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Old 06-18-2005, 04:31 AM   #1
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Folk's looking for a new puppy can get so wound up in the momment that thier common sense flies out the door. Every Yorkie puppy is cute in it's own way even the baby of the poorest quality. They all win your heart over and you want to have that puppy. They have to have a puppy right now. They fail to ask questions or they do not listen when the breeder is trying to tell them about the puppy. This is when the future Yorkie Mom or Dad is the most vunerable. This is when the not so honnest breeder hooks you.

Step back and take a deep breath. Ask that breeder if you can make a small deposit that is refundable for a few hours or overnight so that you can go home and think about it. If you have a good breeder they won't mind- they will respect you for thought. They want their baby to be placed in a home that will provide love and security.

As a breeder you need to listen to your client's wish list. Ask them what they are looking for and what they expect of you and the puppy. Listen very carefully to what they have to say. If a potential client brags about thier other puppy and what they paid for it- but the first words out of their mouth is "what will you knock off on your price" you better think twice. If they want a small puppy but fail to inform you they have rowdy children or a large dog you better think twice. If they do not know what they want- you better think twice. If they want the perfect Yorkie at a pet price - you better think twice.

I have had Yorkies for over 30 years. I have never had a puppy for sale not find a good home. The baby may not have sold when first advertised - but that is ok with me. I try to use my instincts. I try to match the baby with the right home. If a client asks me right off the get go to lower my price over the phone or internet knowing what the priced is I will not sell them a puppy. Over the years I have found that this the client that will not be happy with my puppy. If the client is not happy the puppy is not happy.

Breeders have feeling also- be honnest with your breeder. If you plan to breed in the future and may consider it tell the person. If you buy a puppy under 3 months of age you are taking a risk as to what the baby will be as an adult. If you are buying a 6 to 8 week old puppy you a taking a great risk as to what this baby will be. I wish I had a magic 8 ball and could look into the future for the puppies potential.

You have the right and duty to let folks know if a breeder is taking advantage of the public- but make sure that they are the problem and that you did not change your wants and expectations of the puppy.

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Your experince is much needed here...and please tell me how 30 years passed so quickly? I ask myself that question? LOL

I ask for a deposit two weeks before purchase, usually when the pup is 10 weeks and I have decided to let it go. You may come back and visit the puppy, if during the two weeks you change your mind, money is refunded in full. I have no desire to force anyone to take my pup if they have a change of heart or circumstances.
During this 2 weeks, perhaps longer period, the new owner makes a vet appt so puppy can go from my house to the vet. It gives lots of time to get ready and buy what is needed.
Pet stores thrive on the spur of the moment purchase.
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Excellent advice from both of you. Maggie's breeder sounds exactly like you. She will interview you, ask several questions, tell you about the breed and what to watch for, and get a deposit. You sign a contract upon taking your baby home. She guarantees her puppies for 2 years against health defects. She provides a schedule of shots and the dates that it needs to be completed by. At anytime you no longer want the puppie, she will buy it back. Should the puppy die, an autopsy must be performed, before she will refund any money.
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I would love to buy a pup from either one of you two conscientious breeders.
I know that your pups must be so well adjusted and lovable. I really admire your attitudes on raising and selling puppies. I wish I would have been so lucky to find breeders like the both of you.
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I do a one year health warranty of the kids. They leave my home with a certificate of health from the vet -regardless if they are shipped are going next door. The new owner has 7 days to take the puppy to vet of their choice for a physical at their expense. If the baby is determined medically unhealthy they can return the baby and get thier money back.

My vet does an excellent job with the health certificate. He does not want me back at his door asking why a health condition was overlooked on a baby that just went to the new owner. I do not give my own vaccinations I use the vet. This allows me to have another set of eyes to look at the puppy- at each worming or vaccination the baby gets a physical. I get a report on the heart/lungs, Ears, Eyes, Mouth/teeth/gums, Skin/coat, Gait, General T(Includes weight) and parasite exam with all abnormals indicated on the physical form. A copy of this is included in the package for the new owner.
I ask that they keep one and make a copy for thier vet. I also ask that the new parents use a good vet. Just beacuse you are a vet does not mean you are a good vet who stays up to date on what is happening in vet medicine.
There are three vets at my clinic. Dr St Peters is my gal- we will use one of the other vets on one exam just as a precaution to keep us on our toes. My vet also shows and breeds dogs- we are a good match. This clinic I use is assoc. with our state vet school and vets will complete their interships there.

My biggest health problem with kids that go home is the new owners. They will change their diet. They do not gradually change from the food I send home with the puppy over to the food they prefer to use. (Same thing goes for water) They will give the puppy too many treats or overstimulate the poor thing. I send home written directions I call daily for a week. I do the best that I can. Some folks just do not have common sense. You wonder
how they had two legged children that survived infancy.


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Some folks just do not have common sense. You wonder
how they had two legged children that survived infancy.




Thank you!! You just gave me my first laugh of the day!!
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Wnalegria,

I commend your breeding practices as well as your policies...
It would be wonderful if more people cared about the future
of thier babies placement and well being as much as you seem to.
One question though...in regard to the large dogs. Do you
prefer not to sell to people who have large dogs period or
were you stating that you want people to be upfront with
you that they have large dogs so that you can place a puppy
you feel would do better in that sort of situation? I would hope
that just because I have a Lab that wouldn't exclude me from
buying from what I feel is the best place possible...Also since I
have gotten my yorkie I have fallen head over heels for the breed
and I know already that in a year or so I will be looking to add
another to our home. Would you suggest to start looking now
to locate and interview breeders in my area in order to build a
relationship before the actual time I am ready to purchase? I
had thought about doing that but I didn't want anyone to think
I was a spazz in pre-planning. Do you yourself welcome such
contacts with potential customers? Thank you in advance for
your thoughts....
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Good advice from you, breeders...et al. I meet every member of the household and that includes any animals that I am not allergic to. I want to meet the other dogs . I have no problem telling someone they and my puppy are not a match..I have concerns about smokers-so, if you smoke, I WILL smell it, believe me. I want to see how family relates to each other. Family dynamics say a lot. After at least 1 phone interview, one visit to my home which may or may not include the animals, which will require another interview..I have found that few people are dishonest, but there are some who are. I don't take deposits. I send the perspective buyer away for a cooling off period before they leave with a puppy..I mean, what's not to like about a Yorkie puppy?
rnnw, absolutely, start building a relationship in your area. Go to shows or go to interview breeders who have ads somewhere. Learn how to be a good breeder interviewer and what the breeder should ask YOU...we can write and post but in the long run, you have to do your homework. This is a great place to start since there are some breeders on here..JMHO
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WOW!! Love this thread! Such wonderful advice hare! I have been lucky to have never run into a bad breeder or broker but the breeders on here are top notch for sure and we can learn a lot. Are all three of you YTCA members?

If so, why, if not, why not?
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Excellent! What wonderful breeders we have on here!!!!!!!
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Excellent! What wonderful breeders we have on here!!!!!!!

Being owned by a whole pack of Yorkies is a wonderful way to live your life..So much of the time, when we are with our babies, we don't need people. IMO
Yorkies don't have a hidden agenda-they either like you or they don't. I like being liked by them!!!!!!
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A very inciteful thread!! You are very experienced and I appreciate you sharing this information with us.
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A very inciteful thread!! You are very experienced and I appreciate you sharing this information with us.
Not to correct your grammar Kimberley, but I don't want you to get hammered for accusing anyone of "inciting" anything! lol. I think you meant "insightful".

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Not to correct your grammar Kimberley, but I don't want you to get hammered for accusing anyone of "inciting" anything! lol. I think you meant "insightful".

You're right! OOPS, MY BAD!!! It's been a LONG day!!!!
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Good advice from you, breeders...et al. I meet every member of the household and that includes any animals that I am not allergic to. I want to meet the other dogs . I have no problem telling someone they and my puppy are not a match..I have concerns about smokers-so, if you smoke, I WILL smell it, believe me. I want to see how family relates to each other. Family dynamics say a lot. After at least 1 phone interview, one visit to my home which may or may not include the animals, which will require another interview..I have found that few people are dishonest, but there are some who are. I don't take deposits. I send the perspective buyer away for a cooling off period before they leave with a puppy..I mean, what's not to like about a Yorkie puppy?
rnnw, absolutely, start building a relationship in your area. Go to shows or go to interview breeders who have ads somewhere. Learn how to be a good breeder interviewer and what the breeder should ask YOU...we can write and post but in the long run, you have to do your homework. This is a great place to start since there are some breeders on here..JMHO
I am glad you mentioned smokers because I have wanted to mention this myself.
Yes I am an ex-smoker who survived a lung disease that almost took my life.
Even when I smoked (4 cigarettes a day) I smoked outside to protect my children from second hand smoke. I worry about pets with the effects from second hand smoke. It bothers me when a smoker will pet Mya and she then smells like an ashtray. Ewwwwwwww. I saw woman in a car, windows rolled up smoking away with a chihuahua in the car with her. At a red light I saw her put out the cigarette and light another one. That poor dog !!!
If I were ever to breed Mya I would not give up a puppy to a smoker. I used to hear people say that "you have to die sometime" when it comes to smoking, my response after my experience is .....yah but you don't count on the long suffering part. *grin*
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