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07-19-2006, 05:52 AM | #1 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: oklahoma
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| Breeding my Yorkie for the first time. I want to breed my little girl for the 1st time. She is 1 1/2 yrs old and getting ready to come into her 3rd heat. I've breed other dogs in the past (15 yrs ago). I talk to a lady that has a 7 mo. old male that's unproven. I have a couple of question that I'm hopping someone can answer for me. 1) Is 7 mos to young for a stud? I was always told the male should be at least 9 mos old. 2) What is the going rate for an unproven stud? She wants either the pick of the litter or money. She is leaving that decision up to me. But she would prefer pick of the litter which I'm not in favor of at all. I was under the impression that you didn't change anything for an unproven stud. THe two should have some nice puppies too, my yourkie "Miss Scarlet" weights 5.8 lbs and the little stud "Buster" weights 3.5. Any suggestions here would be wonderful |
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07-19-2006, 06:03 AM | #2 |
I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana
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| I think pick of the litter is too high of a price for an unproven stud. I would pay a small stud fee.
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07-19-2006, 06:05 AM | #3 |
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| I believe the male is too young. I have heard the male should be at least 9 months and preferably over a year. I also think you would be better off with a stud fee than pick of the litter since yorkie litters are so small and depending on where you live puppies can sell for much more that a normal stud fee. I'm not a breeder though.
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07-19-2006, 06:15 AM | #4 |
I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana
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| I think the AKC will recognize a stud if he is 7 months old but he is still really young to be a stud.
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07-19-2006, 06:54 AM | #5 |
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| If you are going to pay a stud fee, make sure there is a guarantee that the female must get pregnant. I think the little stud you may use may be a bit too young.... Good luck. Keep us posted.
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07-19-2006, 06:57 AM | #6 |
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| I think pick of the litter is quite high, but I know my breeder gets that from her studs. I think for an unproven stud and especifally such a young one, the fee should be less. |
07-19-2006, 07:07 AM | #7 | |
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07-19-2006, 09:39 AM | #8 |
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| Dont know anything about Breeding Wondering what does unproven mean exactly?
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07-19-2006, 09:54 AM | #9 |
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| unproven merely means "he has never been a daddy" a proven male is one that has successfully sired a litter.
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07-19-2006, 10:00 AM | #10 |
YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Minnesota
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| I would check with AKC first because they may not paper that litter because of the males age. Also that is the going deal around here the pick of the litter or a Stud fee. In which here it was 700.00 Whether it takes or not so that is why I wouldn't use a unproven stud. As for the pick I wouldn't do that deal either because it is your 1st litter she may only have 1 -2 because she is smaller 5.8. If it were me I would agree for a fee to use him so she can have him proven. Or if there were 2 puppies agree to give them one but If there is only 1 female I would have the right to sell it to pay for the Breeding Experience who knows C section..............But whatever you do make it a CONTRACT signed and dated by you and the Stud's owner. |
07-19-2006, 10:18 AM | #11 |
Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland Oregon
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| I just realized I posted 9 months - when I meant 7 months here is what the AKC reg's are AKC Rules do not allow, except with special documentation, the registration of a litter out of a dam under 8 months or over 12 years of age at the time of mating, or by a sire under 7 months or over 12 years of age at the time of mating. That being said I still would not recommend such a young stud. Often young studs can not perform (they will do their best but many will fail or go through the motions) Also his size can be a hinderance he will more than likely need breeding assistance, like lap breeding to insure a tie and for him not to be injured) JMT's
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07-19-2006, 12:30 PM | #12 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: oklahoma
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| Miss Scarlets 1st litter Thank you to everyone for the great advise. I was really having second thoughts about using a 7 mo old male dog for a stud. Now I'm back on the search for a nice little male to breed with my yorkie. Does anyone know a good reliable breeded in the Tulsa, ok. area? : |
07-19-2006, 02:01 PM | #13 |
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07-19-2006, 02:32 PM | #15 | |
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is it TOO simple to UNDERSTAND that you SHOULDN"T breed any females with unproved male.... and that male must be fixed. but ... I do understand that some people just don't think about it, they don't care if they will get sick puppies, or those puppies will look like "so called yorkies" just feel sorry for my favorite breed. | |
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