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Old 08-20-2007, 05:42 PM   #1
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Milo has been play biting since I got him, but recently it's been getting really bad. When he bites, it hurts and I yell "ouch" or "no" and my boyfriend usually growls at him :P But tonight when I yelled at him, he completely turned on me and was getting really violent. He started growling and biting really hard. It was almost like he was trying to dominate. I don't know how to stop him from doing it. We've tried the yelling, putting him on time-out, ignoring him, giving him toys instead of our hands and nothing is working.
Has anyone had this problem? If so, how did you deal with it?
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When he gets aggressive like that, you can try to lay him on his back and don't let him get up. Saw that on the Dog Whisperer once. You need to establish to him that you are the "head of your pack".
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I would either lay him on his back or scruff him.
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When he gets aggressive like that, you can try to lay him on his back and don't let him get up. Saw that on the Dog Whisperer once. You need to establish to him that you are the "head of your pack".
Is there a specific way that I can do that? Because I did that tonight and he was just yelping and trying to bite more even though I wasn't hurting him
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I would either lay him on his back or scruff him.
How do you mean by scruffing him? I wish I knew why he's doing this. I think he was not handled as much as he should have been as a baby maybe.
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When he gets aggressive like that, you can try to lay him on his back and don't let him get up. Saw that on the Dog Whisperer once. You need to establish to him that you are the "head of your pack".
this is what i have done with maggie. I lay her on her back and hold her by her chest so that she cannot get up and cannot bite. you just have to find a hold that works for you but you have to make them totally submit to you. and while i am holding her down, i say "bad" in a stern voice.

also, when he bites but is not being aggressive...just playing...i wouldn't think you need to put him on his back then...just when he is acting aggressive. when he is playing, hold his muzzle shut (momma dog would sometimes do this) and say "no bite" very sternly. very sternly. every single time he does it. he will learn what "no bite" means. and he will not like having his muzzle held shut. maggie learned very quickly what "no bite" means. all i have to do is start to say it to her and she immediately either turns away or starts to give me kisses...as if to say "i'm sorry mommy".

it's all about establishing dominance. you have to be the "alpha" and once he realizes that you are...you can both live in peace LOL
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when he is acting aggressive. when he is playing, hold his muzzle shut (momma dog would sometimes do this) and say "no bite" very sternly. very sternly. every single time he does it. he will learn what "no bite" means. and he will not like having his muzzle held shut. maggie learned very quickly what "no bite" means. all i have to do is start to say it to her and she immediately either turns away or starts to give me kisses...as if to say "i'm sorry mommy".

it's all about establishing dominance. you have to be the "alpha" and once he realizes that you are...you can both live in peace LOL
Actually my boyfriend does that sometimes... Holding his muzzle I mean, but I wasn't sure if that was good or bad to do. Because when he does this, Milo starts crying and yelping like he's in pain even though he's not. Although when my boyfriend does that, or yells and growls at him, Milo lays on his back right away by himself and gives him "sorry kisses". But he doesn't do it with me. It's almost like he recognizes that my boyfriend has authority but not me, even though he's my dog
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What i mean by scruffing is grab the skin on the back of his neck like his mom would do and hold him up, tell him no and hold him there until he calms down
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What i mean by scruffing is grab the skin on the back of his neck like his mom would do and hold him up, tell him no and hold him there until he calms down
I will try that as well, thanks... but just wondering if this hurts him. When we've held him like that before, he's screamed and yelped like he was in pain, but he does that when we do something he doesn't like as well.
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I will try that as well, thanks... but just wondering if this hurts him. When we've held him like that before, he's screamed and yelped like he was in pain, but he does that when we do something he doesn't like as well.
make sure your not holding too awful tight, or it probably will hurt. but sometimes they scream because they don't like what you are doing...not because it hurts. you will learn to recognize his "cries"

if he is "submitting" to your bf, then he needs to be submitting to you as well. take the dominate role with him. if need be, tell your bf to step back a bit and let you do it...so that milo knows that both of you are in control, not just your bf
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make sure your not holding too awful tight, or it probably will hurt. but sometimes they scream because they don't like what you are doing...not because it hurts. you will learn to recognize his "cries"

if he is "submitting" to your bf, then he needs to be submitting to you as well. take the dominate role with him. if need be, tell your bf to step back a bit and let you do it...so that milo knows that both of you are in control, not just your bf
I will do try to be more dominant with him, thanks for the advice. Our great dane Kevin was more submissive to my boyfriend as well. He would rarely listen to me. Is it true that dogs are more submissive with men?
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I will do try to be more dominant with him, thanks for the advice. Our great dane Kevin was more submissive to my boyfriend as well. He would rarely listen to me. Is it true that dogs are more submissive with men?
i think all dogs are different. or maybe it is that all men are different LOL i know all of our dogs are more submissive to me...they dont' listen to my hubby AT ALL!!!!!!!!! he can sit and tell them to go outside a hundred times. they will stare at him like he has 6 heads. as soon as i even begin to say "go outside" they take off. LOL

but i am very stern with our dogs. i am EXTREMELY loving..even more than my husband...A LOT MORE...but I have my boundaries and they know it. they know that when i tell them to do something, they are going to do it no matter how bad they don't want to.

i wish i could train my daughter as well as i have trained my dogs LOL
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I tried something that I read in "Yorkshire Terriers for Dummies", and it worked great with Jake. When he would start biting, I would make a loud "YELP" just like they do when they get hurt. That would get his attention, so I would say "NO" very firmly. I never raise my voice at him, I just talk stern and firm. Raising your voice only makes them more excitable or scares them. After I say NO, I put him down and ignore him for 2 min. and then I would give him a toy or something that he's allowed to chew on. After a few times of me doing this, he stopped biting.

For toe biting, I sprayed a tiny amount of Bitter Apple on my feet. Jake HATES that stuff! I sprayed it on various things I didn't want him chewing on, and we never had a problem with him chewing anything in the house. All I'd have to do is get the bottle of Bitter Apple out, and he would run.

Make sure to provide lots of toys and chewies. Bully sticks are great!

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i think all dogs are different. or maybe it is that all men are different LOL i know all of our dogs are more submissive to me...they dont' listen to my hubby AT ALL!!!!!!!!! he can sit and tell them to go outside a hundred times. they will stare at him like he has 6 heads. as soon as i even begin to say "go outside" they take off. LOL

but i am very stern with our dogs. i am EXTREMELY loving..even more than my husband...A LOT MORE...but I have my boundaries and they know it. they know that when i tell them to do something, they are going to do it no matter how bad they don't want to.

i wish i could train my daughter as well as i have trained my dogs LOL
LOL... I wish I had that kind of authority over dogs. I really know nothing about training them. Milo is the first puppy I've had, so I'm pretty clueless. I'm going to try everything that was suggested and hopefully it'll work. It's really not pleasant having a dog who's a biter
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For toe biting, I sprayed a tiny amount of Bitter Apple on my feet. Jake HATES that stuff! I sprayed it on various things I didn't want him chewing on, and we never had a problem with him chewing anything in the house. All I'd have to do is get the bottle of Bitter Apple out, and he would run.

Make sure to provide lots of toys and chewies. Bully sticks are great!

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I think I might have to do the same thing for toe biting because he does that quite a bit. I will try not raising my voice because I think you are right... he just barks back when I yell at him.
What are bully sticks by the way?
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