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Ellie May · 10-26-2007, 05:55 PM

I have another question or two.

Thanks for being so patient ladies (and gents).

Please look at Baby's incision picture in this link (at bottom of this message) (I hope you don't mind me using your pic Baby Fidgette). I don't have a digital camera so this will have to do. Ellie's incision is four inches long (so it looks slightly longer than Baby's). Ellie has about 20 staples.

The vet had to do a huge incision because she needed to get to Ellie's liver. I don't know why she closed with staples but it might have had something to do with getting out of anesthesia faster. One of the staples was coming out so I called the vet. She said it is fine if one or two come out since there are so many of them. Now by the top of the incision it is a bit red. I guess we will watch to make sure it doesn't get redder. I am seeing about 15 very tiny dots of blood on Ellie's onesie. Is this normal? They are close to the top where she is pink/red. The vet did say (when I called her about the staple coming out) that if I had any concerns call. Does the slight redness and blood dots sound normal?

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Beckyhebert · 10-26-2007, 06:01 PM

Jolie is scheduled for her spaying next month ... but I am getting a little worried.. pray for us.

SladesMommy · 10-26-2007, 06:01 PM

All the girls I've had spayed have had suture, but they have all had a bit of redness towards the ends of their incisions. I don't recall any blood, but the staples may irritate the skin more than sutures do.

Hope everythng is okay with her!

kalina82 · 10-26-2007, 06:02 PM

The incision needed to be that big because basically they prep'd her for an exploratory which is any abdominal surgery. The incision needs to be longer in case something happens they will be able to get to everything they need to with ease. Staples are used to get out of surgery faster if the patient is small, the surgery was long, the patient wasn't doing well, or, lets face it, the surgeon was being lazy. Its ok if one or two come out as long as they aren't right next to each other and the incision doesn't look like its opening up. It may be red and irritated because she's rubbing against it while laying down, or the clothes are rubbing it, or she is scratching or licking at it. You may not see her do this, but believe me, they do it when your not looking. If its red you can put neosporin on it. Also if you suspect her licking at it you can place bengay or vick's vapor rub around the incision not directly on it and it will deter her from licking at it. The blood may be there because she just pulled a staple out and it bled a little. if the incision is not opening up then i wouldn't be worried about taking her to the vet. just be sure no more come out and you keep her away from it.

YorkieRose · 10-26-2007, 06:10 PM

Both incisions look normal, healing well...redness is at a minium.
The best incision is a 2 in closed with surgerical glue..but it is not always possible I guess. Ellie's incision is really a big one, but in a few months it will not be noticable..best wishes

kalina82 · 10-26-2007, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose

Both incisions look normal, healing well...redness is at a minium.
The best incision is a 2 in closed with surgerical glue..but it is not always possible I guess. Ellie's incision is really a big one, but in a few months it will not be noticable..best wishes

hopefully that surgical glue is backed up with something else.

Ellie May · 10-26-2007, 06:20 PM

Yeah, she cut for the spay and while she was looking at everything in there she got the idea to do a liver biopsy so she had to lengthen her cut. I am sure Ellie isn't licking but the onesie could be rubbing. I would take it off and use an e-collar but she will rub it on blankets anyway so there would be no difference. I was just getting concerned with the redness and blood but she is probably fine. I will call tomorrow if she gets too much redder.

Connie · 10-26-2007, 10:19 PM

When Maddie was spayed...about three or four days later I noticed blood spots on her onesie and she was also very red on one end of her incision. I took her to the vet and she had an infection in her incision and was put on antibiotics. Good thing you're taking her to the vet. Get well wishes from Maddie, Libby and I!!!

Ellie May · 10-27-2007, 07:12 AM

I just talked to a tech and they are not extremely worried but it would be a good idea to see her. So 7 tonight if it doesn't get better. The incision bled a little (about 10 more dots) overnight and the staple came out a long time ago.

Yorkiekids · 10-27-2007, 07:53 AM

I'd call. I'd rather be safe then sorry. Can you put some hydrogen peroxide on the red area?

FL Tink · 10-27-2007, 08:03 AM

I would definately check with the vet. I am a post surgical nurse and we always teach not to use ointment on the incision as it might keep the wound from closing. straight hydrogen peroxide is very damaging to the skin but is great for keeping the wound clean. If you have to use it I would cut it with strerile saline or water from a pharmacy by at least 50 percent of each.. but granted.. I don't work on animals!!

kalina82 · 10-27-2007, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiekids

I'd call. I'd rather be safe then sorry. Can you put some hydrogen peroxide on the red area?

peroxide doesn't get rid of red area. its only used to clean up blood. if she has a red irritated area a triple antibiotic ointment can be used

Ellie May · 10-27-2007, 08:07 AM

I just want to make sure it is nothing coming from the inside. It is unlikely but possible. I have spent over $2000 there this year so they can look at it for me.

I do have panalog here (isn't that dog neosporin?). Atleast I won't have to buy any if they want me to use it.

kalina82 · 10-27-2007, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ellie May

I just want to make sure it is nothing coming from the inside. It is unlikely but possible. I have spent over $2000 there this year so they can look at it for me.

I do have panalog here (isn't that dog neosporin?). Atleast I won't have to buy any if they want me to use it.

panalog is used for dermatitis type stuff. its not going to hurt to put it on the red areas because it is an anti-inflammatory i believe. so if it is itching and bothering her the panalog should sooth it.

Ellie May · 10-27-2007, 04:32 PM

So, Ellie went to the vet tonight. All is fine and there is no infection.

But, oye. I think we go too much. Her regular vet doesn't work on Saturdays so another vet saw her. He happens to be one of the main surgeons there. I had never met him before and he comes and and says, "So this is the infamous Ellie May".

I guess Ellie's vet consulted with him before she spayed her. We really need to give them a break.

10-26-2007, 05:55 PM	#1
Ellie May And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 17,928	Spay Incision Questions I have another question or two. Thanks for being so patient ladies (and gents). Please look at Baby's incision picture in this link (at bottom of this message) (I hope you don't mind me using your pic Baby Fidgette). I don't have a digital camera so this will have to do. Ellie's incision is four inches long (so it looks slightly longer than Baby's). Ellie has about 20 staples. The vet had to do a huge incision because she needed to get to Ellie's liver. I don't know why she closed with staples but it might have had something to do with getting out of anesthesia faster. One of the staples was coming out so I called the vet. She said it is fine if one or two come out since there are so many of them. Now by the top of the incision it is a bit red. I guess we will watch to make sure it doesn't get redder. I am seeing about 15 very tiny dots of blood on Ellie's onesie. Is this normal? They are close to the top where she is pink/red. The vet did say (when I called her about the staple coming out) that if I had any concerns call. Does the slight redness and blood dots sound normal? http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...=spay+incision __________________ Crystal, Ellie May (RIP), Rylee Finnegan, and Gracie Boo🐶

10-26-2007, 06:01 PM	#2
Beckyhebert Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: houston Posts: 854	Jolie is scheduled for her spaying next month ... but I am getting a little worried.. pray for us. __________________ Love J2mom crew

10-26-2007, 06:01 PM	#3
SladesMommy Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: ATX Posts: 4,513	All the girls I've had spayed have had suture, but they have all had a bit of redness towards the ends of their incisions. I don't recall any blood, but the staples may irritate the skin more than sutures do. Hope everythng is okay with her! __________________ GIGANTIC DOG CLOTHES SALE!!! <--- CLlCK!

10-26-2007, 06:02 PM	#4
kalina82 Phantom Queen Morrigan Donating Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: with my yorkie baby Posts: 10,141 Blog Entries: 1	The incision needed to be that big because basically they prep'd her for an exploratory which is any abdominal surgery. The incision needs to be longer in case something happens they will be able to get to everything they need to with ease. Staples are used to get out of surgery faster if the patient is small, the surgery was long, the patient wasn't doing well, or, lets face it, the surgeon was being lazy. Its ok if one or two come out as long as they aren't right next to each other and the incision doesn't look like its opening up. It may be red and irritated because she's rubbing against it while laying down, or the clothes are rubbing it, or she is scratching or licking at it. You may not see her do this, but believe me, they do it when your not looking. If its red you can put neosporin on it. Also if you suspect her licking at it you can place bengay or vick's vapor rub around the incision not directly on it and it will deter her from licking at it. The blood may be there because she just pulled a staple out and it bled a little. if the incision is not opening up then i wouldn't be worried about taking her to the vet. just be sure no more come out and you keep her away from it. __________________ Kellie and Morgan

10-26-2007, 06:10 PM	#5
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	spaying Both incisions look normal, healing well...redness is at a minium. The best incision is a 2 in closed with surgerical glue..but it is not always possible I guess. Ellie's incision is really a big one, but in a few months it will not be noticable..best wishes

10-26-2007, 06:20 PM	#7
Ellie May And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 17,928	Yeah, she cut for the spay and while she was looking at everything in there she got the idea to do a liver biopsy so she had to lengthen her cut. I am sure Ellie isn't licking but the onesie could be rubbing. I would take it off and use an e-collar but she will rub it on blankets anyway so there would be no difference. I was just getting concerned with the redness and blood but she is probably fine. I will call tomorrow if she gets too much redder. __________________ Crystal, Ellie May (RIP), Rylee Finnegan, and Gracie Boo🐶

10-26-2007, 10:19 PM	#8
Connie Loved by Maddie & Libby Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North Dakota Posts: 10,732	When Maddie was spayed...about three or four days later I noticed blood spots on her onesie and she was also very red on one end of her incision. I took her to the vet and she had an infection in her incision and was put on antibiotics. Good thing you're taking her to the vet. Get well wishes from Maddie, Libby and I!!! __________________ Custom doggie dresses and vests Memory is a country where I can go to see your face - but where do I go when I miss your embrace?

10-27-2007, 07:12 AM	#9
Ellie May And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 17,928	I just talked to a tech and they are not extremely worried but it would be a good idea to see her. So 7 tonight if it doesn't get better. The incision bled a little (about 10 more dots) overnight and the staple came out a long time ago. __________________ Crystal, Ellie May (RIP), Rylee Finnegan, and Gracie Boo🐶

10-27-2007, 07:53 AM	#10
Yorkiekids Piper & Sebastian Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: florida Posts: 14,495	I'd call. I'd rather be safe then sorry. Can you put some hydrogen peroxide on the red area? __________________ Susan, Piper ,Harley & Suiki

10-27-2007, 08:03 AM	#11
FL Tink No Longer a Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Riverview, Florida Posts: 4,953	I would definately check with the vet. I am a post surgical nurse and we always teach not to use ointment on the incision as it might keep the wound from closing. straight hydrogen peroxide is very damaging to the skin but is great for keeping the wound clean. If you have to use it I would cut it with strerile saline or water from a pharmacy by at least 50 percent of each.. but granted.. I don't work on animals!!

10-27-2007, 08:07 AM	#13
Ellie May And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 17,928	I just want to make sure it is nothing coming from the inside. It is unlikely but possible. I have spent over $2000 there this year so they can look at it for me. I do have panalog here (isn't that dog neosporin?). Atleast I won't have to buy any if they want me to use it. __________________ Crystal, Ellie May (RIP), Rylee Finnegan, and Gracie Boo🐶

10-27-2007, 04:32 PM	#15
Ellie May And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 17,928	So, Ellie went to the vet tonight. All is fine and there is no infection. But, oye. I think we go too much. Her regular vet doesn't work on Saturdays so another vet saw her. He happens to be one of the main surgeons there. I had never met him before and he comes and and says, "So this is the infamous Ellie May". I guess Ellie's vet consulted with him before she spayed her. We really need to give them a break. __________________ Crystal, Ellie May (RIP), Rylee Finnegan, and Gracie Boo🐶