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09-16-2006, 11:58 AM | #1 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Victorville, CA
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| I need some input I have had Chewie since he was 8 weeks old. I had an older DOxie when I got him. Elmo, the Doxie was 15 and didn't like to play much. But he would play with Chew as he got older. But Chewie has a mean streak. He will be playing and all is fun then all of a sudden he goes "balls out" mad dog and starts fighting. Yes, I know the differnce between the two. He is definatly trying to hurt whoever is his target. He has been socialized with many dogs and most of the time there is no problem. He has been neutered, and for a while just seemed to pick on my daughters yorkie, who is not neutered but not aggressive either. Elmo passed away in June and now I have a Cockapoo puppy. SHe is only 9 weeks old and they are only together when closely supervised. He was doing real nice with her , then this afternoon he just jumped on her for no reason. I don't know what to do, I have never had to deal with this situation before. I have always had 2 dogs and they have always gotten along. I love my Chewie but I want him to play nice with others and I want to be able to trust him to be nice. Any suggestions? I forgot to add that Chewie is 11 months old now. |
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09-16-2006, 12:09 PM | #2 |
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| Is this one of those situations where they tell you to put a leash on Chewie and when he misbehaves give it a tug and a stern NO? Might be worth trying I suppose.
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09-16-2006, 12:15 PM | #3 |
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| I would try Yorkie3's suggestion. I gave the stern NO with Rocky when he got mean to Gizmo (and took whatever toy he was playing with away) and Rocky doesn't do it anymore when I'm around, but I just found out from my mom that he does it when I'm not there
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09-16-2006, 02:43 PM | #4 |
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| get a spray bottle and spray him with water if he starts acting ugly it will distract him and eventually maybe he won't do it.
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09-16-2006, 06:55 PM | #5 |
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| Is this playing or???????????????? well I hate to tell this but here goes. Kizzy and Maggie have always played good together. But lately I've caught Kizzy being downright what seems mean to maggie. just pisses me off to no end because maggie is so much smaller. Kizzy has always been a loud growler when she is playing but lately after they play for a while kizzy starts sounding more aggressive with her. I've noticed several times kizzy will take toys from maggie then have it in her mouth and maggie will go get another toy then kizzy will take it from her and drop the other one and lay her body down over it so maggie cant get either toy. Maggie will keep trying to get one or the other and a couple times lately, i've caught kizzy just holding maggie down on the floor biting her all over. She didnt use to bite her hard enough to hurt her so I always figured it was playing. But yesterday then again tonight. I heard maggie yelping and went to see because they had been playing for a good while and kizzy was holding her down on the floor biting her till she yelped several times like it hurt and then maggie got up and ran over and sat down. And when she started back towards kizzy, Kizzy just growled real mean at her and she wouldnt go on over to her. I got so mad, twice lately, i've taken the toys away from kizzy and wouldnt let her have one and I would let maggie play with whatever she wanted for a good 10 minutes. Yet then maggie will quit playing with the toys and go lay down like she rather play with them with kizzy.. Is kizzy trying to hurt her and being aggressive or just playing. I think she is beginning to try to hurt her because sometimes their outside together and suddenly maggie runs toward the steps like to come up on the deck and Kizzy comes flying by her and jumps on the steps and stops in front of maggie and growls at her . as if to say, your not coming up here. and most time maggie will just go back to the ground from the bottom step. So i'm not quiet sure exactly whats going on with them. If kizzy is really mad mad at maggie or if she is just playing a little too aggressively. Because sometimes maggie keeps coming back biting at her and trying to gain some ground back, then kizzy seems to get really mad with the mean sounding growl. anyone have any idea whats going on? I've also let kizzy know I am HER boss, she isnt. as I will say dont run from me, just sit down girl in a mean tone and she will stop, and sit, and if she has something in her mouth, i'll say spit that out and she will. where she use to just keep running and running like in circles from me, or if i stopped she would stop and sometimes jsut as i would get to her she would take off again. now that part is much better as she does stop when I sound aggressive and just sit there for me and also spit out whatever she has in her mouth. So I'm mainly wonderin if she is playing too aggressive with maggie or actually trying to hurt her. She has never hurt her bad yet.Is it Kizzys way of telling her she is boss? I can tell its enough that maggie will not go around her for a while again. Sorry this is so long but I just get all wound up and angry at kizzy when she acts this way with maggie cause maggie loves her so much. Maggie wants to be whereever kizzy is and play with her. Yet they will lay down together and kizzy dont hurt her. just mainly when it comes to the toys.
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09-17-2006, 03:54 AM | #6 |
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| It does sound as if Kizzy is trrying to become the Alpha. I just wish they didn't have to do it so hard. She is putting Maggie in her place and the toys are "hers". Chewie is very stingy with his chew bones. He will fight with anyone if they get to close to where he has them hidden. So I have stopped giving them to him until Karma is old and big enough to hold her own against him. My problem is that when Chewie starts fighting he doesn't back down or stop. I always have to step in and separate them by lifting Chewie off the other dog, to avoid them being hurt. If it was a few nips I wouldn't intervene, but as you said when they cry and you know they are being hurt it makes me mad! And it all happens so fast. I did fill a water bottle and am trying to keep it with me, but I basically have to wear it around my waist, cause I never know when or why he will lauch out? I am sorry you are having this problem but I am very glad you shared it. I was beginning to think I had the "only bully Yorkie". My dogs are crate trained and sometimes I just have to separate them till he calms down, or put him outside away from the pup. We have a doggy door so he an come back in, but it gives him time to cool off. Please keep me posted on any thing you do that seems to help. |
09-17-2006, 09:58 AM | #7 |
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| well hubby said, kizzy isnt trying to hurt her or if she were she would pick her up and shake her or totally sling her since kizzy is so much bigger. And I have to believe that. I think kizzy is just trying to show her who is boss, because I Even know if kizzy wanted to hurt her bad, she could. She is so much bigger and they play good together most of the time. Its just sometimes kizzy seems more aggressive , but its only with maggie. She isnt at all aggressive with people. Also, if she were hurting maggie very bad, maggie wouldnt go back to her and start nipping at her once she has laid down and left maggie alone. He just said separate them when I cant watch them if I feel like kizzy will hurt maggie or rehome her. Since he knows I would never rehome kizzy and not only that, theres no way he would ever let kizzy go anywhere. I think he just said that so i would quit worrying him about it. He always tells me I worry too much. He said they are dogs and dogs are gonna do things we dont understand. But he said there is no way kizzy is trying to hurt her bad or she would really hurt her. And I do have to agree with him. So I'll just keep trying to make kizzy not play too rough with her and just make sure I dont leave them alone together. But then again, I leave them outside in the yard together and kizzy has never hurt her more than maybe make her yelp sometimes but maggies made kizzy yelp a few times too. If I tell kizzy to quit playing so rough or to leave maggie alone, she will settle down usually. Once I intervene, usually kizzy just goes and lays down and leaves her alone.
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09-17-2006, 11:32 AM | #9 |
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| ty, I agree. I do let them go outside and play together, half the time they lay around on the deck tho. But If I left the house, NO, I wouldnt leave them alone n the same room. yesterday we went up my sisters which I can see her house from mine. We left kizzy outside playing and maggie in the utility room with a lil bed and some toys. All was fine when we came back. matter of fact Looked like Kizzy laid on the deck and slept most of the time. But I let them play outside together when I'm home.
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