitified myself as a "Bush-Hater" because YOU said the WP writers who made fun of John Roberts' kids' clothes were Bush-Haters. I think that everyone who disagrees with Bush's policies and LIES are often lumped together as "haters" when that is not always true. I don't hate anyone who was elected in a popular manner in this country and I don't appreciate when conservatives call liberals stupid or make them "haters" (or vice versa). Its simply a conflict of interest that I am willing to accept.

chachi · 08-07-2005, 10:58 AM

I am not a bush hater either. I am just not a bush lover. Hes done nothing for our Country domestically. I voted for him but I also expected more out of him.

eensor · 08-07-2005, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by StewiesMom

Elizabeth - I only idenitified myself as a "Bush-Hater" because YOU said the WP writers who made fun of John Roberts' kids' clothes were Bush-Haters. I think that everyone who disagrees with Bush's policies and LIES are often lumped together as "haters" when that is not always true. I don't hate anyone who was elected in a popular manner in this country and I don't appreciate when conservatives call liberals stupid or make them "haters" (or vice versa). Its simply a conflict of interest that I am willing to accept.

Unless you are one of the WP writers, I obviously wasn't referring to you in the original post.You put yourself into that category. I'd also like to clarify that I was referring to SOME politicians that I think are stupid on some of the issues. Certainly, I don't think you are stupid!

Friends? Elizabeth

StewiesMom · 08-07-2005, 01:12 PM

Of course! I am not angry or upset. Just a little friendly debate

eensor · 08-07-2005, 01:14 PM

Good! Lexy wuvs Stewie!!!!!!!

SoCalyorkiLvr · 08-07-2005, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chachi

I am not a bush hater either. I am just not a bush lover. Hes done nothing for our Country domestically. .

Not only that, but he has put our country and our people at great risk by taking us to war against a sovereign nation that was no threat to us, and he lied when he said it was a threat because he always knew the truth, ....he has put us in tremendous debt, he has hurt our public education system, and he has taken away our freedoms and our civil rights by keeping us in constant fear and enacting the "socalled Patirot Act". We are no longer a democracy since he declared his "mandate" after the election. Never has a President been so arrogant and never has a President taken so much vacation time. In a time of War, I think that is obscene.

PinkMartini · 08-07-2005, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalyorkiLvr

Not only that, but he has put our country and our people at great risk by taking us to war against a sovereign nation that was no threat to us, and he lied when he said it was a threat because he always knew the truth, ....he has put us in tremendous debt, he has hurt our public education system, and he has taken away our freedoms and our civil rights by keeping us in constant fear and enacting the "socalled Patirot Act". We are no longer a democracy since he declared his "mandate" after the election. Never has a President been so arrogant and never has a President taken so much vacation time. In a time of War, I think that is obscene.

Oh no.... Here we go

08-05-2005, 05:23 PM	#1
eensor YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Effingham, Illinois Posts: 2,535	John Roberts and the media... Did anyone else see Judge Roberts' precious children on tv when he was nominated to the Supreme Court? I made the comment to my husband about how cute they looked in their dress up clothes and how that is exactly like I would dress mine if they were going to the White House. Well....the left-wing, Bush-hating, hypocritical Washington Post criticized the clothes the Roberts children were wearing!!!!! I guess they should be wearing jeans and jellies to the White House to be on national tv. I guess if they can't dig up anything on Roberts they think they have to attack his family. The Post has sunk to a new low! I wouldn't line a bird cage with the WP, the NY Times, or most other newspapers! Thank God for radio and Fox on tv! here is the article: An Image A Little Too Carefully Coordinated By Robin Givhan Friday, July 22, 2005; Page C02 It has been a long time since so much syrupy nostalgia has been in evidence at the White House. But Tuesday night, when President Bush announced his choice for the next associate justice of the Supreme Court, it was hard not to marvel at the 1950s-style tableau vivant that was John Roberts and his family. There they were -- John, Jane, Josie and Jack -- standing with the president and before the entire country. The nominee was in a sober suit with the expected white shirt and red tie. His wife and children stood before the cameras, groomed and glossy in pastel hues -- like a trio of Easter eggs, a handful of Jelly Bellies, three little Necco wafers. There was tow-headed Jack -- having freed himself from the controlling grip of his mother -- enjoying a moment in the spotlight dressed in a seersucker suit with short pants and saddle shoes. His sister, Josie, was half-hidden behind her mother's skirt. Her blond pageboy glistened. And she was wearing a yellow dress with a crisp white collar, lace-trimmed anklets and black patent-leather Mary Janes. Even the clothes are conservative: Judge John G. Roberts, left, and his wife Jane, right, with their children Jack and Josie listen to President Bush's announcement. Even the clothes are conservative: Judge John G. Roberts, left, and his wife Jane, right, with their children Jack and Josie listen to President Bush's announcement. (Pool Photo By Shawn Thew) Also In Style (Who among us did a double take? Two cute blond children with a boyish-looking father getting ready to take the lectern -- Jack Edwards? Emma Claire? Is that you? Are all little boys now named Jack?) The wife wore a strawberry-pink tweed suit with taupe pumps and pearls, which alone would not have been particularly remarkable, but alongside the nostalgic costuming of the children, the overall effect was of self-consciously crafted perfection. The children, of course, are innocents. They are dressed by their parents. And through their clothes choices, the parents have created the kind of honeyed faultlessness that jams mailboxes every December when personalized Christmas cards arrive bringing greetings "to you and yours" from the Blake family or the Joneses. Everyone looks freshly scrubbed and adorable, just like they have stepped from a Currier & Ives landscape. In a time when most children are dressed in Gap Kids and retailers of similar price-point and modernity, the parents put young master Jack in an ensemble that calls to mind John F. "John-John" Kennedy Jr. Separate the child from the clothes, which do not acknowledge trends, popular culture or the passing of time. They are not classic; they are old-fashioned. These clothes are Old World, old money and a cut above the light-up/shoe-buying hoi polloi. The Northwestern women's lacrosse team raised eyebrows when several players wore flip-flops to their visit with President Bush. The Northwestern women's lacrosse team raised eyebrows when several players wore flip-flops to their visit with President Bush.(David Bohrer - White House via Associated Press) The clothes also reflect a bit of the aesthetic havoc that often occurs when people visit the White House. (What should I wear? How do I look? Take my picture!) The usual advice is to dress appropriately. In this case, an addendum would have been helpful: Please select all attire from the commonly accepted styles of this century. (And someone should have given notice to the flip-flop-wearing women of Northwestern University's lacrosse team, who visited the White House on July 12 for a meet-and-greet with the president: proper footwear required. Flip-flops, modeled after shoes meant to be worn into a public shower or on the beach, have no business anywhere in the vicinity of the president and his place of residence.) Dressing appropriately is a somewhat selfless act. It's not about catering to personal comfort. One can't give in fully to private aesthetic preferences. Instead, one asks what would make other people feel respected? What would mark the occasion as noteworthy? What signifies that the moment is bigger than the individual? But the Roberts family went too far. In announcing John Roberts as his Supreme Court nominee, the president inextricably linked the individual -- and his family -- to the sweep of tradition. In their attire, there was nothing too informal; there was nothing immodest. There was only the feeling that, in the desire to be appropriate and respectful of history, the children had been costumed in it. __________________ I'd rather be in Mexico! Last edited by eensor; 08-05-2005 at 05:26 PM.

08-06-2005, 05:39 AM	#3
eensor YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Effingham, Illinois Posts: 2,535	I bet that class was an eye-opener! __________________ I'd rather be in Mexico!

08-06-2005, 10:15 AM	#5
StewiesMom Stewie Rox the Sox Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 6,306	I am a "Bush-hating" "left wing" crazy person I guess, but I don't think I would insult someone's family in public. I know conservatives hate those papers, but Fox is the most biased, horrible media outlet I have ever encountered. I don't even watch the news on ANY STATION anymore because I don't believe anything that ANY station has to say. I don't like biased news - even if it is biased my way. I just watch C-SPAN and the actual hearings (like the John Roberts one) either replayed or in realtime. Its the only way to get real news without the commentary. I prefer to make my own decisions and interpretations of the subject matter. I have visited the WP. The only thing I read on their paper is the horoscopes. Its horrible. __________________ Kristy & Stewie

08-06-2005, 10:20 AM	#6
chachi I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 37,147	I know what you mean I am an independent and I get so sick of both sides. My husband is a fox news watcher and believes only what they say and I have to listen to him all the time. Aagh! __________________ Chachi's & Jewels Mom Jewels http://www.dogster.com/?132431 Chachi http://www.dogster.com/?132427

08-06-2005, 10:31 AM	#7
littlelizzy Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Warren Texas Posts: 139	I can't believe they would even comment on what the children wore. I happened to see them and think, gee, it sure is nice to see kids dressed so well. Believe me, my daughter is a GAP, Abercrombie and American Eagle supporter, so don't mistake me when I say this, but sometimes I wish we did dress young children like young children instead of tiny teenagers. There is something so sweet and innocent to see a child dressed like they were. It does remind me of an older time, but sometimes I wish things were more like the "used" to be. Simpler, less hectic, family oriented, more conservative, Church on Sunday, (not just at Easter and Christmas), families eating meals together at the table, not in front of the TV. Sometimes I feel like we are losing touch with important things. PS- Can you tell that I am a conservative Texan? __________________ Kim and Mia http://dogster.com/?359747

08-07-2005, 10:50 AM	#9
StewiesMom Stewie Rox the Sox Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 6,306	Elizabeth - I only idenitified myself as a "Bush-Hater" because YOU said the WP writers who made fun of John Roberts' kids' clothes were Bush-Haters. I think that everyone who disagrees with Bush's policies and LIES are often lumped together as "haters" when that is not always true. I don't hate anyone who was elected in a popular manner in this country and I don't appreciate when conservatives call liberals stupid or make them "haters" (or vice versa). Its simply a conflict of interest that I am willing to accept. __________________ Kristy & Stewie

08-07-2005, 10:58 AM	#10
chachi I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 37,147	I am not a bush hater either. I am just not a bush lover. Hes done nothing for our Country domestically. I voted for him but I also expected more out of him. __________________ Chachi's & Jewels Mom Jewels http://www.dogster.com/?132431 Chachi http://www.dogster.com/?132427

08-07-2005, 01:12 PM	#12
StewiesMom Stewie Rox the Sox Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 6,306	Of course! I am not angry or upset. Just a little friendly debate __________________ Kristy & Stewie

08-07-2005, 01:14 PM	#13
eensor YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Effingham, Illinois Posts: 2,535	Good! Lexy wuvs Stewie!!!!!!! __________________ I'd rather be in Mexico!