Pet Registrations

[scrapindee]

Do you care whether your pet-only dog is registered with a recognizable registry (AKC, UKC, IBC) or is any registry acceptable to you?

We had an interesting discussion last week about getting your puppy's papers when that was part of your purchase; got to thinking about whether any registry will do?

This would include any of us who purchase other dogs besides Yorkies (I know there are a few other breed owners on this forum. I have an AKC registered Havanese--he is neutered but it was important to me that he be AKC registered.)

What's your thoughts?

[Sugar's Mom]

never had a dog of any kind that wasn't AKC and never will. personal choice. When I am looking for a dog to purchase, I look close at the registry.

[YorkieRose]

It all depends...if someone I knew had a healthy litter of Yorkies with no papers AND all I want was a reasonably price pet..then I would buy it.

If I want a breed/show dog, then AKC is the only registry I will deal with...

[Suzy]

I spayed both my dogs, and AKC was the only thing I accepted. AKC is the best way to ensure your dog is purebred, and that's what I wanted.

[MyFairLacy]

The only registries I think are reputable in the US are AKC and UKC. The others are basically there to register anything else that can't be registered with AKC or UKC and so that people can still claim that their puppies are "registered". There are so many crappy registries out there that don't mean a thing and will register any dog - whether it is a mixed breed or purebred.

Lacy is not AKC registered - she is registered with a registry that isn't worth anything to me. The only reason I even sent in the paperwork was just to have it. At the time I got Lacy I just wanted a puppy so bad and didn't really care what she was registered with. From now on though I plan to only buy AKC registered puppies.

[BamaFan121s]

Personally, I guess it depends on the preference of each individual and what their plans for their dog(s) is.

[Suzy]

Funny this came up and I just posted...Just checked the mail, and we just got Milli's papers today!

[YorkieRose]

I saw a little Yorkie a few weeks ago in Petsmart...it was really cute. Cutiest I have seen since I moved here..The owner said she got it for $600, no papers..it was 9 months and 3 pounds, cute as a button, little ears, silk coat ..shoot, I would have bought it myself for a pet!

[AngEngland]

I just got my Yorkie and she was offered only with APRI application. I was going to turn her down despite her awesome looks and obvious health until they said she was AKC eligible as well. We have her home now pending the AKC finalization. I've already been in direct contact with the breeder about it so am confident.

It was very important to me for my Yorkie becuase I want to be able to show conformation and agility.

For our kids beagle - not so much. :-) For our lab-mix pound puppy resuced doggie - not even an option!

But having the AKC designation does lend a credibility to the puppy which is why we wanted that option.

Angela <><

[alex_143]

my baby has no papers i wish she did though....

[Gracie2006]

I feel that any breeder who cares enough to breed AKC registered dogs so they can have AKC eligible puppies is more than a fly by night BYB. I might be wrong, but I am hoping that the AKC means no congenital health problems and a guarantee that I got what I paid for, a pure bred dog.

[Toby'sMama]

Originally Posted by scrapindee

Do you care whether your pet-only dog is registered with a recognizable registry (AKC, UKC, IBC) or is any registry acceptable to you?

We had an interesting discussion last week about getting your puppy's papers when that was part of your purchase; got to thinking about whether any registry will do?

This would include any of us who purchase other dogs besides Yorkies (I know there are a few other breed owners on this forum. I have an AKC registered Havanese--he is neutered but it was important to me that he be AKC registered.)

What's your thoughts?

Kind of an apples and oranges thing going on here... Of course, the most recognized registries here in America are AKC and UKC -- and at least in the past, they were very respected registries. Unfortunately, you can get puppymill dogs who are AKC registered now (I don't know about UKC) and I'm sure you know that a lot of puppymill dogs aren't always "top quality" dogs. Also there are many "Breeders/Greeders" who know they can charge more money if they have AKC registries... whether the dog is quality or not...

Now, you throw in the initials IBC and the majority of people here in America don't have a clue what that is. Obviously to those who know, it's a German registry that a lot of Biewers are registered under. As far as the quality of dogs and respect of the registry, we Americans can pretty much only go on what other people tell us -- and there are very differing opinions, both here and in Germany. From what I've heard, there are several registries in Germany that will register the Biewers -- and I'm sure some are like our "other" registries over here in the good old U.S. And some are like our AKC and UKC registries over here. I believe Michael brought up several in another thread earlier...

"DRV, DHS , ERV , WRV, DRS and there are many many other Clubs"

Lots of initials that don't mean a whole lot to us Americans, right? Far be it from me to throw stones at those initials when I don't know shinola about them... got to go to the Germans and find out from them, right!

As far as a pet registration? Well, my first yorkie was supposed to be AKC -- but I never sent in the papers. She was 5 lbs, didn't have the attitude to show, but had bad knees and I didn't have a clue about confirmation back then, so to me she was perfect! Didn't need the paper for me to love her! Now with Toby -- he was advertised as AKC... he's 6.5 pounds, definitely has the attitude for the ring, has bad knees, and used to have 1 floppy ear that in the past couple of months has gone up... and I've been told he has pretty good confirmation. Again, I never sent in the papers... didn't need the paper for me to love him! Sneaker's breeder was probably on the verge of a wannabe puppymill -- or just a breeder that had a whole lot of dogs and was out to make money. Toby's breeder was a backyard or hobby breeder. Had 4 dogs that I saw in her house. Were they show/breed quality -- NO. But they were AKC... hmmm -- does it really matter???

Well... you asked for "my thoughts" and here they are...

[junior_ruthie]

My male is AKC regestered and my female is ACA regesterd. My female has had 3 litter of puppies and I have regestered them all with the ACA. They are purebreed yorkies and to be honest I didnt realize it made a difference where they were regestered, not that it has mattered to anyone that has bought one of my puppies. They are in good health, I make sure they get their shots and are checked by my vet before I ever sell any of them. They are adorable and by the way one is a chocolate which I have learned from this site is not considered acceptable by some breeders.

[scrapindee]

Well it seems like it is going to matter where one is allowed to show their dogs. If one is into shows and showing, especially rare breeds like the Biewer. But since you personally are not showing , are you saying it wouldn't matter if every club offers their own registry. Sort of depreciates having a registered dog, in my humble opinion.

[Toby'sMama]

Originally Posted by scrapindee

Well it seems like it is going to matter where one is allowed to show their dogs. If one is into shows and showing, especially rare breeds like the Biewer. But since you personally are not showing , are you saying it wouldn't matter if every club offers their own registry. Sort of depreciates having a registered dog, in my humble opinion.

You're right... as someone posted earlier -- it depends on what you're planning to do. Would you buy an APRI dog if you are planning on showing it in AKC shows? If you're going to breed or show, you will choose the dog's registry based on that. From what I have heard from several German sources, the clubs honor each other's registries (or at least many do) As I'm not privy to the resources in Germany, I don't know if they have ACA, APRI, etc., type of clubs, that are not allowed to show. No I do not show. But don't put words in my mouth -- no where did I even address the point of whether it matters or not "if every club offers their own registry." Are my dogs "depreciated" because they weren't registered AKC? Would you say that my dogs are "depreciated" because I have them neutered? They obviously can't be shown... Sorry, but whether they are papered/registered or not... neutered or not... I don't need anyone to validate their worth to me!

Just to point out... the title of this thread was "Pet" Registrations... so are you talking about "Pets" or "Showing/Breeding" stock?