Questions About a New Yorkie-help

[kelley]

Hello. I have a little male Yorkie-Baxter. He's 1 1/2. A little over a week ago, I went and looked at some female Yorkies. I want another...a girl just for pets-no breeding. Anyway, Baxter is AKC. The puppy (which I haven't picked up yet) is CKC. It didn't bother me at all...at first. I spent 1 1/2 hrs with the breeder. She was VERY nice. I picked out the puppy and put down a deposit. Of course, she isn't mine yet, so I have questions:

I've researched CKC (Continental, not Canadian), and it bothers me a little now that she is CKC registered. It didn't at first because the breeder spent 1 1/2 with me talking about the puppies, etc. She had the sire and dam on site-the sire is AKC and CKC registered. He was almost a champion-his handler became very ill and she had to stop handling him. Anyway, there are 52 champions in his bloodline-including his father and his grandfather. I saw pictures on both of them-they were beautiful! The sire is gorgeus as well. The mother is CKC registered only. She is cute also-babydoll face. Both are definately full-blooded Yorkies. They aren't over sized and have good coloring, very well behaved dogs.

The breeder said the puppy that I chose will get 4.5 lbs tops. She had me sign a contract explaining how everything will work-small contract, no tricky language. She will give a health guarantee when I pick the puppy up, she feeds Eukanuba and will send some home, she said that there is no diseases in either line. She explained to me about hyperglycemia especially in smaller puppies, etc. She said she's never had a problem, but wanted to tell me about it just incase. She gave me her e-mail address, address and phone number, and she encouraged me to stay in touch and send pictures after I taker her home.

She seems like a very reputable breeder. The only thing that bothers me (now that I've heard people say they'd never buy a CKC dog) is the fact that the puppy is CKC.

What do you all think? Would the CKC bother you-even with the time, etc that the breeder took...she seems to really care about the dogs.



Kelley

[PlatinumYorkies]

Well, I've heard if you are not breeding then registration doesn't matter. If it is just a puppy, and you made sure there wasn't any inbreeding, then I THINK you would be OK....

[whispersmom2]

Did this breeder own the male when he was being shown? If not, I am wondering why a show breeder would sell a male with full AKC reg=breeding rights to a female that is CKC.. That is not the usual practice in my area. Has he sired enough litters to have a DNA number?? These are things that jump out at me.
What does her health guarantee cover and for how long? What would be the plan to take care of genetic problems that will not show til the puppy is 6-12 months old? Does she have a take back policy? Have you made an appt with a reputable vet BEFORE you get the baby? That way, you can take it straight to the vet as soon as you get her. Have a stool sample done. Check ears for infection or mites. I can think of a lot more questions but these are some that you need to cover. I personally have not ever seen a line that did not have some health issues even if in the past. I don't know the price you are paying, but if your puppy has genetic problems or illness, no price would buy health.. BTW, have you had Baxter neutered? If not, he could start marking so best to do that right away. Also, it prevents an oops litter til the female is old enough to start heat cycles and/or be spayed. . Best of luck when you get your sweety.

[PinkMartini]

Originally Posted by whispersmom2

Did this breeder own the male when he was being shown? If not, I am wondering why a show breeder would sell a male with full AKC reg=breeding rights to a female that is CKC.. That is not the usual practice in my area.

I was wondering that as well. In my opinion if the pup is going to be a pet, registration shouldn't matter. The only time I'd be worried about akc/ckc/ukc/ect is if you were interested in breeding/showing. If you get a good feeling about the breeder, go for it

[Luvmypupster]

the sire being AKC and sold to a breeder whom is breeding CKC puzzles me. Why would someone do that? I find it odd because someone whom is really "in to showing" is more than likely not going to sell there almost champion dog for breeding to CKC. Now selling the dog for someone else to finish and going on to breeding makes more sense to me.

[kelley]

Yes, Baxter has been neutered. Thanks for the list of questions. Not sure why her dogs are CKC. The handler who owned the male became very sick (life threatening) so she could not continue with the dog. My deposit is nonrefundable, but it was only $100, so if I don't think this is the way to go, loosing the $100 would be better than having a dog that isn't in good health.

So far, I trust the breeder. She's done much more than the breeder I bought Baxter from did, and he is perfect.

I do appreciate the suggestions. I planned on making a vet appt before I pick her up (I still have a month left before she is ready). I didn't know about taking a stool sample though-thank you.

Any additional questions or concerns I should have would be great to know.

One question for you all-since the sire is AKC, is there a way that I can contact AKC to get information on the dog or the breeder? (probably not the breeder, but what about the dog, and what kind of info?)

Kelley

[Angela]

I have 3 beautiful AKC yorkies......I never sent the papers in on, I have them, but I am not breeding them so........it really dosen't matter. I kinda wish I would have, but I got busy and waited too long, now there is a 65.00 fee + reg. fee. Also, many breeders left AKC b/c of all the rate increases. I personally do not like CKC......so I am staying AKC ( showline) until there is something better and everyybody else moves....which may never happen. I returned a puppy 15 minutes after I bought her because I saw she was CKC.....the breeder had my husband sign those CKC papers while I was looking at the puppy.....I probably would have kept her, but I had a bad feeling the way the breeder acted, several things were not right looking back. If you like this breeder and puppy, go for it. I would never pay AKC prices for CKC dogs......just my opion.

Angie

[YorkieRose]

If I liked the puppy, I won't care either, I would get it.
Out of curiousity ask how many points away from his championship was the sire?

[Missy's Mommy]

I think if the puppy is for your pet and not for breeding AKC or CKC doesnt matter. Good luck with your desicion and keep us posted

[Marlee]

ok, here I am with another silly question what does this mean????


Has he sired enough litters to have a DNA number??


Sorry, although I am begining to learn about somethings this is not one I heard of.

thanks for the info

[Victri]

I got Sydnee just because I fell in love with her on sight. She is CKC and I didn't know the difference was a biggie. I don't plan on breeding her but thought she might enjoy showing herself off. Now if I understand correctly she can't because she is CKC? Well she isn't going back no matter what, I probably wouldn't have been able to after the first few moments of meeting her when she was only 3 weeks old. I didn't even know she was CKC till I looked at her papers when he brought her home at 6 weeks; and she is 4 months old now.

Plus. I didn't purchase her my ex-fiance gave her to me for a Christmas gift.

[YorkieRose]

You can get a DNA number before you begin to use the male at stud..but once you have used him and he has produced 3 litters within a year or 7 within a lifetime (I think) then it must be done.
BUT...DNA registered does NOT mean tested for genetic problems..it is a way of ID'ng the sire if there is ever a dispute. The inside of the mouth is swabbed and is on record. It is the sam as with humans..to determine the father of a baby, DNA shows who the father is, not his genetic health...confuses many breeders and when there is a pup with a health problem they refuse to make good on it because they think their male is not responisble..he has been DNA tested,means nothing regarding health.

[whispersmom2]

Yep, YorkieRose is right. The reason I asked was just to make sure you have all the info about him before you get him. As YR said, you will have no need for the DNA number except as a further verification he is what they say he is. I am so sorry to hear that the handler could not finish him. I think that would be so sad for someone to work with a dog as much as is needed to show a dog and then have to stop showing a few points short of CH. Will you be going to see him soon? Have you posted pics of him? If not, when you go see him take pics. You know, we are pic hounds..
You are so lucky to have the opportunity to get such a nice boy...

[Marlee]

Thank you Yorkie Rose and Whispersmom for the info. I had never heard of that before!

[lily's mom]

If you love the puppy, who cares how its registered!! I don't think you can successfully second guess everyone's motives (not that you are). Sounds like a good breeder to me.