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Old 05-30-2008, 08:36 PM   #1
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I'm going to make this as short as I can.
I co worker who is the super star of sales at work is cheating. Not only me, but other co workers had suspected that for a while, but didn't really had evidence. In the last weeks there were 2 incidents where 2 different customers come for service issues and they are not only unhappy, but want to end the relationship with the company because they were mislead and were told something completely different.
Co worker is best friends with the boss b/c she kisses her rear. Boss is very moody and you never know what day she is going to be in a good mood, therefore if she is having a bad day, she'll make yours worse, but loves the co worker to kiss her a$$. Needles to say you can't tell the boss that co worker is cheating because she is not going to do anything about it ( it has happen before).
It's been a rough week and I just found out that I'm working 6 days next week. Yes, boss was having a bad day today. I'm not a lsave and don't want to sound snooty, but I work b/c the xtra money never hurts, but that doesn't mean that I'm going to put up with their $hit. (I'm not the only who feels that way), anyways, I work hard because I want to be successful at what I do. I don't think is fair that me and other people at work have to follow procedures and this other chick comes ans cheats so she can get ahead "at work", because she wants a management position where she can work "business hours" M-F 8-5.
Well, today I had enough of that and I called a line were you can reported people who are violating work ethics like her !!!I can't believe I did it. Now I feel bad. No, we are not good friends but I wouldn't like anyone to do the same to me even thought I don't cheat or do anything that can jeopardize my job so I don't have to worry about anything like that, but i still feel bad because an investigation is going to be open and probably my boss is going to get involve and I don't know if they can fire her.
Has someome been in my position before? I hate what I just did, but it had to be done, other wise she is going to keep doing what she is doing okeyd by the boss.
Did I do the right thing? I'm not a bad person and I know that life is not always fair, but I just had enough of her crap!
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Old 05-30-2008, 09:18 PM   #2
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What an awful position to be in. Of course, you did the right thing, but I can totally understand how you feel. I am a manager, so I can definitely see both side of most issues (as an employee and a member of management). The good thing is that a fair and impartial investigation will be done. No one will be unjustly persecuted. But if there is evidence of wrong-doing, it will be addressed. Yes, as a manager, I would hate that someone initiated an investigation - BUT I believe that I have an open (AND FAIR) enough relationship with all of my staff that they bring those issues to me before HR has to get involved. That is your boss' responsibility that she has not created that environment.

Yes, you definitely did the right thing, even though I can understand your second thoughts and anxiety. They should interview several people and as long as people are honest, everything will work out the way it should. Just hate that it has to cause you stress in the meantime.

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Sounds to me like you didn't really have any other choice. The boss wouldn't listen and you are right, it isn't fair to you or the other workers. Hopefully something will be done. You definitely did the right thing, IMO.
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What an awful position to be in. Of course, you did the right thing, but I can totally understand how you feel. I am a manager, so I can definitely see both side of most issues (as an employee and a member of management). The good thing is that a fair and impartial investigation will be done. No one will be unjustly persecuted. But if there is evidence of wrong-doing, it will be addressed. Yes, as a manager, I would hate that someone initiated an investigation - BUT I believe that I have an open (AND FAIR) enough relationship with all of my staff that they bring those issues to me before HR has to get involved. That is your boss' responsibility that she has not created that environment.

Yes, you definitely did the right thing, even though I can understand your second thoughts and anxiety. They should interview several people and as long as people are honest, everything will work out the way it should. Just hate that it has to cause you stress in the meantime.

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Excellent.

The only thing I would add is that if someone is cheating, then someone else is losing something. It is not only unfair, but unethical and you have a right to protect yourself.

Sometimes in situations like these, if they are simply 'caught' somewhere down the road, they can sometimes place the blame elsewhere. I don't know what this person did but you know if it is wrong. And if it is...then it is. You didn't cause it. She did.

Keep your chin up. Sometimes the right thing to do is the hardest thing to do. What you did took courage. I applaud you.

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I totally agree with what you did. It looks like your company has some bad apples and someone needs to come in and sort them out. You did a good job. I don't think you should feel guilty. Just think of how grateful you would be if you were the owner of the company and someone reported cheating. I believe in honesty in the workplace and in life. Good luck to you.
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Having been a manager myself you absolutely did the right thing. This is so un-professional for anyone to allow this type of thing to go on but it does happen. My advise to you is don't tell anyone that you made that call. Even your best friends can turn on you in the future. Keep being the good worker that you are and in the end you will be the one to shine. Good luck.
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Having been a manager myself you absolutely did the right thing. This is so un-professional for anyone to allow this type of thing to go on but it does happen. My advise to you is don't tell anyone that you made that call. Even your best friends can turn on you in the future. Keep being the good worker that you are and in the end you will be the one to shine. Good luck.
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Having been a manager myself you absolutely did the right thing. This is so un-professional for anyone to allow this type of thing to go on but it does happen. My advise to you is don't tell anyone that you made that call. Even your best friends can turn on you in the future. Keep being the good worker that you are and in the end you will be the one to shine. Good luck.
I agree and good luck !!! What kind of business are you in that someone can cheat ??
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Above all I think you did the right thing. I hope everything works out for you and those that aren't doing their job get what they deserve. Please keep us posted.
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Kudos to you for having ethics. That's lacking in much of our society.
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Thank you for the advice. It makes me feel better.
I was tempted to call a co worker and tell her since she has seen other things that have happened at work and mention that she wanted to make that phone call, but I changed my mind right after I read this thread.
V, I'm in the banking business, and they are very sales driven.
If you meet your goals you get a pretty good bonus, but the way this co worker is doing is not the right way, she makes bonus by cheating and that is not fair for the rest of us.
I feel bad because she is a single mom and has a baby girl, and of course she needs the money. But she is also screwing everybody and I don't like people to screwed other people or me.
She feels protected because she goes to the manager's house and drink there and picks up her kid at school when she is off and things like that.
Now, my concern is that HR is going to go to the manager and since they are buddy buddies the manager is going to protect her and then nothing is going to get done
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..................Now, my concern is that HR is going to go to the manager and since they are buddy buddies the manager is going to protect her and then nothing is going to get done
Let me add to my previous response addressing your comment above. If your HR does not make a full and inpartial investigation, your company has bigger problems than this one employee cheating. If that happens and nothing changes, you will have to make a conscious decision to simply do your job and not worry about what others are doing (knowing that you could become a target or scapegoat in an environment like that) OR start looking for another company where your ethics and skills would be better suited.

If that were to happen, my advice to you would be the second option. My very best wishes to you...........................
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I think you did the right thing. A company should always have an open door policy in that if you can't resolve something at one level you should have the right to go up the ladder. If your boss protects this individual because of favoritism, then that just goes to show that she is not a good manager and probably should not be in that position. A good manager will see the people who are doing their jobs and reward on merit and not be partial. Now having said that, in the real world, this does not happen as often as it should. It takes people with the courage and ethics to speak up. If no one speaks up then no one will ever know.

Having owned my own business, I wanted to offer the best customer service and if someone was not providing that then that meant my business reputation as well as money out of my register. So don't feel like you did something wrong, it takes guts to take the extra step. Kudos to you.
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She feels protected because she goes to the manager's house and drink there and picks up her kid at school when she is off and things like that.
Now, my concern is that HR is going to go to the manager and since they are buddy buddies the manager is going to protect her and then nothing is going to get done
I was glad to read that you haven't told anyone. As for her going to the mgr's house, drinking etc. now that is a no no in any company. Easier said than done but try not to worry about the what ifs. You never know the outcome! Keep us posted.
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How awful! We had a similar situation where I work. A female employee who did anything and everything she wanted. We have customers coming back who are angry because she outright lied to them or misled them about things she did for them.

The branch manager took HER side over anyone who complained about her. In his eyed - she could do no wrong. Both are gone from the company now - they both retired - and we still have customers complaining!

She tried to corner me one day and I told her I wouldn't speak to her about anything that went on in the office without a manager present. We both ended up in the manager's office and she brought up something completely unrelated to work that she didn't like about me I came unglued and told her and the manager both exactly what I thought about both of them.

After that, I did my job and they BOTH left me alone - I had enough on them to hang 'em both!

I was SO relieved when they retired!

We have one of those call in lines, too - and I told BOTH of them up front that I wouldn't hesitate to use it!

You did the right thing - customers have to come first!
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