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04-13-2005, 07:28 AM | #1 |
Stewie Rox the Sox Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago
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| Shady? What do you think? Puppy Mill? I contacted a breeder in Missouri (red lights flashing... ding ding ding!!!) about a Maltese male whose pictures I fell in love with. I am not sure if I was even serious about this puppy or not, but I did it anyway. Here's the sequence of e-mails: Hi XXXXX, I am interested in your Maltese. Do you have his parents on the premises? How much does he cost? How far are you located from Chicago? That is where I live. Thanks! Kristy _____________________ Yes I have his parents. HE is $800. But he would have to be shipped as I am Mo. Mom is 4 pounds and Dad is 5 1/2. HE takes alot after his mom. Goid Bless XXXXX _____________________ Would I be allowed to drive to pick him up and see his parents? Kristy ____________________ I have a picture of Sugarbear that I will attach with this email. He isn't groomed but cut pretty short. I really don't allow people to handle my dogs because of disease. It would only take one time and I could have a big problem. I know you wouldn't do it purposely but you can come in contact and carry the means of speading disease and not know it. I am an hour east of Kansas City. I could meet you part way if you decide you want him. God Bless XXXXX _____________________ Ok, what do you think? Is it common to not let the potential buyer see the pup beforehand because of disease? where is the picture of the other parent?This is strange to me. I want to write back something intelligent and witty. Any suggestions? If you click on the pictures, you can see them (the pictures of the mama dog)
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04-13-2005, 07:35 AM | #2 |
Stewie Rox the Sox Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago
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| I forgot to mention how IRATE and ANNOYED I am with this behavior.
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04-13-2005, 07:43 AM | #3 |
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| you know i usto own 2 little maltese females. and i must say thier great dogs. had to give them up but they went to a fabulous home! anyway looking at this dog i would rather get a puppy that i can see before hand. why in the world would he be trying to sell a dog without showing you what he or she looks like first if you he has nothing to hide why not right. really fishy to me. i would look elsewhere if i were you follow your instinct it never lies! good luck with your search and i hope that this helps a little. |
04-13-2005, 07:46 AM | #4 |
The Royal Mommy Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: California
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| Yeah, that sounds shady to me. I can understand not wanting just ANYONE to come around all the puppies, but a potential buyer? I've read that a good breeder will show you the home, parents, etc with no problems at all.
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04-13-2005, 07:48 AM | #5 |
Stewie Rox the Sox Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago
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| Aimee - I was sure that you woudl think of something good to write back to her! Ideas?
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04-13-2005, 07:52 AM | #6 |
The Royal Mommy Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: California
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| Honestly, hmmm. I would probably write back and let them know that I had done my research and was "on" to them so to speak. "I have read in my research that I shouldn't purchase a puppy without being able to see the living conditions and parents prior to exchanging money" Or something along those line - would be interesting to see how much they back peddle
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04-13-2005, 07:58 AM | #7 |
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| Sounds like "someone" doesn't want you to see how/where the pups are raised? I would think anyone would be more than happy for you to travel that distance to see the baby! I would listen to those "warnings" (red lights flashing... ding ding ding!!!) ... and RUN, FOREST, RUN!!!
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04-13-2005, 08:31 AM | #8 |
YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Arizona
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| Sounds very shady to me.. and also, the dogs you posted look like they have cottony coats and as an owner of a cottony coated Maltese, they are a lot of work in the grooming arena. Not showing the parents is a huge red flag, she probably has tons of breeders and just shows everyone the same two dogs as the parents. Would the pup be registered?
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04-13-2005, 08:43 AM | #9 |
Stewie Rox the Sox Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago
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| The dog was AKC registered & 11 weeks old, just under 2lbs. Here's what I wrote her and her response: XXXXX, I have purchased a Yorkie and a Lab in the past and I have never heard of not being able to see the parents because of the chance of disease. I can understand not allowing strangers come handle your dogs, but a buyer? Thanks for your time, but I would never buy a puppy without being able to see the conditions in which it was raised and it's parents' temperment in person. I am friends with Yorkie breeders/lovers and after consulting with them, they said I should be weary of paying for a puppy whose parents I cannot see and that this seems somewhat shady. thanks, Kristy _________________ That is fine that you are concerned with where you purchase your puppy. Just as I am concerned with my girls. Even if you are a buyer you are still a stanger. I give references if you like. If you will notice there is no pricing on my page. I want to talk with people before I would let them have one of one puppies. If you know some breeders then they should be able to help you find the right breeder for you. Also we have had ladies who raised puppies killed. They gained access to the person on the pretense of getting a puppy. I wish you luck on finding the right puppy. God Bless XXXXX _________________ I don't really understand her response about getting killed? Anyway, I am going to keep looking and hopefully won't make any impulsive decsions about contacting breeders in the future. I'm surprised I wasn't angrier in the e-mail I sent her.
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04-13-2005, 08:50 AM | #10 | |
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that's juss friggin confusing, what does that mean?!? i'm dyin to know?!?
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04-13-2005, 08:52 AM | #11 |
YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: California
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| what she is talking about is similar to what happened in california..... a woman was approached by potential buyers, and then she was held at gunpoint and all her puppies were stolen .... she didnt get killed though, but i suppose some people are more fearful than others |
04-13-2005, 08:56 AM | #12 |
Stewie Rox the Sox Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago
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| I've never heard of that and honestly, I think that though it that occurence is sad, it's a bad excuse to use.
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04-13-2005, 08:56 AM | #13 |
The Royal Mommy Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: California
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| I think she may be referring to that pregnant woman who raised Jack Russels (I think it was) and someone came over and killed her - it was all over the news, very sad story, but probably not something that happens all the time - geez. Defensive much?
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04-13-2005, 09:03 AM | #14 |
YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Arizona
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| There was a breeder killed in Kansas.. here's the CNN story. I guess I can see where she is coming from, but really, how often is that a concern? I think she's just using that as an excuse to not show you her place.
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04-13-2005, 09:10 AM | #15 |
YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: California
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| yes i agree........ aimee are you sure that was for her puppies???? i thought she had killed her and stolen the baby out of her womb and tried to pass it off as hers maybe im talking about a different one . hell i dont know |
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