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Old 01-30-2006, 03:34 AM   #1
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Hi. Rocky is 8 weeks old and I live in Ohio. My children live in San Diego and Chicago. They bought Rocky for me and now I would like to fly to Chicago. I have soooooooooo many questions! I can fly out of Akron Canton, Cleveland or Pittsburgh. But, with his tiny bladder........how can he go outside during the wait???? can I remove him from his cage during the flight? Is there an airline that is better with pets? Thanks in advance. Rocky's mom
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Old 01-30-2006, 04:19 AM   #2
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i had a much shorter flight with my little one flying ual. but the guideline for pets in cabin is that the pet must remain in its carrier for the duration of the flight. the carrier must be able to retain water, ie, if he pees, the pee won't spill onto the plane.

i strongly recommend that you get him to pee and poo before the flight. then walk and exercise the puppy before the flight so he'll have a good sound nap for most of the flight.
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it is going to be difficult for such a young dog to travel this way. I suggest you bring plenty of wee wee pads and change them out often. I suggest you fly as early in the morning as possible. And this is very important: Take direct flights if at all possible.

All the airlines have the same rule. THe dog must stay in the carrier and the carrier must stay under the seat. Some flight attendants will look the other way if you put the carrier on your lap. It is rare to have a flight attendant allow you to take the dog out of the carrier. So I suggest you get your pup used to the carrier now.

My dog is older now, but I try not to feed her the day of the flight until after we arrive at our destination. I only allow a little water. If she seems thirsty, I will allow her to lick an ice cube that I hold in my hand. As we get nearer to our destination (maybe a half hour away), I will give her a snack and some water.

After you arrive, forget about baggage claim. Take the dog STRAIGHT OUTSIDE to pee, then go get your bags.

I have done many cross country trips with Edie that involved making 2 connections and taking 10 hours from door to door. If you have a lot of time, you can take your dog outside during the connections, but check to see that security lines are not too long, or you might miss your connection! Don't forget to take your boarding pass and ID with you--you will need them to get through security again.

If you have not made reservations yet, do it soon. Traveling with a dog in the cabin requires a lot of advance planning. ONly 2 pets are allowed in the cabin. If they already have 2 pet reservations, you won't be allowed on with your pet.
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Are you wee wee pad training? Our Toto is 2 1/2 years and we regularly fly from Grand Junction, CO to Birmingham, AL with her. We try to get the least number of stops and shortest flight times. I don't know about one that small but it's been our experience, because of delays, missed connections, etc., you need to absolutely be prepared. I take more stuff in my carryon for Toto than for myself! Bottled water, little water bowl [we offer her water every chance we get], treats, wee wee pads, extra blankies, extra shirt/sweater, toys and at least 1-2 servings of her food. We have had cancelled flights and had to stay over for next day flights and every other delay you can imagine! We have had great flights with absolutely no problems and had nightmares too exhausting to describe! As long as I have everything I need to make sure that Toto is comfy and prepared for emergencies in her carrier .... she usually does better than we do!! I always fold a wee wee pad and put it under her little blankie inside her carrier just in case she absolutely cannot "hold it". If she does have an accident [and it's rare but can happen] all I have to do is change her pad & blankie, clean her up with wipies and change her shirt! Be sure to take a few large & small ziploc bags to store pee pee blankies/shirts in so your carryon doesn't smell like pee!!

Didn't mean for this to be so long but there are so many things that can happen and I hate to see anyone as shocked/surprised as I have been! Oh, and angry .... did I mention angry?? Bottom line, you will meet lots of great employees of most of the airlines ... but truth be told, there are some who could care less and just treat you like they think "you shoulda left that dog at home!!" It's pure luck when you have an attendant who will actually let you take the baby out of the carrier on the plane ... most will not but will maybe let you hold the carrier on your lap except takeoff/landing which comforts some if they are upset. We always ask first ... it's almost as though they do not like their authority challenged but if you ask, they will usually say yes ... they're still in charge of the decision! Toto understands that she cannot get out and seems to find comfort in a hand slipped in her carrier that she can lick & snuggle!! Good luck!
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You have gotten very good advice from all above. I have flown with my baby girl since she was 11 weeks old. I would fly from South Korea to Houston, that is 22 hours of travel time! She did great. I flew with Northwest cause Continental wouldn't allow a pet on the long leg of 12 hours. My advice- yes- call early for reservation due to only two pets in cabin at one time. Limit food and water until after take off. I also took plenty of things in my carry on. I took my pup to the bathroom alot. I just put the pee pads on the floor of the bathroom and she had no trouble going. It helps if your pup is pee pad trained. I also had baby wipes and would wipe her feet after being in the bathroom and I carried wipes to clean up any of her messes in the bathroom. You might also ck to make sure you don't need state to state vet certificates as you are carrying livestock into another state. I had to have several documents to leave Korea and enter the US. There are serveral online Travel with your pet web sites. I don't think you will have any trouble as long as your baby is use to her travel bag. I kept mine in hers all the time so she felt very comfortable there. You will be surprized at how many people will enjoy your baby while traveling. The flight attendants were always very pleasant and accomadating to me.
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I recently bought a pup from Sylvan (Stacy, who is my mentor) and Feminvestr (Kimberly), who is located in Oregon. Stacy was kind enough to fly to Oregon to pick up Lucy, I'm sure she would have helpful tips about flying, it went very well in spite of the distance.
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I have flown from Michigan to Arizona 7 times last year. I took Lexi with me each time. Make sure your furbaby goes potty before the flight. Lexi is now 1 year old. She never makes a noise unless I get uo to go to the bathroom. So, I take her carrier in the bathroom with me. The cost is $80 each way. Health Cert's are not required now. Don't be surprised if your furbaby gets the shakes. Bring Nutrical with you! A blankie, food, water, some treats, her favorite toy. Might I suggest, a Celltei Backpak-o-pet. It is perfect for flights. Not all airlines allow pets on board.
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That's true--not all airlines allow pets...Specifically, Southwest airlines, and there might be others.

Costs differ. Delta is $50 each way, and USAir is $75. Can't remember what I paid on United. I miss Independence Air--it was only $25.
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united is $80 one way in cabin. $100 one way in cargo.
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I just wanted to clarify that the FAA rules are what require pets be under the seat during takeoff and landing but FAA rules are okay with the pet out at other times. The problem is airline policies and rules that discourage taking the dog out of the carrier. Just don't let the flight attendant tell you that it's FAA rules because it is not except for take off and landing.
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I just wanted to clarify that the FAA rules are what require pets be under the seat during takeoff and landing but FAA rules are okay with the pet out at other times. The problem is airline policies and rules that discourage taking the dog out of the carrier. Just don't let the flight attendant tell you that it's FAA rules because it is not except for take off and landing.
That's true. Unfortunately, the flight attendants have never told me it was FAA rules. They are just enforcing the airline policies (which is part of their jobs), and since all the airlines seem to have the same policies, that doesn't give you anywhere else to go.

Bottom line is--be prepared to have the pup in the bag and under the seat. If you are able to take her out, that's a bonus.

Oh--I have taken Edie out of her bag, wrapped her in a blanket, and held her against my chest. This works best if you are not on the aisle. FLight attendants walked by and never even saw her. It's worth a try if you are seated next to sympathetic travelers....
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That's true. Unfortunately, the flight attendants have never told me it was FAA rules. They are just enforcing the airline policies (which is part of their jobs), and since all the airlines seem to have the same policies, that doesn't give you anywhere else to go.

Bottom line is--be prepared to have the pup in the bag and under the seat. If you are able to take her out, that's a bonus.

Oh--I have taken Edie out of her bag, wrapped her in a blanket, and held her against my chest. This works best if you are not on the aisle. FLight attendants walked by and never even saw her. It's worth a try if you are seated next to sympathetic travelers....
This has been our experience also. The most success we have had is asking permission .... they say OK about 95% of the time! Like I said before, they just like be the one to say it's OK ... kinda like a "hall monitor"! We have also had a few that whisper "I didn't see you do that, OK?" I love these .... they feel the same as we do about the policy of the airline but don't dare defy it!

Best thing to do is follow their rules and kinda "play the rest by ear"!! We also always get a flight certificate ... never have had anyone ask for it, but I always have it anyway along with a copy of our vet records!
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You've gotten some excellent advice here. I only have one thing to add. Buy a tiny halter and nice but light weight leash to use when you do have opportunities to take your puppy outside while traveling. For a puppy, a halter works MUCH better than a collar, and they have some really soft cute fabric ones available.

Wishing you safe and happy traveling!!
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I just wanted to clarify that the FAA rules are what require pets be under the seat during takeoff and landing but FAA rules are okay with the pet out at other times. The problem is airline policies and rules that discourage taking the dog out of the carrier. Just don't let the flight attendant tell you that it's FAA rules because it is not except for take off and landing.
It may not be FAA rules that the pet must stay in the carrier under the seat, but it is airline policy and fortunately or unfortunately, depending on how you view it, the airline's policy is there for the safety and welfare of all passengers and while in the air, what they say, goes.

My brother for instance is very allergic to certain breeds of dogs. He also has bad reactions to most over the counter allergy medications. I can only imagine how bad the flight would be to him if a pet owner of one of those breeds were to have their pet out during the flight or walk pass him to the bathroom. Once the fur and dander is in the air, especially on the plane, it's basically there to stay for the remainder of the flight. And when you have an allergic reaction, believe me, 5 minutes is 5 minutes too long.
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Thank you for all of the good advice. I am presently writing down suggestions and calling airlines for tickets. I will only fly one way and then later my husband is driving to join us. We will drive back. It will be a good way to test the waters. Thanks again. This is my first small dog and I love him soooooooooo much. Rocky's mom
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