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10-17-2007, 09:38 AM | #1 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Door County, WI
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| Phenobarb for dog? has anyone used it? Bentley has a very soft cottony coat and his hair is severly matted in some areas. I work on an area for awhile and by the time I get it decent other areas get worse. i am never able to get him completely smooth and un matted. I think I will have to have him shaved or clipped with an electric clipper. My concern is that it will be very traumatic for him and certainly somewhat painful. I called my vet's office this morning to ask if there is a medication I could give him before the grooming so that he would be calm for the event. Bentley hardly allows me to work on him..and then for very short periods of time. Mostly he is trying to chew on the brush. A muzzle helps callm him...but of coarse I hate to do that for too long. The vvet's assistant said the vet will most likely give me phenobarb. This is something he's given to other pwners whose dogs don''t tolerate nail clipping or grooming. I've looked on the internet and see that it's a medication mainly used for dogs with epilepsy and seizures. I guess it can also sedate a dog. Has anyone here ever used this medication for either sedation or for seizures? I'm wondering how well it works...how long it takes to act and how long to wear off. Thanks
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10-17-2007, 10:46 AM | #2 |
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| I had a dog on phenobarbital for seizures but I guess that's not much help to you. Spike has trouble in the car and during thunderstorms and I think (I'm not 100% sure) my vet suggested valium as a last resort to herbal remedies.
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10-17-2007, 11:39 AM | #3 |
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| My one cat Mika is a neurotic groomer. She will groom herself until she has no hair and has raw patches. She takes Phenobarb as a mood stabilizer. Hope this helps some.
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10-17-2007, 11:56 AM | #4 |
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| My Lady is epileptic and has been on Phenobarbital for almost eight years. I have never heard of a vet prescribing it to calm dogs down before. Pheno is really hard on the liver which is why they hold off prescribing it for seizures until they absolutely have to. It's not even approved by the FDA for use in dogs. Here is some information on PB: http://www.canine-epilepsy-guardian-...nobarbital.htm Are you sure your vet didn't suggest Benadryl? I've heard of that being used to calm a dog before grooming or a car trip. |
10-17-2007, 12:37 PM | #5 | |
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If you do try Benadryl, try it at home first to see how he reacts. Some dogs have the opposite reaction of what you want. I gave it to Spike for a long car trip and he completely freaked out. It was horrible. My vet said this is not an uncommon reaction. It works great for a lot of dogs but just make sure it works for your's ahead of time.
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10-17-2007, 10:57 PM | #6 |
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| Pheno or dogs...etc Yes..the vet definitely said phenobarbbital. I picked some up yesterday. He also gave me acepromazine. He said to give one tablet of the pheno and 1/4 portion of the Acepromazine. He said to them wait to see if that works and if not I can increase it by another tablet of pheno and another 1/4th tab of acepromazine.. I read everything I can find onthe net about these drugs. It's true that te Pheno can damage the liver and it is habit forming when given regularly. Therefore dogs taking it regularly (for seizures) must be reduced gradually But I'm not worried about a one time thing like this. i read about the acepromazine also. this is another form of sedative that might help when added to the pheno. But, according to one site, some dogs can "will" themselves to overcome it. So it is not a good choice to use for an agreesive dog. It' also best to give it when the dog is calm...not when aggression has already begune. Then to be careful around the dog (agressive dog). Bentley' not aggressive....he's just very likely to be trying to get away. The vet mentioned he also prescribes these meds for some dogs who hve severe reactions to thunderstorms. I'll probably try these meds in the next day or two. I'm not planing to be using meds every time he needs grooming. But for this first time when he is so badly matted I think it will be pretty traumatic and having him stuggling against the grooming would seem more dangerous to me than grogging him up for a couple hours. I'll report back whhat I find out afterwards. Thanks for your replies.
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10-17-2007, 11:06 PM | #7 |
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| Please pardon my terrible typing in last message I tried to edit it ...but that didn't work. sorry
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