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03-20-2008, 04:56 PM | #1 |
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| Please do some reading on Gardasil first.... I know this is a controversial subject but I just want for people to just read and get educated before you give something to your daughter that may not be of any benefit to her but a danger..... When this new vaccine came out and it was directed at our little girls I was not happy and I was very suspicious, I don't believe the FDA has the publics best interests at heart anymore. There are too many drugs that have been hastily put on the market and have caused thousands of deaths before being pulled. I went looking for info. and I was right, the drug companies have all the power where the FDA is concerned.....I started looking into Garasil and the FDA and it was worse than I suspected....this is what I found in my research....Merck is the drug co. producing this drug, the clinical trials where very short and incomplete. Drug companies pay the FDA to review and approve their drugs. Drug companies can bury negative drug trials and the FDA has been caught conspiring with the drug co.'s to keep negative drug data secret from the public. This is only the tip of the corruption in the FDA.There is way too much to write about on this forum about this subject, all you have to do is google "FDA corruption" and read all about it..... My main concern was for our daughters safety and their health where this drug is concerned. I found that this drug has too many unknowns to be on the market and our daughters are at great risk of potential problems in their future. Merck has no data of the long term effects on our girls. They have no clue if they will have fertility problems, cancer, neurological problems or anything else. They have no idea how long this drug provides this supposedly immunity. There's already 11 girls who have died after receiving this shot.The National Vaccine Information Center is where reactions are reported, a journalist named Cynthia Janak went through all the documents and found this info. as of Dec 2007.....There where 6,447 reaction incidents reported ( a lot of reactions are not reported) , 71 where life threatening, 173 where hospitalized, 730 are still recovering , 93 are still disabled as of article, 77 where pregnant when given the shot, 33 suffered spontaneous abortions or fetal damage. The exposure to HPV does not cause cancer. Millions of people are exposed to this virus and our bodies natural immunity gets rid of it naturally in about two years. Sometimes it does develop into cancer. But the cancer is not from exposure of the HPV it is from persistent exposure to the virus. The shot actually increases your chances 44% of developing cancerous lesions. The important part of the story is that if we women go in for a routine pap test you can ask for a HPV test at the same time and if detected it's easily treated without the dangers of this drug. Cervical cancer has been on the decline for decades and it's one of the easiest cancers to prevent with yearly or semi-yearly testing. As far as I'm concerned Merck is using fear to use our daughters to make them and their shareholders billions of dollars. I don't know why they are wanting to vaccinate our ten year olds when cervical cancer doesn't usually show up for a couple more decades. Is Merck wanting them to come in for yearly boosters? They have no idea how long this lasts. There are way to many unknowns for a vaccine that isn't even needed with tests already in place to detect the cancer. I have a feeling this shot is going to be a medical nightmare for our girls. The parents of those 11 who have died are probably regretting their decision.The information is out there and it really needs to be investigated before our daughters pay a hefty price.....I see no benefit to give this shot just risks, risks our daughters will face.... http://www.judicialwatch.org/6428.shtml http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/janak/071211 http://www.vran.org/vaccines/hpv/hpv.htm http://www.naturalnews.com/Report_HPV_Vaccine_0.html I hope this just anted to post this to give us moms the info to make an informed decision on our girls behalf and not just blindly trust the doctors.....
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03-20-2008, 05:09 PM | #2 |
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| Good for you to put this info out there. I think too many people just follow doctors suggestions and should really be doing the research. I sometimes wonder if all the meds people are put on aren't one of the reasons for the high cancer rate.
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03-20-2008, 05:30 PM | #3 |
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| Our pediatrician is against it. He said almost the same exact things as you stated. Aside from the moral issues I have with the message that the company is sending out, I have a lot of issues with the effects of the drug itself. The FDA is sorta like someone that comes out to appraise your house for refinance. They can be paid to appraise it at pretty much whatever you want it to appraise for, thats how they make their money. Then you end up upside down with a house thats worth far less than whats owed. Its hard enough to do that with a house, and just not worth it with your health.
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03-20-2008, 05:43 PM | #4 | |
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Big Pharma will deliberately invent a "disease" so as to sell more drugs to vulnerable people, which explains all the drug commercials. Those ads are not for educational purposes they are for selling drugs....They will take a normal behavior and turn it into a disorder...Take shyness, they have now turned it into an anti social disorder, and it worked....They have targeted our children and now they are going after our pets....Does your dog bark to much? Give him an anti anxiety drug to calm him down and people are doing it....when will it end....
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03-20-2008, 06:13 PM | #5 |
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| I dont get into much news so this comes as a shock to me but at the same time Im not surprised. Words can not express how grateful that I am that you posted this. And Im glad you said the thing about the HPV, that is very true that it typically goes away if not repeatedly exposed to that virus. The thing that really scares me is what else is out there on the market like this. What medications are really safe to take?
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03-20-2008, 06:30 PM | #6 |
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| I was very suspicious of this when everyone first started talking about how great it was and how it would help so many girls. My mom is a nurse and I asked her what she thought about it and she was totally against and so were a lot of her co-workers. I am 22 now so when I first started hearing about this a lot of girls I knew went and got the shot but I would never do it..Thanks for posting this information, I'm going to save it. It's so scary that you can't even really trust medical companies that are supposed to be helping people.
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03-20-2008, 06:44 PM | #7 |
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| omg..you are scaring me.. I've gotten the 1st of three shots...Should I just stop??? Does anyone know if it will be harmful to discontinue? I'm not sure if my doctor would answer me honestly...as I'm paying $200 per shot and they would lose $400 if I stopped.
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03-20-2008, 06:58 PM | #8 |
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| Ok, I guess I live in the Dark Ages- is this a Birth control shot?? I took one back in 1997-1998- I had problems- vision, bad pap test results, ect- gained 40 lbs in 3 months!! Is the new one out?? sorry, Ijust have not heard of it!
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03-20-2008, 07:09 PM | #9 |
Donating YT 11K Club Member | I think the one you're talking about is the depo or something like that, where you don't get your period for 3-6 months A friend of mine took it and gained soo much weight. Gardisil is to prevent hpv i think
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03-20-2008, 07:34 PM | #10 | |
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| Well, I beg to differ.... Quote:
I am not sure you are not accurate about some of your statements....but, do not put all "big pharma" into the same hat. You just have to be older than 30 to have lived with diseases that cause people to die an early and painful death...breast cancer, authism....prostate cancer.....etc.... for instance....I remember when RA was called "crippling arthritis", and you just lived with it, painful and debilitating as it was usually people lived to their 70's....may of died of complications of this. like a broken hip, which by the way 80% of the people who break a hip ...will die....not due to the hip but to the "conplications" of a broken hip..anyway....now, with "big pharma" and the biologics, people can live and lead productive lives.....with the disease.....I know, I watched my Mom lose 30 lbs in one month, not able to get out of the bed to go to the bathroom.....all this brought on by an anti-inflammatory response that brought on a benign disease....to a raging horrific experience two years ago... Today, with the help of J&J (big pharma) she acts like a 40 year old...she goes thrifting....and shops, she is self sufficient....and gained her 30 lbs back because she can get out of the BED!!! So, my point is...you may be right about this medication, that it is a personal decision as to if you want to take it or your daughter to take it.....but, be grateful that you have that option....because believe it or not....this drug only gets approved after millions of dollars of research and SUCCESS with patients....not just to make money for the drug companies..... I for one am grateful that I live in a time that there are medications available to keep me and my family healthy and around longer.... But, then again....I have worked in "big pharma" for 18 years....and watched my brother, sister, father, mother in law, sister in law, friends pass with diseases that I hope one day will find cures for......Cancer.....this is a real disease, not one made up to make money for the drug companies...... Believe me..... Shirley | |
03-20-2008, 08:58 PM | #11 |
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| wow i just got my last shot last month and it was the most painful shot... wow now im nervous............ i didnt even want to get this done but my doctor kept encouraging me |
03-20-2008, 09:02 PM | #12 |
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| I think its great that you did all this research and posted it for other moms and women to see. My daughter is 12 and at her last physical her doctor pulled out the vaccine and was preparing it...I said, she is up to date on her shots. He said oh no this is the HPV vaccine, she hasnt gotten this yet. I said and she wont be getting it! Then he began to tell me how great it is and he recommends it. He was just going to give it to her without explaining it to me needless to say she did not get it...they are not using my daughter as a guinea pig.
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03-20-2008, 09:03 PM | #13 |
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| try not to worry, some people react different than others with the medications. Im sure you will be ok.
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03-20-2008, 09:36 PM | #14 |
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03-20-2008, 09:40 PM | #15 | |
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This is an interesting thread..I've thought about getting the vaccine before but I doubt I will be..I'm an adult and its expensive.
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