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Old 09-08-2011, 09:31 AM   #1
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Love My little Angel

I love my little Mia now looking for a playmate for her over the past 4 months when she is with other dogs is when she is the happiest. Sad that rescues have a terrible way dictating that I must spay my dog to get a rescue, I dont understand that its like telling a woman who can bear a child that she must have a hysterctomy before she can adopt. So eventually I will get her a playmate.

In any case my little Mia is loved spoiled and was potty trained in what I have been told is a miracle one week. I taught her to ring a hotel service bell to get a treat and knows to go out she needs to ring the bell to go out and when she is finished is rewarded with her favorite treat. It was rather simple my vet is amazed. She like all Yorkies is very bright and active she tuckers me out. She is a Rottweiler disguised as a Yorkie fearless and playful and while I work at home she is independent keeps herself entertained shes perfect for me. Glad I found this site and will visit soon.
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Welcome to YT. I'm sure you'll find a pup that is the perfect fit for your family in time. Have you thought about going to a breeder? The new pup may have to be altered, but maybe not your current one (although I'd hope good breeders insist that all pups in the house are spayed - the same as rescues).

This is done because there are millions of dog euthanzied every year for lack of homes. They just don't want their pup to end up in a family that will breed it or continue to breed their current dogs and contribute to the overpopulation problem. Perhaps they would make an exception if you explained why you aren't spaying your girl now? They are all looking for owners that will make very good medical decisions for their adopted pup and spay/neuter are generally considered the healthiest route. Good luck in your search.
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Is there any reason you are not spaying your little cutie? Is it bc she is not old enough yet?
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Old 09-09-2011, 09:05 AM   #4
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I have the intention of her having one litter and they will be given to my family. After that she will be spayed.

I used to breed Lhasa Apos and found when a dog had at least one litter they lived longer. My Lhasas lived to be 20 and 21 where everyone else who spayed immediately dogs lived average of 12 - 15 years. My Vet is in agreement with me provided I breed her at after 2 years old which is the plan then the Vet will spay her after she is ready after delivery.

If a male I believe you should spay asap. I agree with you that there are so many homeless dogs, and there are many irresponsible cruel people, however if adoption made to be so difficult why would anyone want to adopt. I am dismayed in that respect.

I filed out an application, telephone interview and even had a home visit which I passed with flying colors, however trying to get a dog I want and choose from a selection and hope to be considered has been less than fun experience, as compared to going to a location of puppies and finding one choosing and going one excited. The hassle to adopt sends people straight to the pet shop especially when you can buy a puppy for about same cost of purchasing one without the difficult process of adopting.

I wish to foster as well as adopt a spayed companion for my little girl. I think it would be a good experience for myself and my little bundle of lightening.
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Responsible pet ownership means you spay and neuter your pets. With that concept in mind, it's easy to see why rescues say no to owners who don't even do the basics like spay/neuter/vaccinate and provide regular vet care. I also think having a yorkie in a home with a dog 20x larger is asking for trouble, and I say that having grown up with large breed german shepherds in my life.
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I honestly think you might have a hard time securing a rescue dog if the rescue thinks you are not spaying/neutering your own pets.

IF you tell them that you just want her to have one litter, etc., they are not going to be impressed.

They are all full up with dogs from people who 'just wanted one litter'. So, it's kind of the opposite of everything a Rescue values and promotes.

Good Luck in your search.
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goodness I would never have a huge dog ans a little one together, its why I want a spayed companion with my little one
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You will be an automatic NO to all reputable rescue groups...period!

Spay & neuter your pets please...rescues have all the dogs we need and more because of your concept!

Those family members that you are so sure will love and care for your dog's offspring are just the people who end up surrendering their beloved pets.

I think I'll ring a bell for some tylenol now!

ps...Fostering, too...??? Oi vey!!!
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that is wrong if I adopt a spayed dog and have one not what is the problem. Why are you seemingly so upset. What you are saying sounds like if I am a woman capable of having a child and decide to adopt I should not be permitted because there are too many children in the world. Have your tubes tied and you will be considered. Absolutely rubbish its not about emotional fatalists on save the Yorkies it should be about placing one in a very good home. Please do not lose sight of that. I would never allow anyone to dictate to me how to handle my family and my dog is my family. She lives better than most kids. Cared for dressed spoiled and pampered.

It is so sad to put people through hoops to do a good thing. I did not realize this forum was so political. I thought it was all about the love of Yorkies, my heart is in the right place and won't apologize for my views.
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I have the intention of her having one litter and they will be given to my family. After that she will be spayed.

I used to breed Lhasa Apos and found when a dog had at least one litter they lived longer. My Lhasas lived to be 20 and 21 where everyone else who spayed immediately dogs lived average of 12 - 15 years. My Vet is in agreement with me provided I breed her at after 2 years old which is the plan then the Vet will spay her after she is ready after delivery.

If a male I believe you should spay asap. I agree with you that there are so many homeless dogs, and there are many irresponsible cruel people, however if adoption made to be so difficult why would anyone want to adopt. I am dismayed in that respect.

I filed out an application, telephone interview and even had a home visit which I passed with flying colors, however trying to get a dog I want and choose from a selection and hope to be considered has been less than fun experience, as compared to going to a location of puppies and finding one choosing and going one excited. The hassle to adopt sends people straight to the pet shop especially when you can buy a puppy for about same cost of purchasing one without the difficult process of adopting.

I wish to foster as well as adopt a spayed companion for my little girl. I think it would be a good experience for myself and my little bundle of lightening.
A reputable & ethical Breeder and more importantly any educated Veterinarian would completely disagree with your myth regarding the mortality of a bitch who is bred (just "once") is just that...a myth. Please take the time to educate yourself and yes, this site is not all fluff & foo-foo...we are people who want to do right by our dogs.

Neutering is the removal of the male dog's testicles

Your pet's health: On average, sterilized pets live two or three years longer than unsterilized ones. Neutering a male dog by six months of age prevents testicular cancer, prostate disease and hernias. Spaying a female dog prevents uterine cancer and helps prevent pyometra (a serious infection of the uterus) and breast cancer; having this done before the first heat offers the best protection from these diseases.
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I understand what you are saying, that you have bred before and are not an inexperienced breeder. I also see what you are saying, that if the rescue is spayed, you obviously are not getting that dog to breed with. Those parts I understand what you are saying. If you want to breed your dog, it's your dog and your right to make that decision.

Where you and I separate in thinking is I do not understand the pregnant woman/adoption correlation. We are not euthanizing children in orphanages by the million a year due to homelessness and no funds to care for them.

I understand your frustration. Perhaps you could watch for an elderly person who needs to rehome a neutered animal and would welcome the home you would provide. Sometimes pets are displaced due to illness or divorce who would appreciate a home. I wish you luck in finding your little one a neutered companion.

Just to get to know each other a little better, I have always had female dogs, and I have never felt the need to breed them. I just could not trust someone else w a little one I helped bring into this world. I couldn't hand them to someone else. I also do not want to risk my pets lives. I work in human med and have seen far too often the things that can go wrong. I would be afraid I could not get to the vet's office in time in the middle of the night. That's me, though. We are all different. Makes the world go round.
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being a woman and being a dog aren't the same things. you keep comparing this situation to that of a woman adopting a child and having to be "fixed" before hand. dogs do not have the same feelings that humans do reguarding the removal of their uterus and sex organs. they are not human. they aren't going to feel a loss or less of a woman because of it. your logic to breed once just because and give pups away is the exact same reason there are pups all over the rescues and we are turning away more and more dogs because we're filled up and overflowing with the "just one time" breedings. you will not find a reputable rescue that will give a dog to a person that wants to breed their pets because they are against the irresponsible breeding of pets. they see it too much and they won't allow it to happen more and more. even if you aren't breeding the two together, doesn't matter you are showing that you are not (in the rescue's eyes) a reputable owner and are not responsible with your own animal's health and well being. so they won't adopt out to you.

suggestion, just spay your girl and let her live a life WITHOUT children. dogs are much happier that way and won't feel an ounce of regret not ever having children.
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that is wrong if I adopt a spayed dog and have one not what is the problem. Why are you seemingly so upset. What you are saying sounds like if I am a woman capable of having a child and decide to adopt I should not be permitted because there are too many children in the world. Have your tubes tied and you will be considered. Absolutely rubbish its not about emotional fatalists on save the Yorkies it should be about placing one in a very good home. Please do not lose sight of that. I would never allow anyone to dictate to me how to handle my family and my dog is my family. She lives better than most kids. Cared for dressed spoiled and pampered.

It is so sad to put people through hoops to do a good thing. I did not realize this forum was so political. I thought it was all about the love of Yorkies, my heart is in the right place and won't apologize for my views.
I am at a total loss as to how to address your comparison of being a fertile woman or how that has anything to do with adopting a rescue But I shall try to address is what you feel as someone dictating your pet ownership.

The reason there are so many animals that are in need of rescue is from irresponsible breeding and pet ownership. There are millions of animals killed every year because people like yourself feel it's their "right" to breed. Breeding should be looked upon as a privilege and should only be done to accomplish bettering of the breed. It's disgusting to me to hear of puppies being sold in the local Walmart parking lot, all over Facebook, the internet, Kijji and a plethora of other questionable avenues to peddle puppies for a profit. Sure they had the right to breed but what does it accomplish?

I suggest you take a look in the Sick and Injured forum to see all of the poorly bred dogs that suffer from this need to breed? How about the local shelter and all of the millions of dogs that are PTS every year from this same "need to breed".

When a shelter or rescue stipulate that all animals within your home need to be spayed/neutered to be considered for adoption it is their right as well. They have the right to place any requirements upon you as a possible home for a dog in their care. This requirement is no different than a responsible breeder having a spay/neuter contract.

These same people see unfathomable heartache from all of these poor unwanted animals. They see dogs in horrible condition dumped, abused, neglected that they try to save. These same rescue have financial supporters that hold a standard of philosophical pet ownership and that does not include owning unaltered animals. Straight across the board~it's a basic requirement.

As for fostering with unaltered dog within your home let's address this as well. Many times the dogs that come into foster care are not altered as well. Their previous owners many times have used them to breed. Now you have a rescue in a foster situation with other unaltered animals. It's just a disaster waiting to happen. Being a foster home is not about the foster home it's about the well being of the little foster pup. Just the same way as being the owner of a rescue is about the well being of the rescue.

I wish you luck with wanting to rescue and foster but to be honest any rescue that would allow this to happen under your given situation should be under scrutiny.
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