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Old 08-01-2006, 05:10 AM   #1
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i was talking to a lady on another site about bad breeders and puppy farms and she said she thinks it should be illegal to take money for any animal ie dog pup cat kitten, she says if people breed thats up to them its there choice but why should they get paid for it? if someone can offer a good home for the dog then thats all that is importaint not the money. what do you all think? do you think people should sell yorkies? she also said an adoption fee could maybe be paid but to a rescue of that breed of dog. maybe that would be a good idea im not sure on this one still in 2 minds about it, yes no one makes the breeders breed and they say its cos they love doing it and its not about the money so why charge but the thing i would be worried about would be breeds of dog dieing out cos no one would bother breeding them and a world without yorkies
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Breeders breed because it is a hobby, a very expensive hobby. If they didn't get paid for their hobby then they couldn't afford to do it. And while most say they don't do it for the money, if there were no money they probably wouldn't do it.

They don't expect to get wealthy from it and most don't make a living off of it, but I'm sure most do make a profit in the long run.

It sounds to me like this woman is wanting a free yorkie. If she just wants to pay an adoption fee to a rescue, then she should go to the rescue to get the dog.
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No offense, but that makes absolutely no sense. Should a breeder get compenstated for all the things (vet bills, papers, time, etc.) that they put into each puppy?
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Breeders breed because it is a hobby, a very expensive hobby. If they didn't get paid for their hobby then they couldn't afford to do it. And while most say they don't do it for the money, if there were no money they probably wouldn't do it.

They don't expect to get wealthy from it and most don't make a living off of it, but I'm sure most do make a profit in the long run.

It sounds to me like this woman is wanting a free yorkie. If she just wants to pay an adoption fee to a rescue, then she should go to the rescue to get the dog.
no she wasnt looking for a dog she was just saying she thinks its wrong to take money for a dog, she said breeders say they do it for the love of doing it and its not about the money so why ask for money? she said that person makes that choice to breed that dog so they should pay for it as no one makes them breed the dog, if they lose money then dont do it.
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No offense, but that makes absolutely no sense. Should a breeder get compenstated for all the things (vet bills, papers, time, etc.) that they put into each puppy?
i said but shouldnt the breeder get back what they paid and she said no why should they no one made them breed the dog, so i guess a breeder shouldnt be compenstated as it was there choice is what she was saying.
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some people breed for the money they can make off of them with no consideration for the dogs and people who get them, they just want the money. which is down right wrong! others breed to improve the yorkie standards or keep them going through their generations and it costs major money to breed properly , they make very little if any profit off of puppies .many almost don't want to part with them! some people don't know anything about breeding but do it anyways because the cute little dogs sell for alot of money and so on .well some people just shouldn't breed them at all .but if nobody got money for breeding then there wouldn't be any yorkies! the puppies have to be wormed, shots ,tails ,.claws and everything they need to be healthy that costs money and when you buy from a rep. breeder that's where most of that money goes back into into ,not to mention a quality food and things to begin training already before they are sold /move to their new homes.
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i said but shouldnt the breeder get back what they paid and she said no why should they no one made them breed the dog, so i guess a breeder shouldnt be compenstated as it was there choice is what she was saying.
I have to disagree with you. Breeders should get compenstated for all the money, time, and hard work they put into breeding and raising the puppies. If breeders did not get compenstated because they chose to breed, then yorkies and the breed standard would go down hill. Look at all those excellent breeders who have standard yorkies. Yes, it is their choice to breed but f they did not get anything for the puppies, then unless they were rich, they could not breed yorkies so they would not even get to choose whether or not to breed. So the excellent show breeders and hobby breeders would not be able to breed anymore. So if they are not breeding yorkies anymore then yorkies are going to be very hard to come by and you won't find what that will fit within the standard and would have yorkies that look less and less like yorkies. It really could never work.

Perhaps if you said unreputable breeders who are only in it for the money or breeders that did not raise healthy puppies should not get any money, after all how many of us have seen unhealthy yorkies sold at petstores or auctions, then I would have to agree with you.
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It's just not plausible for breeders not to charge anything. I am not a breeder, but I took in a stray pregnant cat into our house earlier this year. It turned out she had lymphoma, and we took good care of her and the babies. For all her tests, spaying, the babies' shots and tests we have spent well over 1500 dollars. The technicians at the vet's office asked us if we got a second job to take care of the cat and the kittens. We gave the kittens away for free because we have found good homes, and honestly nobody wants to pay money for domestic short hair cats. But, the next time I see a pregant cat, I am calling humane society.
The work that went into it was very enjoyable, except force feeding the momma cat during the last stages of her life (we had her on chemotherapy asap but her lymphoma was advanced). We loved seeing her give birth, and we loved watching the kittens grow. I did not even mind paying all that money very much because we loved the momma cat, it was a one time thing, and we have enough money. But, it is definitely not something I would do intentionally as a hobby unless I had hundreds of thousands of dollars that I don't need to spend on anything.
I find it a bit disturbing to "buy," "own," "sell" animals because I believe their lives are just as priceless as mine, but that's on a spiritual level, not a financial one.
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I don't want anyone flipping out on me, but....if that were the case, then everything would be free. If this thinking could be reality, the following wouldn't sound so crazy:

No one HAS to raise cows for beef....they choose to, so all beef should be free.

Tires would be free because a person chose to work a a tire plant.

The doctor chose to go to school for all of those years, he should do the surgery for free because he cares about people.

I could go on and on, but it would be senseless. If you have a Yorkie, you chose to do so...as with anything you don't HAVE to have' but want to have, it is a luxury. Once you do get one though you feel like it is a "necessity". We all know they don't come in a box of Cracker Jacks .

Oh boy, I am saying all of this in a joking sort of way....hope no one gets upset
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I don't want anyone flipping out on me, but....if that were the case, then everything would be free. If this thinking could be reality, the following wouldn't sound so crazy:

No one HAS to raise cows for beef....they choose to, so all beef should be free.

Tires would be free because a person chose to work a a tire plant.

The doctor chose to go to school for all of those years, he should do the surgery for free because he cares about people.

I could go on and on, but it would be senseless. If you have a Yorkie, you chose to do so...as with anything you don't HAVE to have' but want to have, it is a luxury. Once you do get one though you feel like it is a "necessity". We all know they don't come in a box of Cracker Jacks .

Oh boy, I am saying all of this in a joking sort of way....hope no one gets upset
Excellent post. I agree with you 100%.
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I don't want anyone flipping out on me, but....if that were the case, then everything would be free. If this thinking could be reality, the following wouldn't sound so crazy:

No one HAS to raise cows for beef....they choose to, so all beef should be free.

Tires would be free because a person chose to work a a tire plant.

The doctor chose to go to school for all of those years, he should do the surgery for free because he cares about people.

I could go on and on, but it would be senseless. If you have a Yorkie, you chose to do so...as with anything you don't HAVE to have' but want to have, it is a luxury. Once you do get one though you feel like it is a "necessity". We all know they don't come in a box of Cracker Jacks .

Oh boy, I am saying all of this in a joking sort of way....hope no one gets upset

Excellent point and I completely agree and I think many others will too.
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I don't think ANY dogs should be free. I think we live in a disposable world and a LOT of people only value things they pay for. If dogs were free, every jerk that saw one that he thought was cute, would get it until it was no longer cute or bothered them and then they would dispose of it, ie..drop it off in some neighborhood, take it to the pound or what have you and then just get another "cute" one that caught their eye. There are enough unwanted dogs in this world, and I think free dogs would only escalate this problem
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if breeders didnt get paid then there would be no dogs or cats and then that means we wouldnt have are BABIES!!!!!!
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It requires time, money, and effort - those things should be properly compensated. And, for the breeders that are reputable and breed well-socialized, proper looking (standard) puppies with a good temperament... well, they are helping the breed as a whole.

Oh, and I totally agree with what LuvtheCooper said... dogs shouldn't be free because if they were openly available, people who want them just for the novelty would get them without properly taking care of them and giving them the life they deserve.
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I don't want anyone flipping out on me, but....if that were the case, then everything would be free. If this thinking could be reality, the following wouldn't sound so crazy:

No one HAS to raise cows for beef....they choose to, so all beef should be free.

Tires would be free because a person chose to work a a tire plant.

The doctor chose to go to school for all of those years, he should do the surgery for free because he cares about people.

I could go on and on, but it would be senseless. If you have a Yorkie, you chose to do so...as with anything you don't HAVE to have' but want to have, it is a luxury. Once you do get one though you feel like it is a "necessity". We all know they don't come in a box of Cracker Jacks .

Oh boy, I am saying all of this in a joking sort of way....hope no one gets upset
Love the post especially about the beef
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