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Old 06-06-2006, 03:58 AM   #1
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Hi all. I hope someone can help me out here. Yesterday, I had 2 guys working at my house putting in central air and Louie actually nipped at their pants leg. Now both of my babies get excited/nervous when new people come to the door and they bark ALOT, but then they calm down after someone has been here for 5 minutes. Well these guys were here all day and every single time they had to come in Louie went nuts. It started out with him just going kind of near them and barking and then he made this really mean growling/barking noise and tried to bite them! He thankfully didnt get any further than just the pants (didnt even touch the skin) but it was still an attemp and this is freaking me out. I had to put him in his pen or hold him for the rest of the time they were here. Now, you have to understand, Louie is the sweetest lovliest little dog ever! I dont understand his behaviour and I was embarresed that my baby would act this way. Anyone have any ideas on how to curb behavior like this? I mean just LOOK at this face....does this look like the face of a mean dog? thanks all in advance for your help.
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Now I have no recommendations for you, but just a thought. My Millie is a very sweet natured pup and loves anyone that comes around. She is not nervous, but full of joy and kisses for those that come to our house. If in anyway her behavior changed to growling and nipping at someone, I would not be concerned towards Millie and her behaviour. I would be concerned about whom Millie was growling and nipping at. Dogs tend to sense danger or badness in others. I would trust Millie's instinctual behaviour implicitly! There are just some things they know that we don't!

So maybe your little one knew exactly what he was doing!

I am not saying that the repair man/men would have done anything to you, but maybe their demeanor was less than honorable to your Louie.
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Were the repairmen making a lot of noise? Nikko is very friendly and lovable too but when he hears drilling or banging he goes bonkers. He starts growling and barking his shrill piercing little bark. Last weekend, there were some repairmen in the building fixing up the vacant basement apartment underneath us. They were hammering and drilling and Nikko became unbearable!! Maybe poor little Louie was nervous or anxious because of the noisy people in his home. Just a thought...
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Were the repairmen making a lot of noise? Nikko is very friendly and lovable too but when he hears drilling or banging he goes bonkers. He starts growling and barking his shrill piercing little bark. Last weekend, there were some repairmen in the building fixing up the vacant basement apartment underneath us. They were hammering and drilling and Nikko became unbearable!! Maybe poor little Louie was nervous or anxious because of the noisy people in his home. Just a thought...
Yes they were definately making a LOT of noise. I also had another thought . I was thinking that maybe he does not like guys with workboots on for some reason...I remember that he kind of went a little nuts when my husbands friend comes over and he wears the workboots....usually people take their shoes off when they come in. hmmmmmmmmmm...thanks for your input. it seems like my posts usually dont get much attention for some reason, and I appreciate you taking the time to comment.
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That Louie is a cutie!! If you have had lots of people over and he has never done this before...I would agree he just didn't like these particular people for some reason (and maybe a good one). And it could have been the shoes, my Cooper doesn't like my husband or sons to wear baseball caps and he will take them off their heads every time and then hide them
Anyhow, I wouldn't worry about Louie being agressive unless it happens again. Did they talk to Louie at all or just ignore him?
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That Louie is a cutie!! If you have had lots of people over and he has never done this before...I would agree he just didn't like these particular people for some reason (and maybe a good one). And it could have been the shoes, my Cooper doesn't like my husband or sons to wear baseball caps and he will take them off their heads every time and then hide them
Anyhow, I wouldn't worry about Louie being agressive unless it happens again. Did they talk to Louie at all or just ignore him?
hmmmmm maybe it was the shoes.....and yes they did talk to him and let him smell them and everything but when they would go away and come back he would freak out. It was really awful to see my sweet sweet boy turn monster like that though.
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hmmmmmmmmmm...thanks for your input. it seems like my posts usually dont get much attention for some reason, and I appreciate you taking the time to comment.
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Whatever else might slip through the cracks at YT, everyone seems to jump in and try to help when the thread is about a problem that needs attention.

I can't really contribute anything because we have no experience with it - yet. At least not with people outside the household. Early in the morning, when Bailey is very energetic and very feisty, she will run after me, attacking my pants legs. I tell her no, she stops (but backs off a foot or two and barks for a while to let me know she's not happy about being forbidden this form of play) and we go on. But she does the same thing later in the day or the next morning. I stop her mainly because I don't want her doing it with anyone else, and so far she hasn't. Hope I can get her completely broken from this before it comes up outside the family.
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I just got my Milo at 10 months and was totally undersocialized and has terrible behavioral issues..one is that he is terrified at men and will bark, growl and even lunge and chase at them. He is still growling at my hubby..I took him to a trainer and he says he feels protected by me therefore he feels he can get away with this behavior. Oh he also does the same thing to strangers...but the squirt gun has been very helpful. They do say not to pick them up etc when they are acting this way though..so they don't have you to protect them or coddle them for that behavior? It is soo hard not too. If your case is just an isolated case with these work guys I wouldn't worry too much about it..although it doesn't sound good that he tried to bite them and wouldn't want that to get worse. But if he is fine around other men out side of his family, I wouldn't worry. Could just feel real threatend by big men, making loud noises with work boots on? In that case you can know what to expect and just put him in another room if you need to? Btw, how old is he?
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It doesn't matter who the people are - what they're doing - what they're wearing, etc. You don't want your dog "growling and biting."

You need to place yourself between your dog and these people and move him away from them - at least 10 feet or so. If he goes back toward them, immediately do it again (even before he moves the first few feet, if possible) as many times as you need to. Stand up straight and move your pup with your feet. When he is away from them tell him to stay - the moment he starts toward them - move him back again.

**** I did this with my pup before I ever answered the door. I moved him back and told him to stay....as many times as necessary before I opened the door. Now - he stays back about 10 feet before I open the door - and he does the same thing before anyone leaves also. (But - I do remind and tell him to do this every time.) However - it works!

****** I know dogs are different and what works well for one doesn't work as easily for another. My pup is a submissive little guy and responded very quickly to my moving him back. I am sure a less submissive little dog might require more work. But - it's worth the effort!

**** I do think holding our dogs and trying to comfort and calm them down is probably the worst thing we can do. (They may even interpret this as affection - which is the last thing we want to give them at this time.) I would attach them to a leash somewhere in the house before I would hold them. But being attached to a leash doesn't really teach them what we want them to learn.

***** I can't believe how fast I have trained my pup to stay away from the door when people come or go - and how quickly I trained him to stay away from the table when I'm eating --- by moving him away.

He was constantly sitting at my feet barking and begging whenever I ate. I moved him away three or four times - and immediately got up and went toward him and moveed him back again every time he came toward the table. After only a few times, he turned around and jumped up on a chair and took a nap while I ate my dinner. This was just too easy!

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Thank you all for your input. Louie is almost 2 yrs old. The guys were here again yesterday, and he would bolt for them as soon as they came in so as soon as I knew they were going to come in I would put him in his pen. I tried standing in-between them and making him stay, but he is in such a frenzy that its like he doesnt even notice me...so, for now I guess putting him in the pen is all I can do short of having Caesar Millan come over....hmmmm I wonder what he charges LOL
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Carol Jean gave some excellent advice here and I can only add that it is VERY important to socialize your dog properly..I keep cheerios in a bowl at the door and ask visitors to offer them to our dogs as treats when they arrive. I also carry them with me when we are out and about and allow strangers to treat them when we are greeted.
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