Why Do Groomer's use Bad Judgement? - YorkieTalk.com Forums

artie merlino · 04-16-2005, 02:32 PM

OK. it's been a week since I took both Artie and Abigail to the Groomers,
I have finally calmed down enough to be able to "Vent" in a non-violent manner.
All I wanted her to do was pluck the inside of their ear canals (ear hair) and trim the hair on the edge of their ears, clip their nails, and shave their private parts (sanitary shave).
After a previous Groomer (using Bad Judgement) took it upon herself to clip the hair in between Artie's eyes and near the bridge of his nose! Now I have to tell every Groomer not to do this since, I'm trying to grow it back out

She replied they don't do the ear canals my Vet. has to.....so my Vet. did,
she trimmed their ears crooked and un-even, and only trimmed in between their paws not around their feet.

Still charged me full price as if she did it all, and as if it was done correctly?
I ended up doing both their ears over the right way! And trimming their feet with my own pair of scissors......so basically the only thing she did do right was to shave their behinds and private area. And Luckily my Vet. didn't charge me for theri ear canal plucking!
What's the point of paying a Groomer? Especially if she does worse work than me? I'm definitly not going there anymore!
I guess I just expect too much?
Maybe to do your Job correctly is expecting too much?

I'm really disappointed and pissed, makes me want to get my own "Groomers Degree", just to do it right!

aimee · 04-16-2005, 02:42 PM

I know how you feel. One time I went to the groomers and told them to cut Sandy's body but to leave the face and head (besides the ears) alone as I wanted them to grow out. They ended up cutting her all up, plus cutting her actual skin. I was fit to be tied. It turned out that it was a different groomer than usual and no one let me know

I'm sorry you had such a hard time!

ashley · 04-16-2005, 02:45 PM

i know what you mean, i took roxie to the groomer yesterday, and she gave her a bath, trimmed her face, legs, feet, butt, her pee pee hair, and shaved her ears, and everything is uneven, shave too much off her feet and now they look really skinny,and on her face, her left side is shorter than the right, but i can see her pretty lil eyes now, but she didnt have to take off so much! her ears are so uneven, they look awful, thank god for hair growing back!!

Lyz517 · 04-16-2005, 02:54 PM

I think they get clipper and scissor happy which is why I will be doing my own grooming at home(maybe on rare occasion go to groomer). I do my bichons grooming with no problems and now plan to do my Yorkies also. They never seem to listen to what u want and neither know how to pick up a phone and question whether its ok to do something that had not previously been agreed upon. Sorry I'm still having a lil trouble getting over lookin at my baby.

OOh after ALL the clipping and cutting mine did the one thing I wanted done which was shaving the ears did not get done. Since my hubby had no clue and went to get the dog he didnt say anything. Soo I had to clip once again whatever I could.

eensor · 04-16-2005, 03:42 PM

I took Gracie and Scruffy to a groomer and specifically told her not to cut Scruufy's mustache or Gracies ponytail. When I went to get them guess what???? Scruffy' mustache and beard were gone and Gracie had these stupid looking bangs that I had to let grow out for a year!! I was furious!

leximax · 04-16-2005, 04:58 PM

I am really lucky as my groomers come to my house and I sit there & watch while they do Lexi & Max so nothing gets done that I don't want! They are great!! I wish you all could find someone like them to come to you too!

Passionfruition · 04-16-2005, 05:07 PM

I need to get Sully a puppy cut, soon....but now I'm thinking he may be better off the way he is now than destroyed by a groomer who doesn't know what they are doing - and then I'm out $35 bucks for a big disappointment....hmm... I guess I'd better start asking around town for the most reliable groomer.

I'm sorry to hear about that mess! I am sure I can speak for everyone here and say thank you for warning the rest of us...and good luck finding a good groomer. They exist, surely they do, lol!

SoCalyorkiLvr · 04-16-2005, 05:26 PM

Like Leximax, I also have someone come to the house since I have so many!LOL I thought of a suggestion that might work after reading all the disappointing posts, and that would be that it might help to write down what you want in detail, go over it with the person who will being doing the actual grooming on your dog, and use the dog to demonstrate as you describe it. Better yet would be to have a picture of the perfect "look" you are trying to achieve and attach that to the written description.

I know it's hard to find a good groomer, especially one who really cares and when you do, it is good to tip them well!! This helps a lot because they really want to do what you want so you keep coming back.

Rambo'smama · 04-16-2005, 06:15 PM

I know extactly how you feel. I took my Rambo to the groomer's last month and told them i needed sanitary trim and also wanted his ears to be tipped. but that's all i said to do. She did take it upon herself to cut the top of his hair and also took way too much hair off around his eyes and nose. Now the hair that is growing back is in his lil eyes. I just don't understand the problem. That's not what i wanted at all I was soo mad. Then when it comes time to pay the groomers asks me how much tip would i like to give her. I was so mad that she couldn't wait for me to give it to her. I'm never going back there again so now i have to find another place to take him.

Bentley&BitsysMom · 04-16-2005, 06:17 PM

Finding a good groomer is like finding a needle in a haystack

I know exactly what you mean! I do like my groomer but I have to tell her every time NOT to cut around thier eyes and nose! I hate that! I forgot to tell her this past week when I took Bentley and darned if she didn't do it again!. I'm real picky I know when it comes to my dogs but I can't believe she didn't remember how finatical (is that a word) I am about cutting around thier eyes and nose! It takes so long for it to grow back out and the end between phase is a nightmare cause you cannot get it into the topknot. I think they teach that in doggie grooming school or something. Don't get me wrong, my groomer is sweet and I like her a lot, it just bugs me when someone messes up my babies hair. I've got to get busy....I promised new pics of my pups today and today is almost gone

orinskye · 04-16-2005, 07:35 PM

so many dissapointing stories

.... i didnt have either the money or the courage to let my baby get cut by someone else, so i do it all myself, when i get the clippers out he comes RUNNING... grooming means FUN to my boy

. . . i am really happy that he loves to be groomed, i dont know what ide do if he didnt...... he even lets me cut his nails without a fuss, trim around his face, ...... hes an angel in the grooming area..... for those of you doing the puppycut.... its not that hard to do it yourself.... it is REALLY easy

pspin1975 · 04-16-2005, 08:50 PM

orinskye..how are you able to trim your baby's hair without him fussing. I trimmed my louie's tushy the other day and he yelps and makes me soooooooo friggin' nervous. I start to sweat!

He hates getting his nails clipped to ...he even cries when I brush him. Any suggestions since yours seems to love it...what am I doing wrong?

orinskye · 04-16-2005, 08:58 PM

the breeder i got toby from was a groomer...... so im assuming he was used to it before he came to me because he LOVES bathtime and water, and the grooming is no sweat to him

....... its never really been an issue.... at first with the nails he would get a little nervous, but i would just talk soothingly (and have soothing music playing), and the clippers i have are very gentle, they vibrate a little while they are on so it feels like a massage... and once again i just talk soothingly....... if he gets kinda nervous i just wait until he is ready to start again and he will come right to me when he is ok..... he LOVES to be touched and pet and rubbed, and in my grooming i do alot of that..... i treat him like he is getting a full body massage, i guess i would love it too if that were the case

..... at first his hair was a little too short, but with everything else... it takes time to learn, now i can do it really quickly....... i think in youre case that is key (do it quickly) but maybe try getting him used to the clippers by turning them on but not USING them on him, just talking to him and petting him........

Maddie-Rudy-Mom · 04-16-2005, 10:51 PM

I take my to Petco to the same groomer evertime. I bath them at home ans she does what they call a quick cut, which is the ears, feet and private areas. I walk with one around the store while she grooms the other. It takes less then an hour to do both and only cost $8 dollars a peice. I have head stories about leaving them in the cages with there little feet going through the wire and the dryers getting them to hot. I know a lot of people don't like to take them to Petco or Petmart, but I have been pleased with the groomer here she has been grooming for 15 years and had her own shop. It is hard to find a good one.

artie merlino · 04-17-2005, 06:26 AM

OK. I'm glad it's not me......I thought I was expecting too much?
I just keep repeating "It will grow back"!
I used to go to Petco, I had the same Groomer every time and I did'nt have to say over and over what not to do!
But since we have moved to Myrtle Beach the closest one is a 2 hour drive
each way. It's very frustrating to find a Groomer that will do only what I want done. Not what they think should be done!
I don't know why I trusted them, I don't trust anyone else to do my hair, so from now on I will do theirs too?
Except for the "Sanitary Shave" on their private parts and clip their nails.
I don't trust myself to do that, besides my Husband gets too nervous.
And I do have "Pet Clippers" (I don't use his he would have a fit)

04-16-2005, 02:32 PM	#1
artie merlino YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Myrtle Beach,SC Posts: 566	Why Do Groomer's use Bad Judgement? OK. it's been a week since I took both Artie and Abigail to the Groomers, I have finally calmed down enough to be able to "Vent" in a non-violent manner. All I wanted her to do was pluck the inside of their ear canals (ear hair) and trim the hair on the edge of their ears, clip their nails, and shave their private parts (sanitary shave). After a previous Groomer (using Bad Judgement) took it upon herself to clip the hair in between Artie's eyes and near the bridge of his nose! Now I have to tell every Groomer not to do this since, I'm trying to grow it back out She replied they don't do the ear canals my Vet. has to.....so my Vet. did, she trimmed their ears crooked and un-even, and only trimmed in between their paws not around their feet. Still charged me full price as if she did it all, and as if it was done correctly? I ended up doing both their ears over the right way! And trimming their feet with my own pair of scissors......so basically the only thing she did do right was to shave their behinds and private area. And Luckily my Vet. didn't charge me for theri ear canal plucking! What's the point of paying a Groomer? Especially if she does worse work than me? I'm definitly not going there anymore! I guess I just expect too much? Maybe to do your Job correctly is expecting too much? I'm really disappointed and pissed, makes me want to get my own "Groomers Degree", just to do it right!

04-16-2005, 02:42 PM	#2
aimee The Royal Mommy Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: California Posts: 2,010	I know how you feel. One time I went to the groomers and told them to cut Sandy's body but to leave the face and head (besides the ears) alone as I wanted them to grow out. They ended up cutting her all up, plus cutting her actual skin. I was fit to be tied. It turned out that it was a different groomer than usual and no one let me know I'm sorry you had such a hard time! __________________ (`'·.¸(`'·.¸ ¸.·'´)¸.·'´) «´¨ `·.¸¸.Aimée, Sandy, and Tia.¸¸.·´¨`» (¸.·'´(¸.·'´ `'·.¸)`'·.¸)

04-16-2005, 05:07 PM	#7
Passionfruition Proud of my Sully! Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: beautiful CHARLESTON, S.C. Posts: 5,431	Now I'm Scared! I need to get Sully a puppy cut, soon....but now I'm thinking he may be better off the way he is now than destroyed by a groomer who doesn't know what they are doing - and then I'm out $35 bucks for a big disappointment....hmm... I guess I'd better start asking around town for the most reliable groomer. I'm sorry to hear about that mess! I am sure I can speak for everyone here and say thank you for warning the rest of us...and good luck finding a good groomer. They exist, surely they do, lol! __________________ - - - - - - - - - - - - I love my Sully (the Wonderdog!)

04-16-2005, 06:15 PM	#9
Rambo'smama Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Manhattan Posts: 200	I know extactly how you feel. I took my Rambo to the groomer's last month and told them i needed sanitary trim and also wanted his ears to be tipped. but that's all i said to do. She did take it upon herself to cut the top of his hair and also took way too much hair off around his eyes and nose. Now the hair that is growing back is in his lil eyes. I just don't understand the problem. That's not what i wanted at all I was soo mad. Then when it comes time to pay the groomers asks me how much tip would i like to give her. I was so mad that she couldn't wait for me to give it to her. I'm never going back there again so now i have to find another place to take him. __________________ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...a/104_0450.jpg Rambo's Mama

04-16-2005, 06:17 PM	#10
Bentley&BitsysMom Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Charlotte Posts: 2,836	Finding a good groomer is like finding a needle in a haystack I know exactly what you mean! I do like my groomer but I have to tell her every time NOT to cut around thier eyes and nose! I hate that! I forgot to tell her this past week when I took Bentley and darned if she didn't do it again!. I'm real picky I know when it comes to my dogs but I can't believe she didn't remember how finatical (is that a word) I am about cutting around thier eyes and nose! It takes so long for it to grow back out and the end between phase is a nightmare cause you cannot get it into the topknot. I think they teach that in doggie grooming school or something. Don't get me wrong, my groomer is sweet and I like her a lot, it just bugs me when someone messes up my babies hair. I've got to get busy....I promised new pics of my pups today and today is almost gone __________________ Michelle BENTLEY, BITSY, CHARLIE, & BAILEY'S Mommy Dogster Pagehttp://www.dogster.com/?145000

04-16-2005, 02:45 PM	#3
ashley Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: High Point,NC Posts: 113	i know what you mean, i took roxie to the groomer yesterday, and she gave her a bath, trimmed her face, legs, feet, butt, her pee pee hair, and shaved her ears, and everything is uneven, shave too much off her feet and now they look really skinny,and on her face, her left side is shorter than the right, but i can see her pretty lil eyes now, but she didnt have to take off so much! her ears are so uneven, they look awful, thank god for hair growing back!!

04-16-2005, 02:54 PM	#4
Lyz517 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: PA Posts: 225	I think they get clipper and scissor happy which is why I will be doing my own grooming at home(maybe on rare occasion go to groomer). I do my bichons grooming with no problems and now plan to do my Yorkies also. They never seem to listen to what u want and neither know how to pick up a phone and question whether its ok to do something that had not previously been agreed upon. Sorry I'm still having a lil trouble getting over lookin at my baby. OOh after ALL the clipping and cutting mine did the one thing I wanted done which was shaving the ears did not get done. Since my hubby had no clue and went to get the dog he didnt say anything. Soo I had to clip once again whatever I could.

04-16-2005, 03:42 PM	#5
eensor YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Effingham, Illinois Posts: 2,534	I took Gracie and Scruffy to a groomer and specifically told her not to cut Scruufy's mustache or Gracies ponytail. When I went to get them guess what???? Scruffy' mustache and beard were gone and Gracie had these stupid looking bangs that I had to let grow out for a year!! I was furious!

04-16-2005, 04:58 PM	#6
leximax Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hazleton, PA Posts: 183	I am really lucky as my groomers come to my house and I sit there & watch while they do Lexi & Max so nothing gets done that I don't want! They are great!! I wish you all could find someone like them to come to you too!

04-16-2005, 05:26 PM	#8
SoCalyorkiLvr BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,246	Like Leximax, I also have someone come to the house since I have so many!LOL I thought of a suggestion that might work after reading all the disappointing posts, and that would be that it might help to write down what you want in detail, go over it with the person who will being doing the actual grooming on your dog, and use the dog to demonstrate as you describe it. Better yet would be to have a picture of the perfect "look" you are trying to achieve and attach that to the written description. I know it's hard to find a good groomer, especially one who really cares and when you do, it is good to tip them well!! This helps a lot because they really want to do what you want so you keep coming back.

04-16-2005, 07:35 PM	#11
orinskye YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: California Posts: 2,990	so many dissapointing stories .... i didnt have either the money or the courage to let my baby get cut by someone else, so i do it all myself, when i get the clippers out he comes RUNNING... grooming means FUN to my boy . . . i am really happy that he loves to be groomed, i dont know what ide do if he didnt...... he even lets me cut his nails without a fuss, trim around his face, ...... hes an angel in the grooming area..... for those of you doing the puppycut.... its not that hard to do it yourself.... it is REALLY easy

04-16-2005, 08:50 PM	#12
pspin1975 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: new york Posts: 164	orinskye..how are you able to trim your baby's hair without him fussing. I trimmed my louie's tushy the other day and he yelps and makes me soooooooo friggin' nervous. I start to sweat! He hates getting his nails clipped to ...he even cries when I brush him. Any suggestions since yours seems to love it...what am I doing wrong? __________________ Patty & Louie

04-16-2005, 08:58 PM	#13
orinskye YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: California Posts: 2,990	the breeder i got toby from was a groomer...... so im assuming he was used to it before he came to me because he LOVES bathtime and water, and the grooming is no sweat to him ....... its never really been an issue.... at first with the nails he would get a little nervous, but i would just talk soothingly (and have soothing music playing), and the clippers i have are very gentle, they vibrate a little while they are on so it feels like a massage... and once again i just talk soothingly....... if he gets kinda nervous i just wait until he is ready to start again and he will come right to me when he is ok..... he LOVES to be touched and pet and rubbed, and in my grooming i do alot of that..... i treat him like he is getting a full body massage, i guess i would love it too if that were the case ..... at first his hair was a little too short, but with everything else... it takes time to learn, now i can do it really quickly....... i think in youre case that is key (do it quickly) but maybe try getting him used to the clippers by turning them on but not USING them on him, just talking to him and petting him........

04-16-2005, 10:51 PM	#14
Maddie-Rudy-Mom YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Beaumont, TX Posts: 1,880	I take my to Petco to the same groomer evertime. I bath them at home ans she does what they call a quick cut, which is the ears, feet and private areas. I walk with one around the store while she grooms the other. It takes less then an hour to do both and only cost $8 dollars a peice. I have head stories about leaving them in the cages with there little feet going through the wire and the dryers getting them to hot. I know a lot of people don't like to take them to Petco or Petmart, but I have been pleased with the groomer here she has been grooming for 15 years and had her own shop. It is hard to find a good one. __________________ Cindy, Maddie, Rudy, Polly, Sprout, Angie, and Tucker Rest in peace Lucky 1989-2007

04-17-2005, 06:26 AM	#15
artie merlino YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Myrtle Beach,SC Posts: 566	Thanks for all your Comfort OK. I'm glad it's not me......I thought I was expecting too much? I just keep repeating "It will grow back"! I used to go to Petco, I had the same Groomer every time and I did'nt have to say over and over what not to do! But since we have moved to Myrtle Beach the closest one is a 2 hour drive each way. It's very frustrating to find a Groomer that will do only what I want done. Not what they think should be done! I don't know why I trusted them, I don't trust anyone else to do my hair, so from now on I will do theirs too? Except for the "Sanitary Shave" on their private parts and clip their nails. I don't trust myself to do that, besides my Husband gets too nervous. And I do have "Pet Clippers" (I don't use his he would have a fit)