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07-07-2007, 07:22 PM | #1 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: california
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| Anyone heard or bought from Coyle Kennels I am looking at a male yorkie from there but I was wondering if anyone have heard of them if they are reputable? |
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07-07-2007, 08:55 PM | #2 |
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| I haven't heard of them before, but I looked at their website and they seem to be reputable. It says on there that they show so I'm sure they are a good breeder. Just be sure to ask a lot of questions. Maybe someone else knows more about them
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07-07-2007, 09:01 PM | #3 |
No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: usa
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| I have never heard of them, but you may get more responses if you post your question in the "Breeder, Vet and Groomer Reviews" section. I wish you the best of luck in your search for a yorkie! |
07-07-2007, 09:56 PM | #4 |
Kodi & Pixie 2 Donating Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: NEBRASKA
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| Welcome :) No But I do Want to Say welcome to YT and I hope you find a wonderful little fury butt to be your forever baby Ask Lots of ???? and make sure you get at least a 1 yr health guarantee. here are some good Questions to ask the breeder -- Do you have the parents on site? May I see them? This is a bit of a trick question. You should always be able to see the mother -- unless she died giving birth -- but reputable breeders often don't have the father on hand. That's because the best match for any particular dog may be owned by another breeder, and the female was sent away for breeding. As for the mother, she may be a little anxious with strangers around her puppies, but on her own you want to see a well-socialized, calm and well-mannered dog. So, too, should be the rest of the breeder's dogs. If you don't like the temperaments of a breeder's grown dogs, what makes you think you'll get a good temperament in one of the puppies? -- What are the good and bad points of the parents, and what titles do they have? You may be looking for a pet-quality purebred, but you still want to buy from someone who knows what top-quality examples of the breed are -- and uses such animals in a breeding program. You want to see show and working titles all over that pedigree. It doesn't matter if you go home and throw that fine pedigree in a drawer. Recent titles on both sides of a pedigree are the sign of a breeder who's making a good-faith effort to produce healthy dogs who conform to the breed standard. -- Where were these puppies raised? How have you socialized them? "In the house" is the best answer to the first question. You want a puppy who knows what the dishwasher sounds like, whom you don't have to peel off the ceiling when a pan drops, who has set a paw on linoleum, carpet and tile. Environmental socialization is important, but so, too, is the intentional kind. The best breeders make sure puppies have been handled by adults of both genders and by children. -- What guarantees do you provide? You want to see a contract explaining the breeder's responsibilities should the puppy develop a congenital ailment. In most cases, such contracts state either replacement with a new puppy or refunding of your purchase price. The contract also states your responsibilities, such as neutering your pet. You may also be required to return the dog to the breeder if you can no longer keep him. Such language is the sign of a concerned and responsible breeder. Read and discuss the paperwork with the breeder. The best breeders offer contracts that protect not only the buyer and seller, but also the most vulnerable part of the transaction: the puppy. |
07-08-2007, 04:02 AM | #5 |
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| They do not look like reputable breeders and they do not show. They had one dog that they sold who was shown... |
07-08-2007, 04:09 AM | #6 | |
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07-08-2007, 05:19 AM | #7 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: california
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| Thank you so much . Your information is very helpful as I am a first time buyer and want to find a healthy loving baby. Thank you again all. |
07-08-2007, 05:42 AM | #8 |
My Angels Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Colorful Colorado
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| I have never heard of them but DaisyMae gave you some great tips and questions to ask. They look like they have a few decent dogs and it does look like they are showing one at least. They are selling a sold gold stud for 3500.00 tho? That seems a bit off. NOt even the correct color and alot of money. Anyway, do your homework and go check them out first. |
07-08-2007, 06:50 AM | #9 |
Little Boogers Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: virginia beach, va
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| good luck to you. i have to disagree with one statement that was being said here. this is "jmo" if you don't see champions all over the pedigree, that does not mean it is a poor quality yorkshire terrier. you can still get a great standard of the breed with out this. having champion in the pedigree for "some" (not all) is just a selling point to increase the value of the dog. i have seen champions throw out some not so great quality of the standard yorkies but this doesn't mean it isn't a wonderful loving pet. a breeder sees faults in their sires and dams and tries to improve these faults to keep the integrity of the yorkshire terrier breed. i was having a hard time trying to put my thoughts down so i hope i did not offend anyone. yes, champion in the pedigree is wonderful but if it is a good reputable breeder who strives to improve the breed and its health, you should not say "no" to the breeder just because their is no champions in the pedigree.
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07-08-2007, 07:06 AM | #10 | |
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I have been a mobile pet dog groomer for 16 years. Of the few purebreds that I do pet grooming as much of my clientel is crosses, whether the dog is purebred Yorkies Havanese, Bichons,cockers etc I always know when that registered purebred pet dog has come from a reputable show breeder and when it hasn't. The quality even for a pet is wonderful where the quality on average from a non show breeder is poor. But to know what you are looking at you have to know yourself coat, conformation etc. Any dog can be cute including crosses but in purebreds, there is a lot more to it than that. JMO but based on experience and what I have seen professionally in 16 years. Even the pet people that bought pups from me in the past can see the difference in their Yorkie and the ones out there that were bought from byb's and non show breeders. | |
07-08-2007, 07:12 AM | #11 | |
Little Boogers Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: virginia beach, va
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i absolutly agree with you but what i was saying, some people have champions in their pedigree but are not show breeders. they use this "champion bloodline" as a selling tool. this is what people need to watch out for. i totally agree with you and like i said above, i was having a hard time writing my thoughts down and trying not to offend anyone. i have the upmost respect for all show breeders. i have learned so much from all of you here and am very thankful i have you to learn from.
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07-08-2007, 07:17 AM | #12 |
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| First, welcome to YT! After looking at their web site, I can tell you, these people are not show breeders! People that exhibit do not breed for "tinies", Also, wayyyyy overpriced! You can actually get a puppy from a reputable breeder/exhibitor for much less on a limited registration. You also still have to be careful. Just because a person may show a couple of dogs, does not immediately make them reputable. As with all breeders, you must carefully research. A lot of people advertise, "Champion lines" which means basically nothing, since most are just saying there are champions somewhere in the pedigree, be it 6 generations back....Research, research...and ask all the questions people have posted. Good luck in your search. Hope you find just what you are looking for.
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07-08-2007, 07:28 AM | #13 | |
Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California
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You are totally right about using the Champions in the pedigree as a selling tool. What is sad is the unsuspecting public will buy it. Especially when they aren't familiar with Pedigrees and Kennels. The Champion will be 5, 6 generations back. The unqualified breeder will not know how to use a good dog in breeding it, unaware that having that good dog 5, 6 generations back will do them no good
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07-08-2007, 04:41 PM | #14 | |
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Pups that I deem pet quality and sell spay neutered can have more than 50% of Champions in the five generation pedigree but I consider it a pet and sold it as such. Meanwhile other litter mates, same pedigree are show quality or show potentials and i have kept them. BUt (hopefully) I have a good enough eye to know which is what and dont' sell that pet puppy as a show dog to some unsuspecting newcomer or someone that doesn't know. | |
07-08-2007, 05:10 PM | #15 |
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| The reason I thought they did show their dogs was because of this statement about their recent little of six born: "They are beautiful, black and tan silk coats with definite show potential! I did just realize I was looking at their old site and just looked at their newer site. They have some pretty dogs and some of them are pictured being shown. So I don't know if they show or not...I guess you'll just have to ask the breeders yourself. As for breeding tinies, it did not appear to me that they breed for tinies. It said they occasionally have tinies. It also said under one of the females that she tends to have tiny puppies and that she's due in July and are hoping to get a female large enough to keep for breeding from her. So I really don't think they are neccessarily trying for tinies
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