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Goldielocks19 · 02-08-2007, 07:43 PM

I have tried the treat thing, but he just focuses on the treat.
How can i teach him simple commands, like sit, paw, roll over.

my older dog just learned it...but the 6 month old can only focus on the treat....he jumps up and down like a freak.
thanks.

pepe mint · 02-08-2007, 07:50 PM

yeah, i really dont use treats at all. some people do, but i dont. i personally just dont want my dogs to do things in anticipation for a treat, but rather to please me. Maggie has done wonderful without treats. you just have to be persistent and make a total fool of yourself praising them. when they do what you ask, play with them, love on them, just go completely nuts with the love

it is actually pretty fun. dogs have a natural desire to please their master. they live for that...they want to see you happy. they want to know they have made you happy. they want nothing more than to please you and to receive your love in return. just put the treats away and save them for a random time that you feel like spoiling the baby. persistence is key. it is so much easier to just give in and give them a treat. but it is not the long term solution. what will you do when you dont have a treat but you want your dog to listen? it makes it a little more difficult. i have tested this theory..my hubby's dog is praised with treats. he is completely dependent on them. demands them. and will not do anything unless he is bribed. he is 10 years old. my 2 dogs do not get treats. they are the complete opposite. I am not saying that giving treats is bad or makes you a bad dog owner, i just think it could effectively be done without the treats. give it a shot and let me know

Tinker'sMommy · 02-08-2007, 07:50 PM

We have sit, and dance

, We are trying to learn paw

. My maltese knows and learns alittle quicker

, dont tell Tinkebell I said that

pepe mint · 02-08-2007, 07:55 PM

hehe...maggie has sit, here, and dance. we are working on stay, paw, and down. she is doing great. i just love how fast she is learning. for being so young.,..and little...it blows my mind. she is so smart.

not bragging at all

Goldielocks19 · 02-08-2007, 07:55 PM

I think its my fault too...i try to be persistent, but then feel bad that i am bothering him or putting too much pressure on him.
lol yes i know i am the owner...hee he, but i think owned is more the term.
I will try w/o the treats, seems like a good idea.
my oldest learned without treats,,,,,but exactly like you said, he loves praise.
He goes nuts when i start saying you are a good boy, who is my good boy...he loves it.
My youngest doesnt seem to care lol.

pepe mint · 02-08-2007, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Goldielocks19

I think its my fault too...i try to be persistent, but then feel bad that i am bothering him or putting too much pressure on him.
lol yes i know i am the owner...hee he, but i think owned is more the term.
I will try w/o the treats, seems like a good idea.
my oldest learned without treats,,,,,but exactly like you said, he loves praise.
He goes nuts when i start saying you are a good boy, who is my good boy...he loves it.
My youngest doesnt seem to care lol.

this sounds horrible but my cocker, daisy..she has never been rewarded with treats. and as long as i have a happy excited tone, i can tell her how ugly her hair cut is and she runs around like a mad lady soooooo excited. she just gets completely beside herself. they just want you to be happy. if you act happy, they are happy.

Goldielocks19 · 02-08-2007, 08:03 PM

one other thing....like i am trying it with him now.
He thinks it is play time & is biting my hands, now he normally doesnt bite....how can i reprimand him for biting...but stay postitve to reinforce the sitting behavior.

pepe mint · 02-08-2007, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Goldielocks19

one other thing....like i am trying it with him now.
He thinks it is play time & is biting my hands, now he normally doesnt bite....how can i reprimand him for biting...but stay postitve to reinforce the sitting behavior.

ok, we have this one mastered

when maggie chews on me (playful chewing) i say in a stern voice "no bite". if she does not listen, i will blow in her face. it gets her attention and she stops biting. as soon as she stops, I praise her. now...she knows what i mean when I say "no bite" now that I have blown in her face a few times. it doesnt happen over night but persistence is the key. anytime she does this to me now, and I say "no bite" she will start licking me...almost like she is saying she is sorry. she has really gotten much better. i still have to remind her from time to time but it usually only takes one time of me saying it, and she stops. just be sure and praise him every time he stops biting. he will get the pictures.

you could always send him to me and let me train him

i love training. it is just so fun. i'm no expert but i do have a passion for animals and love to watch them learn. so therefore, i get real satisfaction out of training this way..it is more rewarding than giving treats, IMO. giving them love and affection as a reward, they usually give it back and you both get something out of it.

Goldielocks19 · 02-08-2007, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by pepe mint

ok, we have this one mastered

when maggie chews on me (playful chewing) i say in a stern voice "no bite". if she does not listen, i will blow in her face. it gets her attention and she stops biting. as soon as she stops, I praise her. now...she knows what i mean when I say "no bite" now that I have blown in her face a few times. it doesnt happen over night but persistence is the key. anytime she does this to me now, and I say "no bite" she will start licking me...almost like she is saying she is sorry. she has really gotten much better. i still have to remind her from time to time but it usually only takes one time of me saying it, and she stops. just be sure and praise him every time he stops biting. he will get the pictures.

you could always send him to me and let me train him

i love training. it is just so fun. i'm no expert but i do have a passion for animals and love to watch them learn. so therefore, i get real satisfaction out of training this way..it is more rewarding than giving treats, IMO. giving them love and affection as a reward, they usually give it back and you both get something out of it.

thats a good idea with the blowing...he hates it, he starts biting the air. lol

on a cute note tho...when i was trying to teach mickey to sit, the older one johnny came over and he would sit...i praised him...and mickey would try to sit. (out of jealously im sure)
so after i started to praise mickey, johnny came over to him and started licking his face..as if he was saying good boy.
lol kinda cute.
I will have to be patient....he is a stubborn one.

pepe mint · 02-08-2007, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Goldielocks19

thats a good idea with the blowing...he hates it, he starts biting the air. lol

on a cute note tho...when i was trying to teach mickey to sit, the older one johnny came over and he would sit...i praised him...and mickey would try to sit. (out of jealously im sure)
so after i started to praise mickey, johnny came over to him and started licking his face..as if he was saying good boy.
lol kinda cute.
I will have to be patient....he is a stubborn one.

yes, patience is definitely key. it does not happen overnight but they do learn. especially if you already have an older one that is trained...your pup will learn from him as well. maggie has learned a lot from her siblings

some good habits and some bad hehe

KellyV · 02-08-2007, 08:20 PM

Teach him that when he pays attention to you and not the treat, he gets the treat! Hold a treat out in your hand away from your body. He'll probably start out by staring at the treat in your hand... Let him stare. Eventually he should glance over at your face (which could take a while, be patient!) the second he does, click (or do whatever you're doing to mark the behavior) and give him the treat.... Repeat. He should figure out that he gets the treat when he looks at YOU. Slowly increase the amount of time he has to look at you... from a brief glance increase it to a second or two, then 5 seconds, then 10.. Eventually he'll just sit and stare you in the face, paying attention to what you're doing instead of where the treat is.

My boy would sit there and stare and whine at my hand or a toy or whatever.. After working with him a few times like this, he now looks me right in the eyes when he wants something. He knows that I'm the one that's going to get it for him, so he pays attention to ME.

Here's a good article that gives more details on attention: http://www.clickersolutions.com/arti.../attention.htm

NIKITA & LILO · 02-08-2007, 08:35 PM

"sit" was the first thing lilo learned at age of 10 weeks.
Treats worked for us good , but it does take a lot of patience.
Here is video of Lilos first "sits"
And second one is Lilo at age 3 mo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS_kLuvVGCk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvgcEX74wgk

Goldielocks19 · 02-08-2007, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by NIKITA & LILO

"sit" was the first thing lilo learned at age of 10 weeks.
Treats worked for us good , but it does take a lot of patience.
Here is video of Lilos first "sits"
And second one is Lilo at age 3 mo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS_kLuvVGCk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvgcEX74wgk

oh my goodnes what a smartie you have....not to mention ADORABLE!
made mickey watch the video too,,,said look a 10 week old can do it, so u can too. lol

NIKITA & LILO · 02-08-2007, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Goldielocks19

made mickey watch the video too,,,said look a 10 week old can do it, so u can too. lol

LOL

Mattie's Mommy · 02-08-2007, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NIKITA & LILO

"sit" was the first thing lilo learned at age of 10 weeks.
Treats worked for us good , but it does take a lot of patience.
Here is video of Lilos first "sits"
And second one is Lilo at age 3 mo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS_kLuvVGCk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvgcEX74wgk

WOW -- I'm impressed

-- do you have any tips on how to teach these tricks. I would never have thought of all these. I like the high five. Mattie is 12wks plus and can sit. But that's it -- what should we work on next. By the way

Lilo is a real cuite too.

02-08-2007, 07:43 PM	#1
Goldielocks19 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York Posts: 111	Best ways to train dogs to site..etc I have tried the treat thing, but he just focuses on the treat. How can i teach him simple commands, like sit, paw, roll over. my older dog just learned it...but the 6 month old can only focus on the treat....he jumps up and down like a freak. thanks. __________________ Proud Yorkie-mama Riley & Zoey

02-08-2007, 07:50 PM	#2
pepe mint YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Franklin, TN Posts: 11,145	yeah, i really dont use treats at all. some people do, but i dont. i personally just dont want my dogs to do things in anticipation for a treat, but rather to please me. Maggie has done wonderful without treats. you just have to be persistent and make a total fool of yourself praising them. when they do what you ask, play with them, love on them, just go completely nuts with the love it is actually pretty fun. dogs have a natural desire to please their master. they live for that...they want to see you happy. they want to know they have made you happy. they want nothing more than to please you and to receive your love in return. just put the treats away and save them for a random time that you feel like spoiling the baby. persistence is key. it is so much easier to just give in and give them a treat. but it is not the long term solution. what will you do when you dont have a treat but you want your dog to listen? it makes it a little more difficult. i have tested this theory..my hubby's dog is praised with treats. he is completely dependent on them. demands them. and will not do anything unless he is bribed. he is 10 years old. my 2 dogs do not get treats. they are the complete opposite. I am not saying that giving treats is bad or makes you a bad dog owner, i just think it could effectively be done without the treats. give it a shot and let me know __________________ Anyone who does not know what soap tastes like has never washed a dog

02-08-2007, 07:50 PM	#3
Tinker'sMommy YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Fort Hood, Texas Posts: 2,107	We have sit, and dance, We are trying to learn paw. My maltese knows and learns alittle quicker, dont tell Tinkebell I said that __________________ TINKERBELL, CHIQUITO, AND MOMMY MICKIE

02-08-2007, 07:55 PM	#4
pepe mint YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Franklin, TN Posts: 11,145	hehe...maggie has sit, here, and dance. we are working on stay, paw, and down. she is doing great. i just love how fast she is learning. for being so young.,..and little...it blows my mind. she is so smart. not bragging at all __________________ Anyone who does not know what soap tastes like has never washed a dog

02-08-2007, 07:55 PM	#5
Goldielocks19 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York Posts: 111	I think its my fault too...i try to be persistent, but then feel bad that i am bothering him or putting too much pressure on him. lol yes i know i am the owner...hee he, but i think owned is more the term. I will try w/o the treats, seems like a good idea. my oldest learned without treats,,,,,but exactly like you said, he loves praise. He goes nuts when i start saying you are a good boy, who is my good boy...he loves it. My youngest doesnt seem to care lol. __________________ Proud Yorkie-mama Riley & Zoey

02-08-2007, 08:03 PM	#7
Goldielocks19 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York Posts: 111	one other thing....like i am trying it with him now. He thinks it is play time & is biting my hands, now he normally doesnt bite....how can i reprimand him for biting...but stay postitve to reinforce the sitting behavior. __________________ Proud Yorkie-mama Riley & Zoey

02-08-2007, 08:20 PM	#11
KellyV YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 776	Teach him that when he pays attention to you and not the treat, he gets the treat! Hold a treat out in your hand away from your body. He'll probably start out by staring at the treat in your hand... Let him stare. Eventually he should glance over at your face (which could take a while, be patient!) the second he does, click (or do whatever you're doing to mark the behavior) and give him the treat.... Repeat. He should figure out that he gets the treat when he looks at YOU. Slowly increase the amount of time he has to look at you... from a brief glance increase it to a second or two, then 5 seconds, then 10.. Eventually he'll just sit and stare you in the face, paying attention to what you're doing instead of where the treat is. My boy would sit there and stare and whine at my hand or a toy or whatever.. After working with him a few times like this, he now looks me right in the eyes when he wants something. He knows that I'm the one that's going to get it for him, so he pays attention to ME. Here's a good article that gives more details on attention: http://www.clickersolutions.com/arti.../attention.htm

02-08-2007, 08:35 PM	#12
NIKITA & LILO Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: McLean , VA Posts: 458	"sit" was the first thing lilo learned at age of 10 weeks. Treats worked for us good , but it does take a lot of patience. Here is video of Lilos first "sits" And second one is Lilo at age 3 mo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS_kLuvVGCk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvgcEX74wgk __________________ NIKITA & LILO If my little girl is a PRINCESS, does it make me a QUEEN?