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03-20-2006, 08:12 AM | #1 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Apr 2005
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| Advise needed for Sire I have been given the opprotunity to adopt a six year old, in tack, 3 pound, AKC male. The cost is high and that is okay if it is the right choice. My concern is the fact that this little male has never bred and his age. The up side is a six year health record. I am already owned by three Yorkies. Two females and my little boy, that is my heart. My sire is 6 pounds, one female is 6 pounds and one female is almost 8 pounds. The larger girl comes from a great line and her parents are 6 and 4.5 pounds. I have great pups but have had several oversized ones. I have no idea where they come from. The girls are half sisters, having the same sire. Both have had a oversized pup. I thought that with a smaller male I could better determine the line. All pups are in great health and temperment, which was my first breeding goal. Now I want to work on the standard more. Question, how difficult is it to have two in tack males as far as companionship. At what age is it no longer feasible to mate a male? Is a 3 pound male too small? Is six years old and never bred a real problem? Should I look elsewhere for a sire? The price is 900.00 and is that too much to pay for him at this age? I am on the fence and yet to meet him but want to go to the meeting with as many facts as possible. Thanks everyone, anxious for answers and advise. Jennie |
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03-20-2006, 11:33 AM | #2 |
YT 6000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Seattle, WA
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| Hi, I'm no breeder, but I have heard that sometimes two boy Yorkies that are not fixed will have battles for supremacy in the house, as in they may fight or mark everywhere to show who's boss. I have heard of 3 pound males mating, and I believe that is the lower limit of breedering for the male and that is generally acceptable in the Yorkie breeder community. Good luck in your search, I hope you get some more answers. |
03-20-2006, 05:03 PM | #3 |
Luv My Bug! Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: california
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| Two intact males unless raised together might have a problem. Before you buy this lil stud I would have someone check his sperm. Six years old and never been bred, he could be sterile or have unhealthy sperm. There's a saying "If you don't use it, You lose it". Check him out thoroughly and Good Luck!
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03-20-2006, 06:24 PM | #4 |
YT Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tennessee
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| I am a breeder and having the sperm checked is an EXCELLENT idea. when they get older their sperm counts drops some, so you get smaller litters. also never having been bred before you don't know what he is producing.size wise coats etc. good luck keep us informed. |
03-21-2006, 08:05 PM | #5 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Apr 2005
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| To all of you, Thanks a lot for your advise. I did indeed have the sperm checked and he has good swimmers. Also, I discovered he was 5 years old and not six. He is a darling boy. One thing I was not happy about was the length of his nose. Right sharp for a good Yorkie. He has a great back line and is a lighter steel blue and lovely gold. He is 3.4 pounds. Another concern I had was his missing teeth. His owner had to have some serious dental work done for him. He is fine now and on the proper nutricional food and regular dental care. After careful consideration and conversations with my own Vet, I declined the offer for him. My little man is quite territorial with me and his little women. I simply did not want to risk anyone getting hurt or being unhappy. I have to consider my ongoing budjet and the level of care I provide for my fur kids. I spoil them awful and I have large vet bills because I partner with my Vet in my little breeding program. All my pups are checked three times before adoption. They have all medical proceedures done by my Vet. I want that professional paper trail and record of every part of their development. It costs, as all us breeders know. I also groom and borad my pups for my owners. This is a service I only offer my pup owners and it takes professional equipment and safe activities and areas. It would break my heart if the two boys got into it and one of the tiny guys got hurt. It is not worth the risk for me. I am still on the look out for a nice little AKC stud for my 6 pound Willow Eve. I am in Virginia but have not found a decent stud here. So if anyone knows of one pretty close, let me know. Willow is a bit long in her body, so a good stud must have a nice standard back line, like my Gizzy, to be considered, as well as all the other regular stuff. HA! Thanks again! Jennie |
05-13-2006, 01:53 PM | #7 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Apr 2005
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| Broken Heart today Sadly I have to tell of a tragic accident to one of my puppies. A new owner had the horrible chore to call me today and let me know that her new baby Yorkie had died last evening. Why, because they did NOT follow my advise and remove her collar when left alone. Her collar got caught on something in their utility room and she strangled to death. She was but 11 weeks and 2.8 pounds. Their 11 year old daughter found the baby when she got home from school. It was too late to spite all their efforts to revive their little "Jewels". I was devastated. It is my first loss out of 18 puppies I have placed in the very best homes I could find. My pups go to their new homes between 10 and 12 weeks, depending on each individual puppy and where they are in their development. Jewels was more then ready for her new home. I do all I can to educate and print off as much information as I can for my owners. We have a long interview and question and answer session before I even give them an application. These were good owners. They made a silly error. Please, please let everyone you know to REMOVE the collars when your puppy is unsupervised. I NEVER< EVER leave a collar on my pups unless I am with them. I color code my pup with nail polish as soon as they begin to outgrow their birth collars, at about 8 days old. They have a color, and with that a number and from that time on they are double coded. The vet uses that same code to record their shots, exams and sex as well as the dam and sire. It is a great and safe way to tell them apart. I had two large litters, two six packs and a litter of four. One six pack and the litter of four were only 8 weeks apart. It is very important to have them coded for rate of growth, who walks first, who eats first, this and that. After the age of 8 weeks or so it is easy to know who is who. They never chew off the polish and I reapply each week when I clip their tiny nails. I buy the polish to match the color of the birth collars so they are alway the same color. I tell my folks to use a harness and put the tags on the harness. If hung up on a harness they may be caught but they will not strangle to death. How horrid. We are all so devastated. Please pass this on as a reminder. Thanks, my friends. Jennie |
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