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daso · 10-03-2007, 06:01 PM

After reading a thread of a lady that wanted a dog either a yorkie or sliky terrier i was curious as I never heard of a silky terrier. And it totally blew me away. MY ROCKY IS A SILKY LOL

All of the description fits him to a tee. Its incredible, I was always suspect his size and what not but I think all of you yorkie owners with a yorkie thats a little taller and bigger to investigate this.

It fits my rocky exactly

Pronunciation
Silky Terrier
Description
The Silky Terrier, also called the Sidney Terrier, is a fine-boned, moderately low-set, long-haired terrier. It is compact but lightly built. It has erect, v-shaped ears and a docked tail. (Docking is illegal in some European Countries.) The head is flat and wide between the ears, with a shallow stop. The nose is black and the eyes are round and dark with a piercing expression. The teeth should form a scissors bite with a sturdy jaw. The body is slightly longer than tall with a level topline. The round, catlike feet are small and well-padded. Dewclaws should be removed. The coat is long, about 5-6 inches (12-15 cm). The fine, silky, shiny hair has no undercoat. It is very prone to tangles and mats unless frequently groomed. The coat should not reach the floor. The hair is parted down the center of the back. The coat comes in blue & fire red, or blue with tan markings. Many shades of blue are permitted. The topknot should be lighter in color than the tan points. Silky Terriers are born black.
Temperament
This loving, little terrier is very intelligent, courageous and alert. Affectionate, spunky cheerful and sociable, they like to be close to their master, but do not accept them to be a "mellow" lap dog. They are full of energy. Curious about everything, it is an enthusiastic digger. Active, keen and demanding. Smart and quick, though a bit willful as with most terriers. Despite its size, this docile dog is watchful and protective. Normally these dogs are very loving with children if they are raised with them, but they can be snappish if peeved and should not be rough-handled or teased. A hardy little fellow, it is a good dog to travel with. It makes an excellent watchdog, but can become a barker if not controlled. They are reserved with strangers and not generally trustworthy with other pets. Socialize them well with cats when they are still a puppy or they will chase them when they get older. Can get jealous and pick fights with other dogs. Training these dogs is very straight- forward because it is very eager to learn.
Height, Weight
Height: 9-10 inches (23-25 cm.)
Females are generally smaller than the males.
Weight: 8-11 pounds (4-5 kg.)
Health Problems
Generally healthy. Minor concerns are intervertebral disc disease, elbow dysplasia, patellar luxation and Legg-Perthes. This breed sometimes is afflicted with diabetes, epilepsy, tracheal collapse.
Living Conditions
The Silky Terrier is good for apartment life. They are very active indoors and will do okay without a yard.
Exercise
The Silky Terrier is full of energy. It has surprising stamina and will enjoy regular chances to run and play, however they will adapt to the family's circumstances.
Life Expectancy
About 12-15 years.
Grooming
The Silky Terrier is very prone to tangles and mats and needs daily combing and brushing. It should be bathed regularly to keep the hair in top condition. It takes quite a commitment from its owner, requiring about 15 minutes a day. After bathing, make sure the dog is thoroughly dry and warm. The coat must be trimmed occasionally, and the hair on the legs from the knees down is often trimmed short. The hair that falls over the eyes is tied up in a topknot so the dog will be able to see easier. The Silky Terrier sheds little to no hair.
Origin
The Silky Terrier was originally developed in 19th century Australia from other terrier breeds such as the Skye and Cairn but primarily the Australian Terrier and the Yorkshire Terrier. American servicemen stationed in Australia during World War II brought Silky Terriers home with them after the war. The breed was recognized by the AKC in 1959 and its standard was established in 1962 (and later updated in 1967). Though the Silky Terrier has always been primarily a companion dog, this swift little dog can catch domestic rodents.

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I still love the hell out of him and would not trade him for the world

MyFairLacy · 10-03-2007, 06:04 PM

He could still be a yorkie. There are a lot of yorkies that resemble silkies and are are larger. I believe there has also been a lot of mixing of yorkies and silkies and the puppies are being sold as yorkies

dani23d · 10-03-2007, 06:05 PM

WOW! Congrats on your findings! By the way, where did you get such detailed descriptions? Wikipedia? I like how it goes into detail!

daso · 10-03-2007, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dani23d

WOW! Congrats on your findings! By the way, where did you get such detailed descriptions? Wikipedia? I like how it goes into detail!

Thanks I got it from here http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/

daso · 10-03-2007, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy

He could still be a yorkie. There are a lot of yorkies that resemble silkies and are are larger. I believe there has also been a lot of mixing of yorkies and silkies and the puppies are being sold as yorkies

yes he may be a mix but Im so happy for some reason on finding this type of dog as I never heard of it. But the description fits him to a tee

yorkiecrazy · 10-03-2007, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy

He could still be a yorkie. There are a lot of yorkies that resemble silkies and are are larger. I believe there has also been a lot of mixing of yorkies and silkies and the puppies are being sold as yorkies

I agree with MyFairLacy.
IMO He looks like a yorkie to me. He is very cute.

daso · 10-03-2007, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkiecrazy

I agree with MyFairLacy.
IMO He looks like a yorkie to me. He is very cute.

The thing is silky are almost identical. Except longer and taller, all of his measurments fit a silky. But you guys could also be right, either way im happy

Chelsey · 10-04-2007, 12:37 AM

He is a cutie pie!

yorkieK9trainer · 10-04-2007, 12:43 AM

I've handled both breeds to a very large degree and in different avenues of competition and please let me honestly tell you that the dog you depict in your photos is NOT a silky. In fact, okay.....don't hate me for this, I'm just being honest since it's been brought up and you were curious, and it's only my opinion, he's simply a poorly bred Yorkie. I don't see anything that leans me towards a silky. If he's got Silky in him at all, it's back beyond three generations if I were to guess. Sorry you thought you had your little one pegged here, but I must give him credit for being a Yorkie! He's just not in proportion w/ the standard of a Yorkie, it happens TOO often, but they're Yorkies nonetheless.

I like his expression.

btw, his head piece is nothing of a Silky's head. Even a poorly bred one tends to have a different structure even than what your little guy has. I can procure photos for you if you'd like me to point out exactly what I'm seeing in your little guy and just why I'm saying he's not a Silky.

kelkiss5 · 10-04-2007, 01:03 AM

Hey Id like to see some pics if you dont mind. Id love to see the difference in the 2 breeds.

yorkieK9trainer · 10-04-2007, 01:11 AM

I'm going to bed, but I'll grab two off the internet right now before hand and point out some key differences so as to put some image depiction to the description of the two breeds so you can see that there actually is a big difference between these two breeds.

Then tomorrow if time permits, I'll be even more detailed as requested.

Give me a sec.......

yorkieK9trainer · 10-04-2007, 01:21 AM

Okay, I took these off of AKC.org.

The first two images are of the Silky Terrier while the last two are of the Yorkshire Terrier.

With them side by side like this (one being a drawing and the other being an actual photo of a current dog in competition) do you see the differences?

The structure is very different if you meet them in person. Even their movement is slightly different. The silky is not a square dog, whereas a Yorkie is/should be. The silky is noticeably a bigger dog also...still a small dog of course though. The biggest difference, besides in the coat and structure is in the head itself.

I'm reading what I've typed and I don't think I sound clear. I hope I do though! ha ha....*yawn*, okay my daughter is asleep now and I should follow suit. More tomorrow.

lara2913 · 10-04-2007, 02:05 AM

Looks like a yorkie to me.

autumn star · 10-04-2007, 04:22 AM

Personally I think he looks more like a yorkie then a silky. Either way he is very handsome!

Yorkiekids · 10-04-2007, 05:06 AM

He's a cutie no matter what he is.

10-03-2007, 06:01 PM	#1
daso Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Beverly Hills Posts: 105	WOW just WOW After reading a thread of a lady that wanted a dog either a yorkie or sliky terrier i was curious as I never heard of a silky terrier. And it totally blew me away. MY ROCKY IS A SILKY LOL All of the description fits him to a tee. Its incredible, I was always suspect his size and what not but I think all of you yorkie owners with a yorkie thats a little taller and bigger to investigate this. It fits my rocky exactly Pronunciation Silky Terrier Description The Silky Terrier, also called the Sidney Terrier, is a fine-boned, moderately low-set, long-haired terrier. It is compact but lightly built. It has erect, v-shaped ears and a docked tail. (Docking is illegal in some European Countries.) The head is flat and wide between the ears, with a shallow stop. The nose is black and the eyes are round and dark with a piercing expression. The teeth should form a scissors bite with a sturdy jaw. The body is slightly longer than tall with a level topline. The round, catlike feet are small and well-padded. Dewclaws should be removed. The coat is long, about 5-6 inches (12-15 cm). The fine, silky, shiny hair has no undercoat. It is very prone to tangles and mats unless frequently groomed. The coat should not reach the floor. The hair is parted down the center of the back. The coat comes in blue & fire red, or blue with tan markings. Many shades of blue are permitted. The topknot should be lighter in color than the tan points. Silky Terriers are born black. Temperament This loving, little terrier is very intelligent, courageous and alert. Affectionate, spunky cheerful and sociable, they like to be close to their master, but do not accept them to be a "mellow" lap dog. They are full of energy. Curious about everything, it is an enthusiastic digger. Active, keen and demanding. Smart and quick, though a bit willful as with most terriers. Despite its size, this docile dog is watchful and protective. Normally these dogs are very loving with children if they are raised with them, but they can be snappish if peeved and should not be rough-handled or teased. A hardy little fellow, it is a good dog to travel with. It makes an excellent watchdog, but can become a barker if not controlled. They are reserved with strangers and not generally trustworthy with other pets. Socialize them well with cats when they are still a puppy or they will chase them when they get older. Can get jealous and pick fights with other dogs. Training these dogs is very straight- forward because it is very eager to learn. Height, Weight Height: 9-10 inches (23-25 cm.) Females are generally smaller than the males. Weight: 8-11 pounds (4-5 kg.) Health Problems Generally healthy. Minor concerns are intervertebral disc disease, elbow dysplasia, patellar luxation and Legg-Perthes. This breed sometimes is afflicted with diabetes, epilepsy, tracheal collapse. Living Conditions The Silky Terrier is good for apartment life. They are very active indoors and will do okay without a yard. Exercise The Silky Terrier is full of energy. It has surprising stamina and will enjoy regular chances to run and play, however they will adapt to the family's circumstances. Life Expectancy About 12-15 years. Grooming The Silky Terrier is very prone to tangles and mats and needs daily combing and brushing. It should be bathed regularly to keep the hair in top condition. It takes quite a commitment from its owner, requiring about 15 minutes a day. After bathing, make sure the dog is thoroughly dry and warm. The coat must be trimmed occasionally, and the hair on the legs from the knees down is often trimmed short. The hair that falls over the eyes is tied up in a topknot so the dog will be able to see easier. The Silky Terrier sheds little to no hair. Origin The Silky Terrier was originally developed in 19th century Australia from other terrier breeds such as the Skye and Cairn but primarily the Australian Terrier and the Yorkshire Terrier. American servicemen stationed in Australia during World War II brought Silky Terriers home with them after the war. The breed was recognized by the AKC in 1959 and its standard was established in 1962 (and later updated in 1967). Though the Silky Terrier has always been primarily a companion dog, this swift little dog can catch domestic rodents. -------------------------- I still love the hell out of him and would not trade him for the world Attached Thumbnails

10-03-2007, 06:04 PM	#2
MyFairLacy Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 11,003	He could still be a yorkie. There are a lot of yorkies that resemble silkies and are are larger. I believe there has also been a lot of mixing of yorkies and silkies and the puppies are being sold as yorkies __________________ ~Magnifique Yorkies~ Purchasing from backyard breeders, pet shops, and puppymills perpetuates the suffering of other dogs. Educate yourself and buy from reputable breeders or rescue.

10-04-2007, 12:43 AM	#9
yorkieK9trainer YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North eastern Illinois Suburbs Posts: 1,669	I've handled both breeds to a very large degree and in different avenues of competition and please let me honestly tell you that the dog you depict in your photos is NOT a silky. In fact, okay.....don't hate me for this, I'm just being honest since it's been brought up and you were curious, and it's only my opinion, he's simply a poorly bred Yorkie. I don't see anything that leans me towards a silky. If he's got Silky in him at all, it's back beyond three generations if I were to guess. Sorry you thought you had your little one pegged here, but I must give him credit for being a Yorkie! He's just not in proportion w/ the standard of a Yorkie, it happens TOO often, but they're Yorkies nonetheless. I like his expression. btw, his head piece is nothing of a Silky's head. Even a poorly bred one tends to have a different structure even than what your little guy has. I can procure photos for you if you'd like me to point out exactly what I'm seeing in your little guy and just why I'm saying he's not a Silky. __________________ "Big things come in small packages" http://www.myspace.com/yorkiek9trainer Last edited by yorkieK9trainer; 10-04-2007 at 12:47 AM.

10-04-2007, 01:03 AM	#10
kelkiss5 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: ireland Posts: 660	Hey Id like to see some pics if you dont mind. Id love to see the difference in the 2 breeds. __________________ Missy Boots Betty

10-04-2007, 01:11 AM	#11
yorkieK9trainer YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North eastern Illinois Suburbs Posts: 1,669	I'm going to bed, but I'll grab two off the internet right now before hand and point out some key differences so as to put some image depiction to the description of the two breeds so you can see that there actually is a big difference between these two breeds. Then tomorrow if time permits, I'll be even more detailed as requested. Give me a sec....... __________________ "Big things come in small packages" http://www.myspace.com/yorkiek9trainer

10-03-2007, 06:05 PM	#3
dani23d YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 560	WOW! Congrats on your findings! By the way, where did you get such detailed descriptions? Wikipedia? I like how it goes into detail!

10-04-2007, 12:37 AM	#8
Chelsey My2Pearls Chelsey & Chanel YT Donator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: N Posts: 4,097	He is a cutie pie!

10-04-2007, 01:21 AM	#12
yorkieK9trainer YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North eastern Illinois Suburbs Posts: 1,669	Okay, I took these off of AKC.org. The first two images are of the Silky Terrier while the last two are of the Yorkshire Terrier. With them side by side like this (one being a drawing and the other being an actual photo of a current dog in competition) do you see the differences? The structure is very different if you meet them in person. Even their movement is slightly different. The silky is not a square dog, whereas a Yorkie is/should be. The silky is noticeably a bigger dog also...still a small dog of course though. The biggest difference, besides in the coat and structure is in the head itself. I'm reading what I've typed and I don't think I sound clear. I hope I do though! ha ha....yawn, okay my daughter is asleep now and I should follow suit. More tomorrow. Attached Thumbnails __________________ "Big things come in small packages" http://www.myspace.com/yorkiek9trainer

10-04-2007, 02:05 AM	#13
lara2913 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,920	Looks like a yorkie to me. __________________ Indy, Benjamin and Malachi There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face- Ben Williams

10-04-2007, 04:22 AM	#14
autumn star Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Long Island Posts: 6,095	Personally I think he looks more like a yorkie then a silky. Either way he is very handsome!

10-04-2007, 05:06 AM	#15
Yorkiekids Piper & Sebastian Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: florida Posts: 14,495	He's a cutie no matter what he is. __________________ Susan, Piper ,Harley & Suiki