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08-08-2006, 08:32 PM | #1 |
No Longer a Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: mi
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| Beware--Any one have a problem with a breeder in mi We are wondering if anyone has gotten a dog from a breeder in Roscommon or Houghten Lake MI???? We would love to compare notes.... We have a balding yorkie with no testicles and all she would say when we called her was hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......drop me a line if you ever figure out what is wrong with him......... She also raises shi tzus........ Please let us know if anyone has any of her dogs...we are trying to get more info on her other puppies to see if this is a pattern. she will no longer answer her phone when we call...we have only called once........and we paid extra for breeding rights...... |
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08-13-2006, 08:40 AM | #2 | |
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Hi, I had a problem with my breeder to Chloe, she lived north of us but would never tell me what city, she met us at a McDonalds parking lot to show and gave us an e-mail address and a telephone number. She was just as cold to me when I called her with my needs. All I know is her name was Carol and the McDonalds she met us at was btwn Roscommon & Dearborn. She was evasive but I was so excited I did not realize until too late. Her idea to meet at that McDonalds was because it was btwn the 2 of us so my step-daughter agreed. I was agitated and when we exchanged $ & Chloe, I asked for her home address, she told me it was in the papers, meanwhile it was not, nor was her last name! I of course, read the papers after I returned home
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08-13-2006, 09:29 AM | #3 |
My furkids Donating Member | Do I hear puppymill???? Sounds like it to me!! Especially where she wouldn't give you her address...and, had you pick up the puppy at McDonalds...Doesnt' sound right to me.Sounds like she doesn't want anyone to see what's going on?! JMO
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08-13-2006, 10:28 AM | #4 |
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| Patti, What type of papers did she give you that didn't have the name on them.... if you still have the phone number I think I have a program on my computer that I can used to get the name that matches it ,,,also some free online programs will give you the name and address , it is called reverse lookup My breeder too was very very cold . She however had a very sweet voice when speaking to my husband and made him belive that she was a really big show kennel. She talked him into sending her a deposit the day the puppy was born. When we went to her home to get the puppy , which she originally wanted us to take at seven weeks, we refused to pick it up that early and she called us every three days until my husband finally relented after two weeks of this mess, we never got anything that she promised. We were supposed to see the parents, get to pick which puppy we wanted out of two males, get a starter pack (which was not really a big deal) and get not only the akc papers but a pedigree.....we got nothing but the akc papers which we ended up having to pay and extra $100 for on the spot, and a pacifier.Yes I said a pacifier...a real baby pacifier..that was her starter pack....oh....I forgot she also gave us an ink pen.....with her name on it.What we didn't get was a pedigree, a choice of puppies or to see the parents. We did find out while we were there that she has about 34 dogs in total,,,yorkies and shi tzu''s .....She did invite us into the house and not an adult dog was to be seen in the room that we were ushered into. It was spotless clean and sparse of any furniture. It has a table at one end,,like an old 1950"s table....now mind you it was the middle of summre 100 degrees out side and next to this table was a fake fire place...with a fake flame....on the opposite end of the wall was the wierdest thing we had ever seen and we laughed all the way home....I guess she was trying to make a still life muriel or someing but perhaps 3-d or something..but there was a full wall.......with brown paneling on it...and a fake CHRISTMAS TREE cut in half nailed to it. the pole was plum cut in half....and the branches were smacked flat and also nailed to the wall....and in the branced was a taxidermied squirrel ,,,,but only half...like cut down the middle..and also attached to the wall..........and there was also a stuffed bird.....but only the body and one wing..no legs...with the wing sorta stuck out and it was above a branch of this fake tree....on the floor was a toy stuffed bear....also cut in half...attached to the wall..........I could go on and on but it is just to odd to continue. Anyway...there were three puppies...a very small yorkie pup...a very small shi tzu, and a larger yorkie puppy. well guess which one she handed us and said ..this is yours..he is so big because you waited to long. well we ask at that point if she has shi tzus and she said...oh no i just bought that puppy.she was in such a hurry to get us out of there is wasn't funny..she didn't want to answer any questions and once we seen the bizzaro wall we should have taken a hint....my husband did say , what if we don't like this yorkie..and I quoate..she says...well...deposits are non-refundable.......and i can sell him five minutes after you walk out the door. Well we took him..and paid the extra $100 and off we went. he whined and cryed and shook all the way home.......after we got him home we tried to feed him and realized ..he didn't have any teeth..we had to buy baby food and hand feed him for two weeks before they came in . he also had ear mites..his little ears were packed so full the vet said do not try to clean them out it could force them down further.she gave us a liquid that we had to drop into his ear four times a day and then he would shake his head and the crud would just fly all over....he also had NEVER been WORMED...NEVER. He had round wormes, tape, whip and hook. it was a wonder he lived at all. This is gross but he pooped worms solid for two days......and we have had to keep him tested and on a worming program like he was a wild animal. once we got the wormed under control and thought that he was making strides....the vet said..we have another problem..no testicles....he was getting healthier,,,but not testicles.....four days after that visit we noticed that we were getting a lot of hair on his little bed our clothes ect. next thing we realized he had BALD SPOTS.the bald spots got worse within a week he was totally bald from the back of his head to the middle of his body....and down both sides.......one thing right after another...oddly enough I found out that she also lied about raising shi tzu's when we just happen to see an older lady caring a little shi puppy around Grayling...she had a group of people making over it and the poor dog was terrified ...i kind of eaves dropped and i heard the name of the breeder . I stuck my nose in and the story I got was worse than ours. her shi tzu had spent more time in the vets than at her home..the dog oddly enough had ear mites, an u t infection, worms..(hers hadn't been wormed either, plus an upper respitory infection. she also had sent a deposit to assure her a puppy and was told the same thing ..when she seen the puppy and didn't want it ..she was losing that $100 deposit just like we were told....and then this elderly lady went on to tell us that this woman spreads puppies like little kids spread peanut butter...so i will try to help you find out who your breeder, is ..perhaps it is the same one....our breeder told us that she didn't have a computer,and the name on the papers was not carol, however the lady with the shi tzu puppy called her carol but told us her real name is Lois.......so we can compare info and see if it is the same one. Last edited by simonandhallie; 08-13-2006 at 04:05 PM. |
08-13-2006, 10:43 AM | #5 |
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| so sorry to all about the long bottom thing on that message.i don;'t know what i did to make the large blank spot but it someone else does please tell me so i won't do it again.....also can the rest of you see the large blank or just me???? |
08-13-2006, 01:30 PM | #6 | |
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Anyway, My story was just as bad and if it makes you feel any better, I have a happy ending (I think Chloe loves what I gave her when she left CAROL. She is the most caring, sensitive, special Yorkie, she is patient, and has a huge personality that is different then the other Yorkie's in my blocks (5 living nearby - not planned) and I have a 2nd Yorkie (Sissy) besides. Anyway Chloe teaches herself things, but the puppy yorkie Sissy is absolutely lucky that Chloe has her temperament after what Sissy does to Chloe. Anyway, Chloe turned out ok but we also spent months at the vet, worms, ear mites, coccidia (spelling?) many infections, had to spend $$ on testing for suspected liver damages, other organ damages, but I try not to think of that.... Other then the poor health, the things that bothered me is the breeder, Carol,#810-614-5099 (is the only info I actually have) Gave me a packet of papers, I was so excited after holding CHloe (Chloe knew I was rescueing her but I didn't) that I never looked inside UNTIL AFTER I got home. No last name, no nothing about her, I DO NOT have Chloe's papers!!!! nothing, very little direction on how to take care of her. AND I never had a dog before. I ONLY HAD THE CELL # because we got lost driving out to meet her so my step-daughter told her since we were unfamiliar with the area we should have a # in case we got lost, sure enough we did. Anyway I do believe that my breeder should be reported, as well as yours if they r different but to whom??? Shamey on all those people who treat these puppies like that. Anyway, thanks for responding and if you know how I can get an address on her, please let me know. PS She wanted X$ to not keep my agreement to get her fixed but I did not pay that.
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08-13-2006, 03:46 PM | #7 |
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| More Info Patti, I Have Been Working On The Phone #...so Far This Is What I Have...it Is A Nextel Phone Number And It Was Bought Out Of Lapeer Michigan. I Could Use Some More Info....where Did You Hear About This Woman. Did She Advertise In The Detroit News ? Do You Happen To Know Her Daughters Name....what Was The Packet Of Papers..i Am Trying To Get More Info For You ,,,,,,,so Far What I Have Found Out Is Not Much Help. |
08-13-2006, 03:57 PM | #8 |
My furkids Donating Member | This so sounds like a puppymill to me!! I understand once you see those adorable little faces it's very hard to say no. I know I couldn't do it. But, what did you have to pay an extra $100.00 for? The papers to register the dog? The breeder is supposed to register the entire litter. They then give you the form to fill out and send to AKC. I can't remember but I think I paid $15.00 for Sadies papers. I would investigate this woman...sounds shady to me..especially selling sick puppies..bad! bad! bad!
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08-13-2006, 06:59 PM | #9 | |
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The e-mail address she gave me was:Crosswynd@earthlink.net HEY HEY I DIDN'T THINK I HAD A HOME NUMBER, while looking thru the papers for the e-mail address I find my handwriting saying home# 810-7962954 also after I bought Chloe she then said I can get papers on line for canadian/ckc/apr BUT before we drove out there she told Stephanie they were akc thanks again bye for now
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08-13-2006, 07:00 PM | #10 | |
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YES YES YES
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09-13-2006, 07:37 PM | #11 |
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| update Hey I was just reading the post and I thought I would just check out the email and found this info: http://www.infodog.com/brag/breepage/b131108.htm on her site it says she owns only 6 dogs. PRIMARY BREED: Std Poodles OTHER BREED 1: Doberman |
09-13-2006, 07:59 PM | #12 |
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| info Jeffrey Derosia More Information 2424 Kavanaugh St Ossineke, MI Phone number 9894712463 |
09-13-2006, 08:16 PM | #13 |
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| Ohhhhhhhh this is getting exciting!! Go get her girls...she deserves to be reported!! Dawn |
09-13-2006, 08:59 PM | #14 |
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| So what happened to PEN and how is she connected to SimonAnd Halie?
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11-16-2006, 11:24 AM | #15 |
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| I hope people are still watching this thread, I know I am posting late. But I got a bichon puppy from this breeder (Carol, phone number 810-614-5099) from Imlay City/Dryen area, we met her at a public place, and our puppy died just a few months after we got her. She was very sick with multiple problelms, and when we confronted Carol she was EXTREMELY rude and even scary/threatening. I researched into her and found she has been arrested in the past for animal abuse, this was years ago, but she is still breeding and selling obviously. If we can all work together, I think we can get something done about her, please respond if you also have evidence against her. Thanks, and so sorry to anyone who has also dealt with her. |
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