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Old 03-02-2006, 10:28 AM   #1
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Default Molly doesn't understand 'No'!

This is an extremely annoying habit she has. Please tell me it's just a phase! It's stressing everybody out and we can't enjoy having her anymore (kinda) cause she doesn't understand when we tell her something is bad.
Since we have gotten her she has:
Chased out feet when we walk.
Bitten our noses, lips and hands.
Bitten and chewed practically anything that we're using.
Always thinks your playing when trying tactics for obedience.
Is ALWAYS persistant.

We have tried:
Locking her in a diff room for about 30 seconds.
Holding her mouth shut.
Tapping her on the nose.
Shouting at her.
Yelping when she playbites/chews.
Instead of scolding, simply transfering our hand with a toy.
Ignoring her.

None of these seem to work. It's like she wants to always be naughty. Don't get me wrong, she is a very clever puppy. She knows how to sit, stay and spin and we've only had her for about 3 weeks. She is just very, very persistant and seems to have selective hearing. Honestly, everyone is getting VERY annoyed..

Any ideas for a puppy born to be disobedient?
Any advice would be FANTASTIC.
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Daisy does the same thing.. I have found this one sound that sames to get her attention eveytime.. She stops whatever shes doing and looks at me.. At that point I tell her, No biting.. The sound that I use is sort of like a hiss.. Just quick and short.. She will stop biting, drop something or pretty much whatever I tell her to do after that sound. Even the kids are learning to do that when she nips at them..
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Try a spray bottle with water in it, when Molly is bad, tell her NO in a stern voise while spraying her in the face!
This works for Kloey, so hopefully it will work for you. If I can think of anything else I will let you no.
Good Luck!
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Old 03-02-2006, 10:35 AM   #4
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Thank you! The water bottle sounds like a very good idea cause she hates water so it'll be unpleasant for her.
We've tried several noises, clapping our hands, blowing raspberries, shouting 'AYE!' and random noises like that but she starts growling as if your playing and attacks your hand even more!
Thanks for the advice, it's all really helpful.
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Old 03-02-2006, 10:44 AM   #5
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We just phoned a trainer from a website and she gave us this advice:
Yelp and have no contact with her for about 10 minutes if she's chewing you, if she still does it, with finger and thumb grab the scruff of her neck and give her the slightest little tug/shake. This last tactic is used for chewing things other than us if ignores no, grabbing ankles etc.
She said that we have to act like her mother. She mouths and chews because she played with her brothers and sisters like that, but, the way they told her that she was hurting them is that they yelp and ignore her and thats what we have to do. Also if Molly kept doing that to her sibling her mum would get involved and get the scruff of her neck like we will do.
She said she should get out of them habits quickly.
Wish us luck.
(any other ways would be helpful aswell if these dont work)
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Old 03-02-2006, 10:51 AM   #6
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Default The VERY last option

I wouldn't suggest anybody to do this to their dog UNLESS it's the very last thing you can do.

When we first had Aggie, she was 8 weeks old and just "obnoxious"! She'd chew, she'd bite, she'd chase our leg pants. Barked right back when we said no. It was a head-case. We still loved her but it was difficult.

I read some puppy training books (maybe they're old, who knows?), that suggested you to grab them by their shoulders when their misbehaving and give them a good shake (not too hard). Let go after you hear them yelp or whimper slightly. It's suppose to install a bit of fear.

I was hesitant to try it but even after the bottle spray failed, I had to give it a shot.

It worked! After three times, she knows exactly what "no" means. She'll walk away from whatever she's doing when we say "no", even with a very gentle tone. We make sure to praise her when she's making a good "choice".

I'd definitely make this option the VERY last resort...
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Old 03-02-2006, 10:51 AM   #7
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My Vet told me about this trick years ago and it really has worked on all my dogs, try putting a few coins in a soda can. When she does something you don't like or is dangerous to yourself, children, family or herself shake the can. This works really well on potty training too. They stop whatever they are doing and then you can correct them.

For example if my puppy would stop and start to squat I would shake the can, she would jump but then I could get her outside to potty and then praise her for going outside. They start to associate the negative sound with bad behavior.

I never tried the spray bottle but I know it has worked for a lot of people; this is just another option if you need it.

BTW we had/have those soda cans all around the house the 1st 6 months to a year.


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Lol! I bet it looked weird if people didn't know what you were doing with the cans! Thanks for all the advice.
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It just sounds like your puppy looks at your family as another playmate, not the alpha dog. There are some very good ideas from people. Just remember to be VERY consistant because if you even let her get away with it once, she will always remember that. Just like kids. When my yorkie doesnt listen, I grab her carefully by the scruff, carefully set her on the ground and act like i have my mouth on her neck. Once she stops resisting, I let go. She usually acts submissive and listens to everything I say. We have a constant battle of who is the alpha, because.. well.. shes just too dang cute! lol
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Yeah. I think it's because she's quite young, she still thinks that she should play with us like she played with her brothers and sisters by play fighting.. we just need to make sure that she learns!
Thanks, we'll try to ALWAYS do it.
And I know, it's the eyes isn't it? The way they look at you? :P
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My pup understands "No." He understands it so well that every time I say it - he runs!

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Mitzi is still testing the water She listens when I raise my voice, but it seems to scare her so I try not to do it because she's in the middle of the "peeing when excited/scared" phase. I've been ignoring her lately when she does something wrong. She likes to jump at the face and try and bite my nose. She catches me off guard sometimes and leaves a lovely red mark. When she does this, I yelp, get up and walk away from her, then when I sit back down, I completely ignore her for about 10 minutes. It drives her nuts. She absolutely hates being ignored. She gets all cuddly and sorry and lays by my leg, looking at me with the sad eyes. It seems to be working as she is getting less inclined to jump up at the face.
Whatever you do, Good luck, and let us know how it goes
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I got my puppy for a week, and i have the same problem as you do.
i wanted to ask, did you amde any progress with her?
And if yes, what method helped you?
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My big guy loves the word NO! He hears it so much he likes it! I am trying to make you laugh a little...

Try one thing and be consistent. Dogs, like children react differently to these things. One thing I've seen on Dog Whisper is to say NO! and make a claw with your hand and put it on the dog like you are the mother "biting" on him. Not real hard, just enough for the dog to feel it a little bit. Do it around the neck area.

Good luck! If it is a puppy...give it time. It could take year (around 3 years) to fully have your dog trained! I'm still working on it. It is not easy, but a responsiblity I can't ignore!
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We've tried several noises, clapping our hands, blowing raspberries, shouting 'AYE!'.
Have you ever watched dog borstal?? they use an empty water or coke bottle just the little kind and put pebbles in the bottom. that works everytime first time (on the show anyway) it's on bbc three on mondays at 9pm
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