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believev · 06-20-2006, 03:40 PM

OK... So my girlfriend has a Yorkie. It's 5. Actually it's not hers, because her parents take care of it 99% of the time. I have been going over this house for a year now and from the minute I walked in the door the dog was absolutely mortified of me. It's so bad that it starts to shake immediately and sometimes throws up just from looking at me. With time that got a little better, now it just hides when i come over. She said if it doesn't know someone it always hides. whatever, that's not the issue here. The dog is afraid of me and I think it's not socialized properly. They are all women in that house, and it just thinks i'm going to hurt it..

With that said.... The dog is also incapable of leaving hte house. At least that's what htey say. I found all this to be rediculous until 2 days ago when I convinced her to bring the dog up my house while her parents were away on vacation. I figured it would be easier if we can take care of him without having to run up her house ever couple of hours to feed it and take it out. They really baby this dog, it gets fed better than I do. It gets heated up chicken with all kinds of cheese on it. I consider it to be very spoiled. I have sat with it several times and pet it, and taken it for walks, only to come over the next day and he hides immediately when he hears my car.

Anyway.. so we bring it up my house, where we let it hangout by the pool outside with us. It's breezy and about 70degrees not too hot or anything. THe dog is in the shade and it immediatly starts to pant excessivelty. Within about 15 minutes, it was gasping for air and making all these wierd gurgling sounds.. Honestly I dont like this dog.. mostly because it doesn't like me and it's a constant nuisance, but i felt real bad for it here.

I really thoguht it was going to die. We took it inside and i left the room so she could be alone with it, thinking it would calm down, but it only got worse. It was taking what seemed like thousands of little gasping breaths every minute. It wasn't getting anthing into his lungs.. I think he was horribly hyperventiallted and just couldn't take any air in. He was able to run around and walk and stuff, but it was making these wierd gasps.. so fast and over and over.. nonstop.. so she asked to take it home and I agreed, with fear that it would just keel over at any moment. Anyway the 15minute ride back he continued.. didn't get worse but didn't take a full breath the entire time. I figured if he wasn't breathing he would have died for sure, but he didn't and a few hours passed, so he was getting air somehow. He was drooling all over the place.. The ride home, i got stuck with him on my lap with a roll of paper towels wiping his face every 2 seconds b/c he was drooling all over the place.. he never stopped gasping for air the entire 15 minute ride

anyway.. what can cause a dog to act like that, and is there any way to fix it. If it were up to me I would just make it sit there until it relaxed, but I know thats wrong. This dog needs to calm down b/c the parents are goign away alot now and we dont think it's right that we have to take care of the dog but on the DOG's terms.. we have to drive 15 minutes. take him out, feed him 3 times a day.. ontop of cooking his chicken. it's rediculous. if he could just stay here, he'd be safe and everythign but he was freaking out last time..

any suggestions.. I suspect the dog had a panic attack of some sort and hyperventillated. There was no danger for him and he wouldn't have been hurt, so can he really die from being so nervous? Should I just let him work it out on its own?

ANy suggestiosn would help.

he really is a cute dog.. he's real fat b/c of the cheese and everythign, but he doesn't pant like that at home ever.. it was definately cuz we took him out of the house.
Thanks

red98vett · 06-20-2006, 03:47 PM

Omgosh - I think you're right and he did have a panic attack - they need to socialize that poor baby asap or he really may end up having so much trouble that he really does stop breathing all together - that's really sad he's THAT moritified over leaving his house....

The only other thing I can think of is maybe he DOES have a medical condition - because that kind of panting and gasping is NOT normal for ANY sized dog....

You sound like you have a good head on your shoulders and maybe you could try to work with him more and talk her into taking him in for a vet check ? He sounds petrified of LIFE.

GOOD LUCK !! Poor little guy - your post was hard to read...I feel so bad for him.

simonandhallie · 06-20-2006, 03:49 PM

I recommend you take him to the vet and have a thorough exam. Are you sure the weather wasn't hotter than 70's? These babies can get hot really fast. Did he have water to drink outside?

Also, if you really do not like him (not it) perhaps you should stay away from him. For your benefit and his. That might ease a lot of the anxiety going on with you and him.

Welcome to YT. I hope you can find what you are looking for here.

believev · 06-20-2006, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by simonandhallie

I recommend you take him to the vet and have a thorough exam. Are you sure the weather wasn't hotter than 70's? These babies can get hot really fast. Did he have water to drink outside?

Also, if you really do not like him (not it) perhaps you should stay away from him. For your benefit and his. That might ease a lot of the anxiety going on with you and him.

Welcome to YT. I hope you can find what you are looking for here.

It was no warmer than 70. I was concerned about that from the beginning.
I put a big cold bowl of water next to him which he drank alot of in the short period of time. When he started she brought him inside to air conditioning and it continued. It wasn't just a water or heat thing, this was somethign else

He goes to the vet often and its always a problem b/c of the same reasons. He is especially nervous in the car..and avoiding IT is not plausible because there is noone else to feed and take him out. Believe me if I could jsut walk away from this dog I would.. But I wont walk away from my gf...I need to figure out to calm him down..

believev · 06-20-2006, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by red98vett

Omgosh - I think you're right and he did have a panic attack - they need to socialize that poor baby asap or he really may end up having so much trouble that he really does stop breathing all together - that's really sad he's THAT moritified over leaving his house....

The only other thing I can think of is maybe he DOES have a medical condition - because that kind of panting and gasping is NOT normal for ANY sized dog....

You sound like you have a good head on your shoulders and maybe you could try to work with him more and talk her into taking him in for a vet check ? He sounds petrified of LIFE.

GOOD LUCK !! Poor little guy - your post was hard to read...I feel so bad for him.

red98.. yeah a vet check is the first thing that pops into everyones head. he is regularly taken. He gets groomed and checked out. Aside from his teeth rotting out, probably from the chicken, he's 100%... There was one tiem when I sat with him for 4 or 5 hours and he actually started licking me. i was so shocked. actually kinda excited.. but when i left and came back he was hiding again.. This is soem kind of anxiety disorder. I researched hyperventialltion symptoms and I think that's what happened, but I'm not a doctor. I wish he would relax. Although i'm not his biggest fan, i'd make sure he was happy and well fed. anythign to avoid 5 40 minute round trips every day.

one thing i will note, is he never gets agressive towards me. when I do find him hiding, I pick him up and over time he relaxes.. unfortunately he foorgets between visits that I wont hurt him.. and is frightened when i come back.

BabyFidgette · 06-20-2006, 04:51 PM

Was he a rescue? This just sounds very abnormal for a Yorkie. Every Yorkie that I've met is very outgoing and friendly. Are you sure nothing had happened to him in his past? Maybe from a man in the house? One of your gf's ex's? That's the only thing I can think of which would make him dislike men. Oh, and don't take it personally. I'm sure he wants to like you, he's just had something happen to him and he's afraid. If you're more caring to him and prove your love to him and truly like him (I know you're not crazy about him now) then I'd hope he'd warm up to you. It's not the dog's fault he's like this. He has a disorder. I'm sure you wouldn't "not like" a friend or family member if they had a disorder. Right? I mean, coming onto this forum is proof enough to me that you really care, and I commend you for that. I hope you learn to like the dog even if he never 100% opens up to you. Give it time, keep trying, and don't give up.

believev · 06-20-2006, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyFidgette

Was he a rescue? This just sounds very abnormal for a Yorkie. Every Yorkie that I've met is very outgoing and friendly. Are you sure nothing had happened to him in his past? Maybe from a man in the house? One of your gf's ex's? That's the only thing I can think of which would make him dislike men. Oh, and don't take it personally. I'm sure he wants to like you, he's just had something happen to him and he's afraid. If you're more caring to him and prove your love to him and truly like him (I know you're not crazy about him now) then I'd hope he'd warm up to you. It's not the dog's fault he's like this. He has a disorder. I'm sure you wouldn't "not like" a friend or family member if they had a disorder. Right? I mean, coming onto this forum is proof enough to me that you really care, and I commend you for that. I hope you learn to like the dog even if he never 100% opens up to you. Give it time, keep trying, and don't give up.

everything you said is true. NOT A RESCUE... Yeah I guess I can't say i dont like him. I am angry with him at the moment. You're right, I never thought of an ex boyfriend being mean to him. Maybe he got cracked or something when my gf wasn't looking by antoher young guy. That's definately not out of the question. actually an excellent excellent point.

Thank you.

BabyFidgette · 06-20-2006, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by believev

everything you said is true. NOT A RESCUE... Yeah I guess I can't say i dont like him. I am angry with him at the moment. You're right, I never thought of an ex boyfriend being mean to him. Maybe he got cracked or something when my gf wasn't looking by antoher young guy. That's definately not out of the question. actually an excellent excellent point.

Thank you.

It's a possibility that he's been abused by an ex...especially if she's so crazy about her dog. Some men get very jealous of the relationship with a woman and her dog (There was a story a while ago on YT about a woman who thought her BF was hitting her Yorkie. He was!!!). Or visa versa (man and dog). Before I had a Yorkie, I thought people who were in LOVE with their dogs were crazy! LOL Now that I have Baby, I'm sure people think I'm crazy!

And trust me, I can totally understand that you don't want to drive back and forth a million times a day for a dog that doesn't like you. But maybe try spending more time with him. Or ask the vet for some Doggy Xanax to get him to calm down! LOL

But, good luck!

believev · 06-20-2006, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyFidgette

It's a possibility that he's been abused by an ex...especially if she's so crazy about her dog. Some men get very jealous of the relationship with a woman and her dog (There was a story a while ago on YT about a woman who thought her BF was hitting her Yorkie. He was!!!). Or visa versa (man and dog). Before I had a Yorkie, I thought people who were in LOVE with their dogs were crazy! LOL Now that I have Baby, I'm sure people think I'm crazy!

And trust me, I can totally understand that you don't want to drive back and forth a million times a day for a dog that doesn't like you. But maybe try spending more time with him. Or ask the vet for some Doggy Xanax to get him to calm down! LOL

But, good luck!

Yeah. the more I think about it the more I think that might be part of hte problem. As far as spending more time with it, that's out of the question because when her parents are home her mother doens't let the dog leave her side. So even if I try to pet it she basically tells me to leave it alone "HES TOO AFRAID" she says. it never leaves her side.. that's also part of the problem. when she is there the dog is by her side constantly but when shes goen she wants the dog to have the same sort of treatment only it wont warm up to me because it's almost taught NOT TO associate with me.. She's not rude or impolite with me, but she has on several occasions told me to just let him alone when I try to pet him or let get used to me. so i'm pretty much toast any way i look at it.

the dog has grown up to be a big spoiled fat hairy paris hilton.. it even crapped on my big toe last night when i tried to walk it. I wore flip flops unfortunately. very disgusting

They will be home soon and the dog will go back to normal. This will be forgotten until they leave again and I have to revisit this whole thread. talk about unnecessary stress

BabyFidgette · 06-20-2006, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by believev

Yeah. the more I think about it the more I think that might be part of hte problem. As far as spending more time with it, that's out of the question because when her parents are home her mother doens't let the dog leave her side. So even if I try to pet it she basically tells me to leave it alone "HES TOO AFRAID" she says. it never leaves her side.. that's also part of the problem. when she is there the dog is by her side constantly but when shes goen she wants the dog to have the same sort of treatment only it wont warm up to me because it's almost taught NOT TO associate with me.. She's not rude or impolite with me, but she has on several occasions told me to just let him alone when I try to pet him or let get used to me. so i'm pretty much toast any way i look at it.

the dog has grown up to be a big spoiled fat hairy paris hilton.. it even crapped on my big toe last night when i tried to walk it. I wore sandals unfortunately. what a mess..

They will be home soon and the dog will go back to normal. This will be forgotten until they leave again and I have to revisit this whole thread. talk about unnecessary stress

I'm sorry, I had to laugh when you said he crapped on your toe! No wonder you called him an it! LOL

Well, your gf's mother is babying him to death. And with you around AND she's not there? This dog is going nucking futs!!!! Maybe you should get a Yorkie of your own. Whatdaya say?

believev · 06-20-2006, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyFidgette

I'm sorry, I had to laugh when you said he crapped on your toe! No wonder you called him an it! LOL

Well, your gf's mother is babying him to death. And with you around AND she's not there? This dog is going nucking futs!!!! Maybe you should get a Yorkie of your own. Whatdaya say?

hahah. yeah you're right on.. i feel liek your inside my head. I have been pondering that for many weeks now. I want to get one. I just dont want to get one for the wrong reasons... I will wait until my agitation wears off to make sure i have a clear head for any major decision like that. I do love animals though. Just not fat stinkers that only eat chicken.

thanks again for the input it helped.

TTYS

red98vett · 06-20-2006, 05:41 PM

This has been an interesting thread - and Baby Fidgette has a really good point - maybe there may be an anti anxiety medication would help ? I've heard of vets giving something along the line of doggie Prozak - it may be a question you could bring up to your girlfriend and her mom - (and their Vet) because this yorkie sure seem overly stressed...to the point that it really could be a danger to his health.

BabyFidgette · 06-20-2006, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by believev

hahah. yeah you're right on.. i feel liek your inside my head. I have been pondering that for many weeks now. I want to get one. I just dont want to get one for the wrong reasons... I will wait until my agitation wears off to make sure i have a clear head for any major decision like that. I do love animals though. Just not fat stinkers that only eat chicken.

thanks again for the input it helped.

TTYS

No problem. My Yorkie is 10lbs, and she's considered big for the standard. But, I don't cook her food. She's eats canned and dry. Shoot, I don't cook for myself! LOL Well, glad I could be of some assistance. Take care now! And stop by and visit when you get one of your own so you can show him/her off!

chachi · 06-20-2006, 05:50 PM

Good luck with your girlfriends dog. He sounds like a real stinker. This has been a funny thread to read.

believev · 06-20-2006, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by red98vett

This has been an interesting thread - and Baby Fidgette has a really good point - maybe there may be an anti anxiety medication would help ? I've heard of vets giving something along the line of doggie Prozak - it may be a question you could bring up to your girlfriend and her mom - (and their Vet) because this yorkie sure seem overly stressed...to the point that it really could be a danger to his health.

yeah.. doggie prozak would be great. BUT-I think they will think along these lines (and I cant fault htem here).... they are home more than they are away. The dog is fine when they are home so they should not add any undue medz.. The burden is entirely on everyone except them in this case, and unfair/unfortunate but not the end of the world. I just wish there was a way to make the dog understand the parents will come home eventually and in the mean time no harm will come to it. life cant be that easy though.. especially for me. In the mean time I will get crapped on and hidden from.. but hey.. i'm the human. i'm in charge! right???? yeah right!!!!!

maybe 30 minute trips back and forth to my house in the car??? Has anyone ever heard of a dog dying from being afraid? He doesn't need to be blissful, just comfortable enough to sleep. I can live with that.

06-20-2006, 03:40 PM	#1
believev Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: scranton Posts: 16	MAJOR problem/question any advice is helpful OK... So my girlfriend has a Yorkie. It's 5. Actually it's not hers, because her parents take care of it 99% of the time. I have been going over this house for a year now and from the minute I walked in the door the dog was absolutely mortified of me. It's so bad that it starts to shake immediately and sometimes throws up just from looking at me. With time that got a little better, now it just hides when i come over. She said if it doesn't know someone it always hides. whatever, that's not the issue here. The dog is afraid of me and I think it's not socialized properly. They are all women in that house, and it just thinks i'm going to hurt it.. With that said.... The dog is also incapable of leaving hte house. At least that's what htey say. I found all this to be rediculous until 2 days ago when I convinced her to bring the dog up my house while her parents were away on vacation. I figured it would be easier if we can take care of him without having to run up her house ever couple of hours to feed it and take it out. They really baby this dog, it gets fed better than I do. It gets heated up chicken with all kinds of cheese on it. I consider it to be very spoiled. I have sat with it several times and pet it, and taken it for walks, only to come over the next day and he hides immediately when he hears my car. Anyway.. so we bring it up my house, where we let it hangout by the pool outside with us. It's breezy and about 70degrees not too hot or anything. THe dog is in the shade and it immediatly starts to pant excessivelty. Within about 15 minutes, it was gasping for air and making all these wierd gurgling sounds.. Honestly I dont like this dog.. mostly because it doesn't like me and it's a constant nuisance, but i felt real bad for it here. I really thoguht it was going to die. We took it inside and i left the room so she could be alone with it, thinking it would calm down, but it only got worse. It was taking what seemed like thousands of little gasping breaths every minute. It wasn't getting anthing into his lungs.. I think he was horribly hyperventiallted and just couldn't take any air in. He was able to run around and walk and stuff, but it was making these wierd gasps.. so fast and over and over.. nonstop.. so she asked to take it home and I agreed, with fear that it would just keel over at any moment. Anyway the 15minute ride back he continued.. didn't get worse but didn't take a full breath the entire time. I figured if he wasn't breathing he would have died for sure, but he didn't and a few hours passed, so he was getting air somehow. He was drooling all over the place.. The ride home, i got stuck with him on my lap with a roll of paper towels wiping his face every 2 seconds b/c he was drooling all over the place.. he never stopped gasping for air the entire 15 minute ride anyway.. what can cause a dog to act like that, and is there any way to fix it. If it were up to me I would just make it sit there until it relaxed, but I know thats wrong. This dog needs to calm down b/c the parents are goign away alot now and we dont think it's right that we have to take care of the dog but on the DOG's terms.. we have to drive 15 minutes. take him out, feed him 3 times a day.. ontop of cooking his chicken. it's rediculous. if he could just stay here, he'd be safe and everythign but he was freaking out last time.. any suggestions.. I suspect the dog had a panic attack of some sort and hyperventillated. There was no danger for him and he wouldn't have been hurt, so can he really die from being so nervous? Should I just let him work it out on its own? ANy suggestiosn would help. he really is a cute dog.. he's real fat b/c of the cheese and everythign, but he doesn't pant like that at home ever.. it was definately cuz we took him out of the house. Thanks

06-20-2006, 03:47 PM	#2
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 33,590 Blog Entries: 1	Omgosh - I think you're right and he did have a panic attack - they need to socialize that poor baby asap or he really may end up having so much trouble that he really does stop breathing all together - that's really sad he's THAT moritified over leaving his house.... The only other thing I can think of is maybe he DOES have a medical condition - because that kind of panting and gasping is NOT normal for ANY sized dog.... You sound like you have a good head on your shoulders and maybe you could try to work with him more and talk her into taking him in for a vet check ? He sounds petrified of LIFE. GOOD LUCK !! Poor little guy - your post was hard to read...I feel so bad for him. __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri www.DesignsByVillette.net Custom Address Labels and Note Cards using YOUR Photos! Just Click HERE!

06-20-2006, 04:51 PM	#6
BabyFidgette Learn Yorkie CPR! Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 6,855	Was he a rescue? This just sounds very abnormal for a Yorkie. Every Yorkie that I've met is very outgoing and friendly. Are you sure nothing had happened to him in his past? Maybe from a man in the house? One of your gf's ex's? That's the only thing I can think of which would make him dislike men. Oh, and don't take it personally. I'm sure he wants to like you, he's just had something happen to him and he's afraid. If you're more caring to him and prove your love to him and truly like him (I know you're not crazy about him now) then I'd hope he'd warm up to you. It's not the dog's fault he's like this. He has a disorder. I'm sure you wouldn't "not like" a friend or family member if they had a disorder. Right? I mean, coming onto this forum is proof enough to me that you really care, and I commend you for that. I hope you learn to like the dog even if he never 100% opens up to you. Give it time, keep trying, and don't give up. __________________ Nicole & Baby "The more men I meet, the more I love my Yorkie!"

06-20-2006, 05:41 PM	#12
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 33,590 Blog Entries: 1	This has been an interesting thread - and Baby Fidgette has a really good point - maybe there may be an anti anxiety medication would help ? I've heard of vets giving something along the line of doggie Prozak - it may be a question you could bring up to your girlfriend and her mom - (and their Vet) because this yorkie sure seem overly stressed...to the point that it really could be a danger to his health. __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri www.DesignsByVillette.net Custom Address Labels and Note Cards using YOUR Photos! Just Click HERE!

06-20-2006, 05:50 PM	#14
chachi I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 37,147	Good luck with your girlfriends dog. He sounds like a real stinker. This has been a funny thread to read. __________________ Chachi's & Jewels Mom Jewels http://www.dogster.com/?132431 Chachi http://www.dogster.com/?132427

06-20-2006, 03:49 PM	#3
simonandhallie *I Love My Monkeys!* Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Falling Waters, WV Posts: 11,166	I recommend you take him to the vet and have a thorough exam. Are you sure the weather wasn't hotter than 70's? These babies can get hot really fast. Did he have water to drink outside? Also, if you really do not like him (not it) perhaps you should stay away from him. For your benefit and his. That might ease a lot of the anxiety going on with you and him. Welcome to YT. I hope you can find what you are looking for here.