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yorkieowner24 · 08-16-2006, 02:37 PM

New yorkie terrier owner today, dont know what to do though the dog seems sad it had a brother and a guy was selling both dogs but only took one and now it doesnt eat much ate like 4 peices of food out of my hand but i put it in the container doesnt eat nor drink, and she pee once today on the floor and she loves the newspaper for some reason i guess she was in a cage with newspaper, likes to constantly lay down on newspaper ....why is it shy is that normal its 2months old....and is it hard to paper train how can i start doing so?

RLC12345678 · 08-16-2006, 02:43 PM

Hi!

Welcome to YorkieTalk!

Congratulations on the new addition!

First and formost, you need to make sure that this baby is eating well! Are you familiar with the risks of hypoglocemia?????? You need to go to the pet store TONIGHT and get some NutriCal and give her a dime sized amount every 2-3 hours, especially throughout the night 2nite if you just got her today, to prevent a hypoglocemic episode, which can be potentially deadly. You also need to make sure that she is eating. If she won't eat her food right now, try boiled chicken, cottage cheese, baby food, plain yogurt, white rice...anything. She needs to eat whatever she will eat right now until she is used to her new home and she gets a little older.

yorkieowner24 · 08-16-2006, 02:45 PM

ok thanks i'm going to the vet tomorrow for shots and grooming and let the vet know whats going on with her not eating, maybe i'll suggest that food u mentioned she will eat

newmommy · 08-16-2006, 02:46 PM

hi and welcome!!!!

RLC12345678 · 08-16-2006, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkieowner24

ok thanks i'm going to the vet tomorrow for shots and grooming and let the vet know whats going on with her not eating, maybe i'll suggest that food u mentioned she will eat

In all honesty, I would not wait until tomorrow to get this baby to eat. NutriCal is not a food...it is a supplement...it is a gel type that comes in a tube and you rub it on your yorkie's gums. Hypoglocemia is a SERIOUS risk in this small breed and you really need to take all the precautions necessary to prevent it, starting 2nite. If you don't have NutriCal and you cannot get any tonight, you need to get some Kyro Syrup and rub it on her gums or on the roof of her mouth every 2-3 hours. This has been a very stressful day for her and stress will enduce a hypoglocemic episode in no time.

Willow · 08-16-2006, 02:54 PM

I hope her brother got a good home and is being taken care of!

Congrats on the new baby and pay attention to the advice already given! I have been reading the posts (newbie too) and they all seem to know what they are talking about and are very experienced and so far very supportive here!

JeanieK · 08-16-2006, 03:01 PM

Instead of nutrical, if you don't know what that is, you can also give it some karo syrup. You can put some in the water, or let him lick it off your fingers. They must eat or get some sugar, or they will die very suddenly.

He is probably shy because he was kept in a cage and is not very familiar with being held. Give him his own little space out of the way where he can go and feel safe. A small crate or box.

Do not punish him for peeing on the floor, it will only frighten him, be patient and very calm. He will get used to his new surroundings in a few days.

Keep asking questions.
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Welcome to YT

yorkieowner24 · 08-16-2006, 03:03 PM

ok i also dont want to give her something she might not need, she ate like 4 cubes of food little peices and some water so not sure if nutrical is what i need, for some reason i feel safer to wait tomorrow , i'll ask the vet about nutri cal and that if i can use that if the dog aint eating. That not eating phase i'm sure will pass but in the mean time i'll buy nutri cal if approved by doc . Its only 5$ as well

karen171 · 08-16-2006, 03:12 PM

All the above advice is excellent and please follow it ASAP. I know you'll give her lots of love and care and she'll reward you with years of unconditional love. Welcome to YT...you're at the right place to learn all about Yorkies. Just ask if you have more concerns about your new baby.

Lacy's Mom · 08-16-2006, 03:12 PM

I'll try one more time YTers - The stress of a new enviroment and not eating properly will bring on a hypoglycemic episode which is fatal if not treated.

Hypoglycemia or low blood sugar is a common problem with all toy breed puppies including the yorkshire terrier. Hypoglycemia is the medical term for low blood sugar, which is a condition in which there is a drastic, sudden drop in the level of blood sugar in the puppy. In small breed puppies from post-weaning to 4 month of age, the most common form of hypoglycemia is called Transient Juvenile Hypoglycemia: “Transient” because the symptoms can be reversed by eating; "Juvenile" because it is seen in young puppies. Veterinarians unfamiliar with toys often mis-diagnose the condition as viral hepatitis or encephalitis. As a toy yorkie breeder or pet owner, it is important to recognize the symptoms of hypoglycemia and know how to treat it. Hypoglycemia is easily treatable in the early stages, but fatal if allowed to progress. Many puppies are lost needlessly to hypoglycemia because of ignorance on the part of their owner or veterinarian.

It is important to understand that just because a puppy has an episode of hypoglycemia, it does not mean that the puppy is truly "hypoglycemic." True hypoglycemia is a chronic condition caused by overproduction of insulin by the pancreas. Even though the pancreas may normally function properly, toy puppies can still have an isolated hypoglycemic incident in reaction to stress or fasting. Pups of any breed are more likely to develop hypoglycemia than adults, because their skeletal muscle mass and liver size are smaller and brain size, larger, in proportion to the rest of their body. Therefore, there is less glucose being put out into the blood and more being used by the brain, which is dependent upon adequate glucose in order to function. In small and toy breeds, this discrepancy is more pronounced. Even a brief period of fasting or stress in a toy breed puppy can trigger a hypoglycemic "attack. Puppies with Transient Juvenile Hypoglycemia have normal liver size and function, but inadequate glucose precursors or glucose in its stored form (body fat). Hypoglycemic incidents are almost always preceded by a stress of some kind. Some examples of common stresses include: weaning, teething, vaccinations, a change in environment, shipping, over-handling, cold temperatures, intestinal parasites, infections, anorexia, etc. Many puppies simply play too hard and stress their system or forget to eat. I have heard of young males experiencing hypoglycemia when a female in heat is around. They become so worked up over the female that they do not eat and their blood sugar drops.

The first sign of hypoglycemia is the yorkshire terrier puppy slowing down and then acting listless. The puppy will then begin to tremble or shiver. This is a reaction caused as the brain is starved for glucose. More signs of an attack are a weakness, confusion, wobbly gait, frothing or drooling from the mouth - sometimes even a seizure and drain of blood from the head. His body will be limp, lifeless, and a check of the gums will show them to be pale, almost a grayish white in color rather than a healthy bright pink.. The body temperature will be subnormal. After a time, the puppy will become comatose and may even appear to be dead. The puppy can go into shock and, if not cared for properly and promptly, may even die.

If caught in the early stages, rub Nutri-Cal (Caro syrup will do if you have no Nutri-Cal) on the puppy's gums, under the tongue, and on the roof of the mouth. Get a heating pad or heating blanket and slowly warm the puppy to proper body temperature. If the puppy responds, all is well. Feed a quality, canned food containing, high-carbohydrates and protein right away (you may want to mix it with egg yolk) and then monitor the puppy to be sure that the condition does not recur. Be sure to eliminate the stress that caused the episode if at all possible.

If caught in the more advanced stages, rub Nutri-Cal or Caro in the mouth, and carefully insert a small amount in the rectum. Slowly warm the puppy to normal body temperature (101-102 degrees F) and keep him warm continuously with light heat. If the puppy still does not respond, carefully eye dropper dextrose solution or Caro water into the mouth, a little at a time only if the dog can swallow. Call your veterinarian immediately and inform him that you have a hypoglycemic yorkie puppy.

yorkieowner24 · 08-16-2006, 03:15 PM

maybe she is fine? my wife says the dog follows her around and eats abit more and drinks water and she peeed again but maybe she aint use to me i think that could be it...maybe because now she is ok same before i got home today for dinner she just sat in the corner laying down but when i left she up and ok lol i hope she aint scared of me i dont do nothing to it at all, just that i aint around i work 2pm to 1am and she just use to my wife , i guess i spend all day tomorrow since i'm off and see the reaction, my wife got that reaction within 1 day which was today no problem

RLC12345678 · 08-16-2006, 03:32 PM

She needs more than a couple of pieces of food. She needs to get either NutriCal or Kyro Syrup every 2-3 hours throughout her first night with you in order to prevent hypoglocemia or death. She needs this BEFORE you take her to the vet tomorrow.

SJK1113 · 08-16-2006, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yorkieowner24

ok i also dont want to give her something she might not need, she ate like 4 cubes of food little peices and some water so not sure if nutrical is what i need, for some reason i feel safer to wait tomorrow , i'll ask the vet about nutri cal and that if i can use that if the dog aint eating. That not eating phase i'm sure will pass but in the mean time i'll buy nutri cal if approved by doc . Its only 5$ as well

The Nutrical won't hurt her, it's perfectly safe. It's just to prevent her sugar from getting too low. Hypoglycemia can be VERY serious. You can also use Karo Syrup. Making a transition to a new home is very stressful to little puppies, so listen to the good advice you're getting here. I'm sure your vet would agree with the Nutrical.

Rae Rae · 08-16-2006, 04:29 PM

Congrats on the new furbaby!!!

If your worried about the nutrical, call a 24hr vet service just to verify that it's safe. It is compleltly safe, and I give it to my pup twice a day even though he does eat. I can understand your concerns though, you don't know any of us and how good our references are, so just call a vet, or go to your pet store and ask about it.

yorkieowner24 · 08-16-2006, 04:34 PM

ya i think just incase tonight i'll have to get it since i'm at work and give it to her at 1am but she is sleeping still ok?

08-16-2006, 02:37 PM	#1
yorkieowner24 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: middletown Posts: 119	new owner here New yorkie terrier owner today, dont know what to do though the dog seems sad it had a brother and a guy was selling both dogs but only took one and now it doesnt eat much ate like 4 peices of food out of my hand but i put it in the container doesnt eat nor drink, and she pee once today on the floor and she loves the newspaper for some reason i guess she was in a cage with newspaper, likes to constantly lay down on newspaper ....why is it shy is that normal its 2months old....and is it hard to paper train how can i start doing so?

08-16-2006, 02:46 PM	#4
newmommy Keep Me Away From eBay Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Arizona Posts: 2,109	hi and welcome!!!! __________________ There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face!!

08-16-2006, 02:54 PM	#6
Willow Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,890	I hope her brother got a good home and is being taken care of! Congrats on the new baby and pay attention to the advice already given! I have been reading the posts (newbie too) and they all seem to know what they are talking about and are very experienced and so far very supportive here! __________________ Alycia Autumn Gizmo Maddie

08-16-2006, 03:12 PM	#9
karen171 ZIGGY & MUGSY'S MOM Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Denton, TX Posts: 1,227	All the above advice is excellent and please follow it ASAP. I know you'll give her lots of love and care and she'll reward you with years of unconditional love. Welcome to YT...you're at the right place to learn all about Yorkies. Just ask if you have more concerns about your new baby. __________________ I don't believe in the concept of hell, but if I did I would think of it as filled with people who were cruel to animals. Gary Larson Join: www.millbusters.com

08-16-2006, 02:43 PM	#2
RLC12345678 I heart Hootie & Hobbs Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: USA Posts: 7,149	Hi! Welcome to YorkieTalk! Congratulations on the new addition! First and formost, you need to make sure that this baby is eating well! Are you familiar with the risks of hypoglocemia?????? You need to go to the pet store TONIGHT and get some NutriCal and give her a dime sized amount every 2-3 hours, especially throughout the night 2nite if you just got her today, to prevent a hypoglocemic episode, which can be potentially deadly. You also need to make sure that she is eating. If she won't eat her food right now, try boiled chicken, cottage cheese, baby food, plain yogurt, white rice...anything. She needs to eat whatever she will eat right now until she is used to her new home and she gets a little older.

08-16-2006, 02:45 PM	#3
yorkieowner24 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: middletown Posts: 119	ok thanks i'm going to the vet tomorrow for shots and grooming and let the vet know whats going on with her not eating, maybe i'll suggest that food u mentioned she will eat

08-16-2006, 03:01 PM	#7
JeanieK Donating YT 12K Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Council Bluffs Iowa Posts: 12,552	Instead of nutrical, if you don't know what that is, you can also give it some karo syrup. You can put some in the water, or let him lick it off your fingers. They must eat or get some sugar, or they will die very suddenly. He is probably shy because he was kept in a cage and is not very familiar with being held. Give him his own little space out of the way where he can go and feel safe. A small crate or box. Do not punish him for peeing on the floor, it will only frighten him, be patient and very calm. He will get used to his new surroundings in a few days. Keep asking questions. \ Welcome to YT

08-16-2006, 03:03 PM	#8
yorkieowner24 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: middletown Posts: 119	ok i also dont want to give her something she might not need, she ate like 4 cubes of food little peices and some water so not sure if nutrical is what i need, for some reason i feel safer to wait tomorrow , i'll ask the vet about nutri cal and that if i can use that if the dog aint eating. That not eating phase i'm sure will pass but in the mean time i'll buy nutri cal if approved by doc . Its only 5$ as well

08-16-2006, 03:12 PM	#10
Lacy's Mom YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 3,065	I'll try one more time YTers - The stress of a new enviroment and not eating properly will bring on a hypoglycemic episode which is fatal if not treated. Hypoglycemia or low blood sugar is a common problem with all toy breed puppies including the yorkshire terrier. Hypoglycemia is the medical term for low blood sugar, which is a condition in which there is a drastic, sudden drop in the level of blood sugar in the puppy. In small breed puppies from post-weaning to 4 month of age, the most common form of hypoglycemia is called Transient Juvenile Hypoglycemia: “Transient” because the symptoms can be reversed by eating; "Juvenile" because it is seen in young puppies. Veterinarians unfamiliar with toys often mis-diagnose the condition as viral hepatitis or encephalitis. As a toy yorkie breeder or pet owner, it is important to recognize the symptoms of hypoglycemia and know how to treat it. Hypoglycemia is easily treatable in the early stages, but fatal if allowed to progress. Many puppies are lost needlessly to hypoglycemia because of ignorance on the part of their owner or veterinarian. It is important to understand that just because a puppy has an episode of hypoglycemia, it does not mean that the puppy is truly "hypoglycemic." True hypoglycemia is a chronic condition caused by overproduction of insulin by the pancreas. Even though the pancreas may normally function properly, toy puppies can still have an isolated hypoglycemic incident in reaction to stress or fasting. Pups of any breed are more likely to develop hypoglycemia than adults, because their skeletal muscle mass and liver size are smaller and brain size, larger, in proportion to the rest of their body. Therefore, there is less glucose being put out into the blood and more being used by the brain, which is dependent upon adequate glucose in order to function. In small and toy breeds, this discrepancy is more pronounced. Even a brief period of fasting or stress in a toy breed puppy can trigger a hypoglycemic "attack. Puppies with Transient Juvenile Hypoglycemia have normal liver size and function, but inadequate glucose precursors or glucose in its stored form (body fat). Hypoglycemic incidents are almost always preceded by a stress of some kind. Some examples of common stresses include: weaning, teething, vaccinations, a change in environment, shipping, over-handling, cold temperatures, intestinal parasites, infections, anorexia, etc. Many puppies simply play too hard and stress their system or forget to eat. I have heard of young males experiencing hypoglycemia when a female in heat is around. They become so worked up over the female that they do not eat and their blood sugar drops. The first sign of hypoglycemia is the yorkshire terrier puppy slowing down and then acting listless. The puppy will then begin to tremble or shiver. This is a reaction caused as the brain is starved for glucose. More signs of an attack are a weakness, confusion, wobbly gait, frothing or drooling from the mouth - sometimes even a seizure and drain of blood from the head. His body will be limp, lifeless, and a check of the gums will show them to be pale, almost a grayish white in color rather than a healthy bright pink.. The body temperature will be subnormal. After a time, the puppy will become comatose and may even appear to be dead. The puppy can go into shock and, if not cared for properly and promptly, may even die. If caught in the early stages, rub Nutri-Cal (Caro syrup will do if you have no Nutri-Cal) on the puppy's gums, under the tongue, and on the roof of the mouth. Get a heating pad or heating blanket and slowly warm the puppy to proper body temperature. If the puppy responds, all is well. Feed a quality, canned food containing, high-carbohydrates and protein right away (you may want to mix it with egg yolk) and then monitor the puppy to be sure that the condition does not recur. Be sure to eliminate the stress that caused the episode if at all possible. If caught in the more advanced stages, rub Nutri-Cal or Caro in the mouth, and carefully insert a small amount in the rectum. Slowly warm the puppy to normal body temperature (101-102 degrees F) and keep him warm continuously with light heat. If the puppy still does not respond, carefully eye dropper dextrose solution or Caro water into the mouth, a little at a time only if the dog can swallow. Call your veterinarian immediately and inform him that you have a hypoglycemic yorkie puppy.

08-16-2006, 03:15 PM	#11
yorkieowner24 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: middletown Posts: 119	maybe she is fine? my wife says the dog follows her around and eats abit more and drinks water and she peeed again but maybe she aint use to me i think that could be it...maybe because now she is ok same before i got home today for dinner she just sat in the corner laying down but when i left she up and ok lol i hope she aint scared of me i dont do nothing to it at all, just that i aint around i work 2pm to 1am and she just use to my wife , i guess i spend all day tomorrow since i'm off and see the reaction, my wife got that reaction within 1 day which was today no problem

08-16-2006, 03:32 PM	#12
RLC12345678 I heart Hootie & Hobbs Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: USA Posts: 7,149	She needs more than a couple of pieces of food. She needs to get either NutriCal or Kyro Syrup every 2-3 hours throughout her first night with you in order to prevent hypoglocemia or death. She needs this BEFORE you take her to the vet tomorrow.

08-16-2006, 04:29 PM	#14
Rae Rae YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,823	Congrats on the new furbaby!!! If your worried about the nutrical, call a 24hr vet service just to verify that it's safe. It is compleltly safe, and I give it to my pup twice a day even though he does eat. I can understand your concerns though, you don't know any of us and how good our references are, so just call a vet, or go to your pet store and ask about it.

08-16-2006, 04:34 PM	#15
yorkieowner24 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: middletown Posts: 119	ya i think just incase tonight i'll have to get it since i'm at work and give it to her at 1am but she is sleeping still ok?