Please be careful when searching for a breeder - YorkieTalk.com Forums

jazzybaby · 10-31-2004, 09:00 AM

Hi everyone. I wanted to share my recent experience with you all just as a heads up on what's going on out here when it comes to our yorkie babies. So as not to get this site into trouble, I will not name the breeder directly but I will say where she is located.

I recently placed an ad on the internet for the sale of a yorkie male that I have. I myself am not a breeder. I just made the decision that I'd like to have only females as my pets. I posted his picture and gave his size (under 3 lbs at 1 year of age). Needless to say, I received over 50 responses for him. I began responding and one particular lady caught my attention. She seemed very kind and explained that she really wanted a tiny yorkie because she currently owned a tiny girl. She explained that she was concerned with a larger yorkie because of her girl's size. Well, this story fit with me because I too have a tiny girl and upon replacing my male with another female, wanted to make sure I didn't get one that would be too large for her to safely play with. So I exchanged phone numbers with her and she and I began speaking over the phone.

Before making any commitments, I began to interview the woman. I asked her about small children, where my baby would be kept and the number one question was she a breeder. She said no and had good answers for all of my other numerous questions. She told me all she wanted was another tiny yorkie to love and how wonderful she is to her current little girl. She even sent me a picture of her to show me how well kept she was. We continued to chat via email and the phone about my dog but something just wasn't sitting well with me but I didn't know what.

Well during our conversation, one problem arose. The lady was in OK and I am in Maryland so I was now faced with the dilemma of shipping my baby. I really didn't like the idea. I contacted the airlines to discuss how live animals were handled and I was trying to get comfortable with the situation. However, something inside was telling me not to do this. Not just on the shipping but to not deal with this person. Mind you, she was an older lady, very nice and as I felt was very concerned with my baby's welfare. But as I'm sure you ladies here know, as women we have a special gift of a 6th sense and we know when something just isn't right.

So in listening to my special gift, I told the woman that I was sorry but I wasn't going to sell her my dog but I didn't leave it just like that. I felt bad for her as she started explaining that she had been looking for a dog like my guy for over a year and how she had been taken by many bad breeders. She said she had driven hours away from home only to be mislead by breeders advertising one dog and selling another. I felt for her. So I decided to go onto a particular breeder’s website which allowed me to put in her zip code and pull up yorkie breeders in her area (I didn't tell her that I was doing this). Well guess whose ad showed up big and bold at the top of the page? HERS!!!! I was floored. I called my husband as well as a good friend of mine that breeds yorkies and told them what happened. All of us were just stunned. After I had told this woman that I knew she was a breeder, she had the nerve to email me back and say that "as God as her witness, she was not a breeder." So I went a step further and had someone call her to ask about puppies. The very same woman proceeded to give information on her next litter and even said how she had a female ready to come into heat soon. Then I was really mad so that's what brought me here. I just wanted all of you who are looking for babies or even selling babies to be very careful. Go off of referrals as much as you can. I know that is sometimes easier said than done but please, be careful. Maybe we can start something here on this site where we can mention our breeders that we like (can't be any harm in that) or maybe have people who are looking for breeders, come here and post who they are considering.

It wasn't just that this woman was a breeder that upset me. It was that she lied which left me unable to believe anything that she said with regards to his well-being. If she had told me the truth about her intensions, at least I could have asked additional questions. But because she lied, nothing that she said means anything to me now. All reading this, please be very careful with who you are dealing with. If this woman would lie on God, she'd do anything!

Gypsy Rose · 10-31-2004, 09:58 AM

May I hope that you are about to keep your little boy now?!!

Chelsie1978 · 10-31-2004, 10:24 AM

Maybe its a sign for you to keep him

Why do you wnat to get rid of him? Is he not neutered?? What has he done wrong...? Poor baby

chrstna · 10-31-2004, 11:48 AM

JazzyBaby, are you the same JazzyBaby from Yorkies Direct?

jazzybaby · 10-31-2004, 04:33 PM

Actually it was my husband's complaining that has brought me to finding him a new home. He isn't neutered and he's lifting his leg. At this point, the vet is saying that even after neutering him, he may not stop but that wasn't the only thing. Jazzy is pretty high strung to say the least. He barks a lot and always at the worst times. My husband has just finished steam cleaning our house and it looks like he'll have to do it again really soon.

jazzybaby · 10-31-2004, 04:38 PM

And I have to say that I really do not appreciate the tone that i deserved this for trying to sell my male. I shouldn't have to live with a situation that isn't working for me and my household. None of you have to deal with him and his bad habits so you have no right to judge.

fasteddie · 11-01-2004, 10:00 AM

Thanks for the info. Some breeders will do anything to make a buck, the nerve of people lying and making up stories just to get a Yorkie is SICK! Reminds me of the bad used car dealers around here that have similar sob stories trying to buy cars and then resell later on. Were you not able to find him a home locally via newspaper or whatnot?

You have a right as a pet owner to do as you please, I don't think anyone should be judging you based for trying to sell a Yorkie. Good luck.

jazzybaby · 11-01-2004, 01:13 PM

Thanks Fasteddie and yes, I was able to find someone within a reasonable driving distance. She turned out to be a very sweet person and I did a ALL of my homework this time.

fasteddie · 11-02-2004, 09:55 AM

Good to hear jazzybaby! I hope you told them about YorkieTalk!

chrstna · 11-02-2004, 10:15 AM

Jazzy baby, are you the same on from YD?

jazzybaby · 11-02-2004, 05:52 PM

Yes. Tis I (ha-ha).

chrstna · 11-04-2004, 12:04 PM

I haven't seen you around! Where ya been?

mmyorkies · 11-04-2004, 12:31 PM

Jazzy,

I am glad that you did not sell to that woman. That is one reason that we should never advertise our babies over the internet for sale, we don't really know if the person who responds is truthful or not, and the same thing for purchasing a pup over the internet. Most puppies that are advertised on the internet are from people that are making money through their breeding of the dogs, and not from breeders that really care about the breed. Selling through friends, or even friends on a list you are on are far safer for the baby being sold. I list breeders on my site that breed and show yorkies, but I try to make sure that they are good breeders by asking a regime of questions about their breeding and selling practices. It still does not assure complete information, but at least I let people looking for puppies know that they need to ask questions too.

jazzybaby · 11-04-2004, 01:17 PM

I know. I'm just getting back to checking the site more often. I've been so busy at work! Thanks for not forgetting me!!!!!!!!

jazzybaby · 11-04-2004, 01:18 PM

That's really good advice!

10-31-2004, 09:00 AM	#1
jazzybaby Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 46	Please be careful when searching for a breeder Hi everyone. I wanted to share my recent experience with you all just as a heads up on what's going on out here when it comes to our yorkie babies. So as not to get this site into trouble, I will not name the breeder directly but I will say where she is located. I recently placed an ad on the internet for the sale of a yorkie male that I have. I myself am not a breeder. I just made the decision that I'd like to have only females as my pets. I posted his picture and gave his size (under 3 lbs at 1 year of age). Needless to say, I received over 50 responses for him. I began responding and one particular lady caught my attention. She seemed very kind and explained that she really wanted a tiny yorkie because she currently owned a tiny girl. She explained that she was concerned with a larger yorkie because of her girl's size. Well, this story fit with me because I too have a tiny girl and upon replacing my male with another female, wanted to make sure I didn't get one that would be too large for her to safely play with. So I exchanged phone numbers with her and she and I began speaking over the phone. Before making any commitments, I began to interview the woman. I asked her about small children, where my baby would be kept and the number one question was she a breeder. She said no and had good answers for all of my other numerous questions. She told me all she wanted was another tiny yorkie to love and how wonderful she is to her current little girl. She even sent me a picture of her to show me how well kept she was. We continued to chat via email and the phone about my dog but something just wasn't sitting well with me but I didn't know what. Well during our conversation, one problem arose. The lady was in OK and I am in Maryland so I was now faced with the dilemma of shipping my baby. I really didn't like the idea. I contacted the airlines to discuss how live animals were handled and I was trying to get comfortable with the situation. However, something inside was telling me not to do this. Not just on the shipping but to not deal with this person. Mind you, she was an older lady, very nice and as I felt was very concerned with my baby's welfare. But as I'm sure you ladies here know, as women we have a special gift of a 6th sense and we know when something just isn't right. So in listening to my special gift, I told the woman that I was sorry but I wasn't going to sell her my dog but I didn't leave it just like that. I felt bad for her as she started explaining that she had been looking for a dog like my guy for over a year and how she had been taken by many bad breeders. She said she had driven hours away from home only to be mislead by breeders advertising one dog and selling another. I felt for her. So I decided to go onto a particular breeder’s website which allowed me to put in her zip code and pull up yorkie breeders in her area (I didn't tell her that I was doing this). Well guess whose ad showed up big and bold at the top of the page? HERS!!!! I was floored. I called my husband as well as a good friend of mine that breeds yorkies and told them what happened. All of us were just stunned. After I had told this woman that I knew she was a breeder, she had the nerve to email me back and say that "as God as her witness, she was not a breeder." So I went a step further and had someone call her to ask about puppies. The very same woman proceeded to give information on her next litter and even said how she had a female ready to come into heat soon. Then I was really mad so that's what brought me here. I just wanted all of you who are looking for babies or even selling babies to be very careful. Go off of referrals as much as you can. I know that is sometimes easier said than done but please, be careful. Maybe we can start something here on this site where we can mention our breeders that we like (can't be any harm in that) or maybe have people who are looking for breeders, come here and post who they are considering. It wasn't just that this woman was a breeder that upset me. It was that she lied which left me unable to believe anything that she said with regards to his well-being. If she had told me the truth about her intensions, at least I could have asked additional questions. But because she lied, nothing that she said means anything to me now. All reading this, please be very careful with who you are dealing with. If this woman would lie on God, she'd do anything!

10-31-2004, 10:24 AM	#3
Chelsie1978 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mallorca-Spain Posts: 379	Maybe its a sign for you to keep him Why do you wnat to get rid of him? Is he not neutered?? What has he done wrong...? Poor baby Last edited by Chelsie1978; 10-31-2004 at 10:26 AM.

10-31-2004, 09:58 AM	#2
Gypsy Rose Owned by Gyps and Gizz Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Wales Posts: 629	May I hope that you are about to keep your little boy now?!!

10-31-2004, 11:48 AM	#4
chrstna Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2004 Location: AC, NJ / Philly, PA Posts: 86	JazzyBaby, are you the same JazzyBaby from Yorkies Direct?

10-31-2004, 04:33 PM	#5
jazzybaby Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 46	Actually it was my husband's complaining that has brought me to finding him a new home. He isn't neutered and he's lifting his leg. At this point, the vet is saying that even after neutering him, he may not stop but that wasn't the only thing. Jazzy is pretty high strung to say the least. He barks a lot and always at the worst times. My husband has just finished steam cleaning our house and it looks like he'll have to do it again really soon.

10-31-2004, 04:38 PM	#6
jazzybaby Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 46	And I have to say that I really do not appreciate the tone that i deserved this for trying to sell my male. I shouldn't have to live with a situation that isn't working for me and my household. None of you have to deal with him and his bad habits so you have no right to judge.

11-01-2004, 10:00 AM	#7
fasteddie *YT 6000 Club Member* Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 6,238	Thanks for the info. Some breeders will do anything to make a buck, the nerve of people lying and making up stories just to get a Yorkie is SICK! Reminds me of the bad used car dealers around here that have similar sob stories trying to buy cars and then resell later on. Were you not able to find him a home locally via newspaper or whatnot? You have a right as a pet owner to do as you please, I don't think anyone should be judging you based for trying to sell a Yorkie. Good luck.

11-01-2004, 01:13 PM	#8
jazzybaby Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 46	Thanks Fasteddie and yes, I was able to find someone within a reasonable driving distance. She turned out to be a very sweet person and I did a ALL of my homework this time.

11-02-2004, 09:55 AM	#9
fasteddie *YT 6000 Club Member* Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 6,238	Good to hear jazzybaby! I hope you told them about YorkieTalk!

11-02-2004, 10:15 AM	#10
chrstna Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2004 Location: AC, NJ / Philly, PA Posts: 86	Jazzy baby, are you the same on from YD?

11-02-2004, 05:52 PM	#11
jazzybaby Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 46	Yes. Tis I (ha-ha).

11-04-2004, 12:04 PM	#12
chrstna Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2004 Location: AC, NJ / Philly, PA Posts: 86	I haven't seen you around! Where ya been?

11-04-2004, 12:31 PM	#13
mmyorkies No Longer a Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 357	Jazzy, I am glad that you did not sell to that woman. That is one reason that we should never advertise our babies over the internet for sale, we don't really know if the person who responds is truthful or not, and the same thing for purchasing a pup over the internet. Most puppies that are advertised on the internet are from people that are making money through their breeding of the dogs, and not from breeders that really care about the breed. Selling through friends, or even friends on a list you are on are far safer for the baby being sold. I list breeders on my site that breed and show yorkies, but I try to make sure that they are good breeders by asking a regime of questions about their breeding and selling practices. It still does not assure complete information, but at least I let people looking for puppies know that they need to ask questions too.

11-04-2004, 01:17 PM	#14
jazzybaby Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 46	I know. I'm just getting back to checking the site more often. I've been so busy at work! Thanks for not forgetting me!!!!!!!!

11-04-2004, 01:18 PM	#15
jazzybaby Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 46	That's really good advice!