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04-26-2007, 02:17 PM | #1 |
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| Dog Whisperer, Full of s*** or right on?? Just wondering what people think of Cesar Milan, the "Dog Whisperer"? More specifically, I was wondering how often people walk their dogs and for how long because this seems to be something he really focuses on. I used to be a HUGE fan until I got my first dog, my Tobey who is 5 months now. Now I feel like a lot of the things on his show don't apply.....wondering what other's thoughts are??? I have also read his book, I got it the day after we got Tobey when he was just 8 wks old. thoughts on the book are welcome too. |
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04-26-2007, 02:32 PM | #2 |
Luvin' 6 Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bryan/College Station, TX
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| I have seen quite a few of his shows and have to say that some of the things he teaches are really good, one of things I do disagree with is the whole "dogs are not people and you shouldn't treat them as so" because I surely treat my little babies as if I bore them myself and that will never change I don't care who tries to tell me otherwise. |
04-26-2007, 02:36 PM | #3 |
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| I think his method is good depending on the type of dog you have. Some of the dogs he works w/are very violent and need some one like him. I don't think he is for everybody. Some people just don't want to see their babies be treated the way he can sometimes treat them. I don't agree when he says that dogs should always be on the floor. |
04-26-2007, 02:41 PM | #4 | |
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04-26-2007, 02:49 PM | #5 |
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| I have his book and two of his DVDs and I think for the most part he has good ideas but walking my two dogs for the time he suggest would give them both heat stroke here in Florida!!!!! And I keep both of them in full coat so it would just be too hard on them to do the walking thing. I do belive in the "packleader" rule...........I love my babies but they are in my pack and know their position with me. On the otherhand, my husband can not master the packleader position and they do not listen to him as well. I think he has some good points and some points that I do not agree with but if you find something is useful and working for YOU PERSONALLY, then I feel use it. I can't say I do the "exercise, discipline, affection" in that order but it's not like I have that big a problem with them either. The only problem I have is the aggression my little Toby has with other dogs and so I purchased his DVD on aggression and I will see how he suggests to remedy or improve this behavior. Toby is not aggressive with his sister Kallie, just with other dogs he is not familiar with. So we'll see what he has to say.
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04-26-2007, 02:58 PM | #6 |
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| Morkie4 , I agree with you when you say when you find something is useful than use it . I have the videos and I adapted some of the methods to my Yorkies and it worked wonderfully . |
04-26-2007, 03:19 PM | #7 |
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| I believe he has a very good understanding of dogs and their language. And I totally agree that it is usually not the dog that has the problem, that it is the people. He says not to treat your dogs like people. I believe that we need to set boundaries and limitations just as we do for children. I like the think of them as small people with a language barrier. and it is my responsibility to figure out how to get the message across to them in terms that they will understand. And for that purpose, if you look at his methods, they work wonderful. But I have never tried to use his methods to correct a behavior issue. I must just be one of those people who assumes the role as pack leader automatically and the dogs respect that I am the boss. |
04-26-2007, 03:25 PM | #8 |
Gabor Galore Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Illinois
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| Ok - that statement cracked me up b/c I've said the same thing before. I feel like if I could just understand the language my girls and I would not have some of the misunderstandings we have.
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04-26-2007, 03:29 PM | #9 |
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| I have mixed feelings on his methods. First, I would never pull up on a collar when it comes to small dogs. I think harnesses are best. Next, his belief is dogs are dogs and should be treated as such. I think dogs are as different in behavior and personality as people, and we need to find what works for the individual dog. I tried one of his methods on my Rottie and got bit in the face. Not good! I'll stick with Tamar Gellers methods. She uses a very gentle approach that works, and the dogs she trains seem much happier than do Cesars. Just my take on it all and not to open a debate. |
04-26-2007, 06:45 PM | #10 | |
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Just yesterday, I saw Tamar on Oprah and must say I was impressed. She made a lot of sense and has a different approach than Cesar Millan. It's probably a good idea to pick and choose different methods to see which works best for you and your dogs.
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04-26-2007, 06:56 PM | #11 |
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| I am positive the "seal" sound anck works that Tamar Gellers talked about. My breeder used this, I had the opportunity to see it in action a couple of times when the doggies would get a little rowdy and she only had to say it once or twice and they would calm down. I use it with Stella when she's getting into things she shouldn't and she stops whatever she's doing and finds a toy instead. |
04-26-2007, 10:08 PM | #12 |
Donating YT 11K Club Member | I have seen his show a few times and as I agree with some of his tactics but sometimes I think he is too rough with the dogs. But his dogs are all big so I don't really know....they might need someone stronger to discipline them. |
04-27-2007, 10:19 AM | #13 |
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| ive only seen whats on the website, and what i can see on you tube, but i think the rules boundries and limitation stuff is right on. i think hes brilliant. not so much of a whisperer as just showing them whos boss. a trained dog is a happy dog, they know what their job is... you can see the confusion in the untrained dogs eyes, they dont know what there supposed to be doing.
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04-27-2007, 02:37 PM | #14 |
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| GO Dog Whisperer! I Love Ceasar Milan, I have his DVD and I've seen every episode of his Show and I would like to go to one of his Seminars, if I ever got a chance to go? B/c they are all booked solid for up to a year in advance! I walk my Pack of 3 Yorkies, twice a day for 30-45 min. depending on my schedule? One walk is done off-leash @ the Dog Park where they do what they want (within reason and safety of course) and their evening walk is on-leash around the Neighborhood or our Local Lake/Pond. I think it's very important! But he has admitted on every episode that had a Yorkie on it that they are more difficult b/c of their size and ego, compared to a larger dog. I think his "Strong Arm" techniques work better on other Breeds. I do follow his formula of; Discipline before Affection. I don't have any problems with mine and they are a 3 yr. old male, Artie and a 2 yr. old female, Abigail and their female baby Tiffany Aloha w/c is 8 mos. old. Good Luck! |
04-27-2007, 04:46 PM | #15 |
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| Cesar's Way I too feel that some of the "tactics" are rough and they match well with some of the larger breed of dogs. I also use a harness when walking my Pyp but I do endorse the exercise and activity. My guy (2 yrs old) gets to run and fetch outdoors in the local park and would continue like an ever-ready yorkie if I do not monitor the time! It does seem that an "exercised" dog is more receptive and (in my case) happy.
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