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YorkieTime07 · 08-29-2007, 07:40 PM

I am so sorry that you have had to go thru this..but if it were me I would take her to court and ask for everything I spent from her cost, vet bills and punitive damages for emotional distress!!! Do you have a local tv station or reporter in your area that does human interest stories etc?? This definetly should be exposed!!! We have a reporter here in Ga that helps consumers who have been ripped off by businesses etc hopefully you have one in your area!!! I wish you the best of luck but I would be a real pit bull (excuse the pun) on this one!!!!

ImCKN · 08-29-2007, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ines3185lyorkie

NEED YOUR HELP!!!!!!! A breeder/seller sold me a yorkie little girl with a life threatening birth defect. After numerous treatments for infections and surgeries I had no choice but to put her to sleep this past August 23, 07. I have asked for my money back instead of a replacement puppy since this breeder has a bad reputation from what I have read in this message board and others. I have reported them to the Better Business Bureau, I have an attorney that I might use if forced. This matter could be resolved by returning the money I paid for her $1700.00. This money will be used to purchase a yorkie from a reputable breeder. This money is not including medical treatments, medicines and surgery. I also plan to contact the US Department of Agriculture, since they gave me a health certificate that my puppy was free of genetic and birth defects. I want suggestions as to other agencies or officials that I might report this breeder to, please let me know. I really appreciate it. In Memory of little yorkie girl, "NIKKI".

They are located in Miami, Florida and their name is Seaside Yorkies. Check out their website www.SeasideYorkies.com.

Please stay away and any suggestions on reporting them is appreciated.
(IF you feel more comfortable a private message is fine)
Ines Menendez

I am so sorry for what you have been through. Can you please share with me what you are looking for in a new puppy, and all about your family. If you have been reading Yorkie Talk much, you may know that my female gave birth to a litter of 7 puppies on 7-17-07. Maybe...well we would need to talk. I will PM you with my phone and if you would like to talk, please call me.

MGB · 08-29-2007, 09:58 PM

I'm so sorry this had to happen to both Nikki and your family. You should see if any local media will run your story. It might help with getting your money back. Good luck!

RIP Nikki

feminvstr · 08-29-2007, 10:09 PM

florida has a lemon law http://www.bcrescue.org/puppyregs.html

I am so sorry for your loss!

omichka · 08-30-2007, 06:48 AM

I am very sorry for your loss

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Originally Posted by puppy_Love08

I checked out the web site, and - wow. They SOUND so reputable! Makes me wonder if you can trust any breeder!

What is SO reputable? It is a typical example when bad breeder try to scam naive customers.

A few things why she is NOT reputable after looking her website:

- SHIPPING. reputable breeders don't ship puppies on regular basic. period. She has a regulated system seems like....
- she lie about standard, tea-cup, whatever (Standard ranges from 7 to 9 - bulls**t)
- her guarantee is not clear....
The breeder is not responsible for any vet bills or any other bill regarding this pup nor is seller responsible for damages, physical or emotional to the buyer's self or possessions and likewise to other individuals.

red flag # 1

- I guess she breeds maltese too, or her partners....

Actually, she did a good job for NAIVE customers. Her web has a lot of good informations, but everything is basic information. Not much about HER responsibilities....Too much words how good she is with not saying important details... IMXO.

Ines3185lyorkie · 08-30-2007, 07:25 AM

Because of this she had constant infections. Most of the food she ate went to her nose and created infections. She had trouble eating and drinking and would also seem to have a problem breathing when she got excited. She would gasp for air. The vet didn't diagnose her and she was on antibiotics, aerosol etc. for five months. He thought she just had kennel cough, pneumonia, you name it. It wasn't until I took her to a veterinary specialist that she had an endoscopy that we found out about her uncurable condition. He did an experimental surgery using tissue from her mouth to lenghthen the soft palate but it didn't take. He called us after we took her for the two week follow up and told us the bad news that there was nothing else that could be done for her. That the quality of her life would not be good, she would continue to get sicker. She couldn't remain on antibiotics for life, she was down to 3 1\2 lbs. Her bones could be felt when I held her. I couldn't have her continue suffering that way. We had no choice but to put her to sleep. It was a very tough decision and sometimes we second guess it. But it would have been selfish for us to have her with us keeping her in the sickly condition she was in. She will always be in our heart.

Ines3185lyorkie · 08-30-2007, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by omichka

I am very sorry for your loss

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What is SO reputable? It is a typical example when bad breeder try to scam naive customers.

A few things why she is NOT reputable after looking her website:

- SHIPPING. reputable breeders don't ship puppies on regular basic. period. She has a regulated system seems like....
- she lie about standard, tea-cup, whatever (Standard ranges from 7 to 9 - bulls**t)
- her guarantee is not clear....
The breeder is not responsible for any vet bills or any other bill regarding this pup nor is seller responsible for damages, physical or emotional to the buyer's self or possessions and likewise to other individuals.

red flag # 1

- I guess she breeds maltese too, or her partners....

Actually, she did a good job for NAIVE customers. Her web has a lot of good informations, but everything is basic information. Not much about HER responsibilities....Too much words how good she is with not saying important details... IMXO.

You are so right. Because of all the info on the website she comes across as a caring breeder. I never could talk to her and they have contacted me now because I am and will continue uncover their bad practices. I sent them 22 pages of my poor yorkies tests, medical procedures, surgeries and doctors visits. My little girl was only 1 year old. Come on. I am putting the word out on them so that others are not hurt by these greedy breeders.

lkyorkies · 08-30-2007, 07:49 AM

Every pup I looked at on this site was CKC registered...NOT AKC..how can she charge so much for pups that are not reconized by the american kennel club??? Plus there is no such thing as a teacup yorkie. The cert should tell you what they do guarantee and what they have checked them for. Most, breeders will not ship their babies.
This makes me so mad. I love my babies so much I can not imagine anyone doing this to some one else. You get so attached to them so quickly because they are so wonderful.
I agree that you need to file in court for all of you expenses.
I am truly sorry for all that you are going through. I will keep you in my prayers.
Good luck,
Laura, Max

, Lucy

& babies

omichka · 08-30-2007, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by lkyorkies

Every pup I looked at on this site was CKC registered...NOT AKC..how can she charge so much for pups that are not reconized by the american kennel club???

exactly !!! I noticed that too, just have forgotten to mention that...

on top of that, when breeder asks amount of money like that, potential customers should know the breed standard at least. All yorkies come in different colors/shapes. I mean there are a good quality yorkies (good body proportion, right silky coat accodring to standard, etc) and POOR quality yorkie. They both CUTE, but not same quality and CANNOT be charged SAME, if even they are cute. A lot of cute puppies in a shelters dying every day.

So customers should be smart

. If they pay amount of money over $1000, they should get a good quality yorkie (pet class). Not yorkie over 7 pounds with fluffy coats with pappilon's ears

(although they cute) or micro/tiny/whatever with hair that don't grow up....(they also cute)

IMXO.

omichka · 08-30-2007, 08:23 AM

Also, I always very suspicious re web sites like this because all puppies are represented as in window display, but you cannot see their parents at all.
Just wondering how they look like. I bet, not same....

Be careful when you check out similar webs. They made for a special reason - to impress customers (cute babies in cup/toy car, accessories).
That's human psychology: " look how cute they are, I want it...."

I communicated with very reputable breeders from YTCA and no one of them don't have web site like that. because they are not in business for profit...

JCarlson2004 · 08-30-2007, 08:38 AM

I'm so sorry for your loss.

lkyorkies · 08-30-2007, 08:02 PM

A good breeder is not in it to make money but, to better the breed and because they truly love these little babies.
My Lucy just had pups over the weekend and all I was worried about was making sure she would be alright and now I am not thinking of making a giant profit.
Also, when I bought her the breeder I got her from made me sign a contract that if for any reason I can never care for her that she is to be returned to her and that I will send her pictures of Lucy as she ages. I have sent her pics of the babies as well. This is what I consider a good breeder. She cares what happens to her pups even after they leave her care.

omichka · 08-31-2007, 07:10 AM

correct - a good breeder do cares about pups. if a breeder ships puppies "wordwide"

. be careful with breeders who ship puppies easily...Personally, I wouldn't run from them...

A good breeder is not in it to make money but, to better the breed and because they truly love these little babies.

IMXO, it is NOT responsible to have MORE dogs in this word. I respect only those breeders who try to improve breed because they love yorkie and care about them, who have a wishlist before they have a babies and carefully check future homes, who sell pet quality pippies with a spay/neutered contract...

Ines3185lyorkie · 08-31-2007, 07:36 AM

YOUR RIGHT ABOUT BAD BREEDERS..

Now they are trying to get out of giving me a refund by asking for paperwork that I already provided, death info and saying that they question wether my Nikki really had a congenital birth defect. I was just asking for the refund since I got another little girl from a reputable breeder. But I am thinking of taking them to court on ALL of the expenses that we paid from 12/06 to 8/23/07 date of her death and emotional distress. they seem to be willing to give me a replacement puppy without all the hardball playing but when it comes to money they are trying to make it difficult. That is alright. I don't work, have a friend who is an attorney and will go all the way. I just wanted to put it all behind me and start trying to ease the pain with a new puppy. Check out the website: www.seasideyorkies.com. Could you get another puppy if you were going to be scared thinking is this puppy going to get sick? We can't.
Hope it makes sense. I am also planning on starting a website to tell our story about them, got to get the story out.

Take care.

Ines

omichka · 08-31-2007, 08:00 AM

It is good idea about court. I saw on TV Judi (?), the owner received back all expenses, except what she asked for emotional distress. It didn't work out. Only bills

Anyway, good luck -)

08-29-2007, 07:40 PM	#16
YorkieTime07 Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: atlanta, ga Posts: 917	I am so sorry that you have had to go thru this..but if it were me I would take her to court and ask for everything I spent from her cost, vet bills and punitive damages for emotional distress!!! Do you have a local tv station or reporter in your area that does human interest stories etc?? This definetly should be exposed!!! We have a reporter here in Ga that helps consumers who have been ripped off by businesses etc hopefully you have one in your area!!! I wish you the best of luck but I would be a real pit bull (excuse the pun) on this one!!!! __________________ Nathan has a crush on Tatum!!!! The Gentlemens' Club is on the Run!! We're gonna Rock YT with some Fun!!!

08-29-2007, 10:09 PM	#19
feminvstr Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 4,398	florida has a lemon law http://www.bcrescue.org/puppyregs.html I am so sorry for your loss! __________________ Kimberly

08-30-2007, 07:25 AM	#21
Ines3185lyorkie Yorkies R Heaven Sent Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 580	NIKII..She had a short soft palate defect.. Because of this she had constant infections. Most of the food she ate went to her nose and created infections. She had trouble eating and drinking and would also seem to have a problem breathing when she got excited. She would gasp for air. The vet didn't diagnose her and she was on antibiotics, aerosol etc. for five months. He thought she just had kennel cough, pneumonia, you name it. It wasn't until I took her to a veterinary specialist that she had an endoscopy that we found out about her uncurable condition. He did an experimental surgery using tissue from her mouth to lenghthen the soft palate but it didn't take. He called us after we took her for the two week follow up and told us the bad news that there was nothing else that could be done for her. That the quality of her life would not be good, she would continue to get sicker. She couldn't remain on antibiotics for life, she was down to 3 1\2 lbs. Her bones could be felt when I held her. I couldn't have her continue suffering that way. We had no choice but to put her to sleep. It was a very tough decision and sometimes we second guess it. But it would have been selfish for us to have her with us keeping her in the sickly condition she was in. She will always be in our heart.

08-30-2007, 07:49 AM	#23
lkyorkies Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 159	Every pup I looked at on this site was CKC registered...NOT AKC..how can she charge so much for pups that are not reconized by the american kennel club??? Plus there is no such thing as a teacup yorkie. The cert should tell you what they do guarantee and what they have checked them for. Most, breeders will not ship their babies. This makes me so mad. I love my babies so much I can not imagine anyone doing this to some one else. You get so attached to them so quickly because they are so wonderful. I agree that you need to file in court for all of you expenses. I am truly sorry for all that you are going through. I will keep you in my prayers. Good luck, Laura, Max , Lucy & babies Last edited by lkyorkies; 08-30-2007 at 07:50 AM. Reason: spelling

08-30-2007, 08:38 AM	#26
JCarlson2004 Mommy To 3 Poochies Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New York Posts: 8,267	I'm so sorry for your loss. __________________ Mommy Loves Codie, Tia & Baby Cali RIP My Precious Katie - I Love You

08-29-2007, 09:58 PM	#18
MGB Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Manhattan Posts: 55	I'm so sorry this had to happen to both Nikki and your family. You should see if any local media will run your story. It might help with getting your money back. Good luck! RIP Nikki

08-30-2007, 08:23 AM	#25
omichka YT Addict Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: *** Posts: 332	Also, I always very suspicious re web sites like this because all puppies are represented as in window display, but you cannot see their parents at all. Just wondering how they look like. I bet, not same.... Be careful when you check out similar webs. They made for a special reason - to impress customers (cute babies in cup/toy car, accessories). That's human psychology: " look how cute they are, I want it...." I communicated with very reputable breeders from YTCA and no one of them don't have web site like that. because they are not in business for profit...

08-30-2007, 08:02 PM	#27
lkyorkies Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 159	A good breeder is not in it to make money but, to better the breed and because they truly love these little babies. My Lucy just had pups over the weekend and all I was worried about was making sure she would be alright and now I am not thinking of making a giant profit. Also, when I bought her the breeder I got her from made me sign a contract that if for any reason I can never care for her that she is to be returned to her and that I will send her pictures of Lucy as she ages. I have sent her pics of the babies as well. This is what I consider a good breeder. She cares what happens to her pups even after they leave her care.

08-31-2007, 07:10 AM	#28
omichka YT Addict Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: *** Posts: 332	correct - a good breeder do cares about pups. if a breeder ships puppies "wordwide" . be careful with breeders who ship puppies easily...Personally, I wouldn't run from them... A good breeder is not in it to make money but, to better the breed and because they truly love these little babies. IMXO, it is NOT responsible to have MORE dogs in this word. I respect only those breeders who try to improve breed because they love yorkie and care about them, who have a wishlist before they have a babies and carefully check future homes, who sell pet quality pippies with a spay/neutered contract... Last edited by omichka; 08-31-2007 at 07:14 AM.

08-31-2007, 07:36 AM	#29
Ines3185lyorkie Yorkies R Heaven Sent Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 580	Seaside Yorkies in Miami Florida.. YOUR RIGHT ABOUT BAD BREEDERS.. Now they are trying to get out of giving me a refund by asking for paperwork that I already provided, death info and saying that they question wether my Nikki really had a congenital birth defect. I was just asking for the refund since I got another little girl from a reputable breeder. But I am thinking of taking them to court on ALL of the expenses that we paid from 12/06 to 8/23/07 date of her death and emotional distress. they seem to be willing to give me a replacement puppy without all the hardball playing but when it comes to money they are trying to make it difficult. That is alright. I don't work, have a friend who is an attorney and will go all the way. I just wanted to put it all behind me and start trying to ease the pain with a new puppy. Check out the website: www.seasideyorkies.com. Could you get another puppy if you were going to be scared thinking is this puppy going to get sick? We can't. Hope it makes sense. I am also planning on starting a website to tell our story about them, got to get the story out. Take care. Ines Last edited by Ines3185lyorkie; 08-31-2007 at 07:38 AM.

08-31-2007, 08:00 AM	#30
omichka YT Addict Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: *** Posts: 332	It is good idea about court. I saw on TV Judi (?), the owner received back all expenses, except what she asked for emotional distress. It didn't work out. Only bills Anyway, good luck -)