Wanted - VERY small girl to buy!

[SirTeddykins]

Originally Posted by canana

Based purely on the information from your posts and what most members believe to be ethical, our response has been that there are no reputable breeders who deliberately breed to sell puppies so small.

Again, as was posted by cj125, here is a list of breeders by state who are listed in the Yorkshire Terrier Club of Ameria, where you may find reputable breeders:
Dog Breeders Map List- The Yorkshire Terrier Club of America

In addition, here is some information on ethics from the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America on the size of Yorkie you're looking for:
http://www.theyorkshireterrierclubof...ocs/Teacup.pdf

Try not to take anything personal. Because everyone's concern is only with the puppy's health. Hopefully you can take a step back and see this too.

But you're absolutely right. No one can control how small a dog you want to buy, after being made aware that there are such high health risks involved. We can only inform you on what's general knowledge, such as the information in the above link about Teacups. And with this knowledge in mind, we cannot recommend further action to do something we don't believe in. It is rather unfortunate. And there are several red flags.

If you're insistent with your plan, then where you fly to pick up the tiny Yorkie is beyond that and maybe more of a discussion you could have with your family and bf instead.

Well said. Thank you x

[Jinger]

Ares55,
As the owner of a very small Yorkie, 3.5 lbs and 6-years old currently, I can tell you of the troubles a VERY small yorkie has (to say nothing of the likely increased troubles that a 2.5 lb or less would have). In our case THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of dollars to keep her alive as a new puppy, MANY health problems and more THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of dollars of care throughout her life. And while money may be no object for you, each of those dollars represents a time when the dog is uncomfortable, sick, in pain, or confused and distraught. There is no room for error when it comes to an eating or drinking issue, (so you better be ready to rush her to the vet every time she doesn't eat for even a day), risky surgeries and teeth cleanings, increased risk for vaccine reactions and anesthesia reactions, increased risk of adverse food reactions, increased eye and teeth issues, increased risk of collapsed trachea, increased risk of getting cold (which can then lead to eating problems...and so on.) The mere fact that you are looking for a dog so tiny DOES in fact seem quite irresponsible to someone just reading this. And I speak from experience. Our dog was a rescue, so I didn't seek her out. EVERY single vet, specialist and surgeon I have been to over the years has commented on the likely genetic problems and poor breeding in such a small dog. Also, anyone should truly spend time thinking about what responsible breeder ships a tiny puppy all the way from Korea? It's shocking to me that anyone would do this. And very, very sad. Both now and in the future as you deal with the outcome of having a teeny tiny puppy and dog (if it lives that long). Perhaps your teeny tiny was the one in a million without issues, or perhaps the worst issues have yet to hit, as four and half years old is so young still.
I say none of this to be overtly critical or attacking, but as a response to someone who has, in fact, asked for help. Help includes warning you from a place of knowledge and experience. I know that it is probably very disappointing to hear some of this from myself and others, but it is important that you hear it. Just consider it before shipping this puppy from Korea. Please.

[Ares55]

You realize I never asked for a breeder that specifically bred for that size, correct? All I asked for was recommendations to breeders that forum members had used and that have pups available or would be having litters soon. I am well aware that there are runts often born to litters and this was what I was originally hoping to find.

Originally Posted by canana

Based purely on the information from your posts and what most members believe to be ethical, our response has been that there are no reputable breeders who deliberately breed to sell puppies so small.

Again, as was posted by cj125, here is a list of breeders by state who are listed in the Yorkshire Terrier Club of Ameria, where you may find reputable breeders:
Dog Breeders Map List- The Yorkshire Terrier Club of America

In addition, here is some information on ethics from the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America on the size of Yorkie you're looking for:
http://www.theyorkshireterrierclubof...ocs/Teacup.pdf

Try not to take anything personal. Because everyone's concern is only with the puppy's health. Hopefully you can take a step back and see this too.

But you're absolutely right. No one can control how small a dog you want to buy, after being made aware that there are such high health risks involved. We can only inform you on what's general knowledge, such as the information in the above link about Teacups. And with this knowledge in mind, we cannot recommend further action to do something we don't believe in. It is rather unfortunate. And there are several red flags.

If you're insistent with your plan, then where you fly to pick up the tiny Yorkie is beyond that and maybe more of a discussion you could have with your family and bf instead.

[Ares55]

Thank you for your message. I'm sorry your pup has health issues, I'm sure she gets great care and lots of love with you. I am aware that these small dogs can have many health problems and I'm trying to prepare us for that in case it happens. I made my boyfriend aware of all of these problems too and he didn't seem discouraged, he feels that they're going to be born anyway and it's better to have one with us than someone that can't afford treatment for them. On this point, I do agree with him. If there's a dog that has health issues, I would rather have it with us than somewhere else. We are home all day and the pup will go everywhere with us so if anything does go wrong we will be there, and our vet is at the end of our street and we also have a vet service available 24/7 if we need it. We are having a contact in Korea take her to the vet to have her checked out next week, hopefully she checks out with a perfect bill of health, but even if she didn't we would still pay for any medical treatments she needed there even if we couldn't bring her home. We won't be shipping her alone anymore. We are looking at hiring a nanny puppy service and I will go get her myself if we can't find one.

Originally Posted by Jinger

Ares55,
As the owner of a very small Yorkie, 3.5 lbs and 6-years old currently, I can tell you of the troubles a VERY small yorkie has (to say nothing of the likely increased troubles that a 2.5 lb or less would have). In our case THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of dollars to keep her alive as a new puppy, MANY health problems and more THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of dollars of care throughout her life. And while money may be no object for you, each of those dollars represents a time when the dog is uncomfortable, sick, in pain, or confused and distraught. There is no room for error when it comes to an eating or drinking issue, (so you better be ready to rush her to the vet every time she doesn't eat for even a day), risky surgeries and teeth cleanings, increased risk for vaccine reactions and anesthesia reactions, increased risk of adverse food reactions, increased eye and teeth issues, increased risk of collapsed trachea, increased risk of getting cold (which can then lead to eating problems...and so on.) The mere fact that you are looking for a dog so tiny DOES in fact seem quite irresponsible to someone just reading this. And I speak from experience. Our dog was a rescue, so I didn't seek her out. EVERY single vet, specialist and surgeon I have been to over the years has commented on the likely genetic problems and poor breeding in such a small dog. Also, anyone should truly spend time thinking about what responsible breeder ships a tiny puppy all the way from Korea? It's shocking to me that anyone would do this. And very, very sad. Both now and in the future as you deal with the outcome of having a teeny tiny puppy and dog (if it lives that long). Perhaps your teeny tiny was the one in a million without issues, or perhaps the worst issues have yet to hit, as four and half years old is so young still.
I say none of this to be overtly critical or attacking, but as a response to someone who has, in fact, asked for help. Help includes warning you from a place of knowledge and experience. I know that it is probably very disappointing to hear some of this from myself and others, but it is important that you hear it. Just consider it before shipping this puppy from Korea. Please.

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by Ares55

Hi everyone, thank you for all your replies.

After a couple months of searching and having no luck with breeders we finally found a breeder that had dogs in Las Vegas and I inquired about them. I fell in love with a cute little girl that I thought was perfect and she was only $3,700, but the breeder let it slip to my boyfriend that she would be 3.5-4 lbs and he didn't want to buy a dog that size.

The breeder mentioned his family in Korea (this is where my bf's last pup was from) would have smaller pups and he managed to find a teeny tiny girl for us. We Skyped with the Korean breeder twice and looked at the conditions there, and they were surprisingly immaculate. We Skyped with the puppy as well and got to see her run around to make sure she was healthy. We ended up buying her (she was $5,800) and she is set to be shipped out in three weeks around April 15th.

Here is my concern, please help if you have any experience with this. I am afraid of shipping a pup this small alone from Korea and would prefer to fly out and bring her back myself but my boyfriend feels it would be dangerous for me to go. The breeder told us this puppy was "around two months old," but to me she looks younger. This worries me because the flight is around 10-11 hours and if she doesn't eat she will have blood sugar problems. I am not an expert at aging pups but something tells me she looks more like 5-6 weeks, and if thats the case I don't want her shipped until she's about 12 weeks old.

Can anyone give an educated guess to how old she is?

Also, we have decided to get her a friend to grow up with but this time it's my choice on which dog we get. I'm looking for another yorkie, boy or girl, but one located in the United States and still small but around 3-5 pounds.

If you're totally set on getting this Korean puppy and feel you have covered *every* single, solitary base you can to somehow get an idea as to the nature of this breeder, and then still feel it's the right decision in all aspects.....

....then, what I'd advise is that you hire a pet courier to pick up this tiny little, living, precious, vulnerable being; it's the right thing to do here. Shipping this pup via cargo is *NOT* a good decision for this little puppy in any way, shape, or form. Please, animal lover-to-animal lover, don't do that . I feel like if you are willing to pay that much for an animal, then you should be willing to pay more to make that animal safe.

I would ask that breeder, via Skype, and without warning - to see the parents, or more of the facility, or whatever else you think would be valuable in any way.

As far as age - she could very well be about 8 wks if she is truly a tiny one.

Just please be careful, cognizant/aware, mindful of what you could be supporting, in the big picture of things. I really cannot say whether or not there are "ethical" breeders doing this kind of thing...? Most would say no, bc of what's being marketed here, as a...commodity. Every action has consequences we can't even see....but would maybe break you if you did. Ya know what I mean? Tread carefully.

I do think, though, that it's very possible to have a dog this size who is perfectly healthy, just smaller. Size does not define health. I do wish you and this puppy the best of luck!

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

Im pretty sure that puppy has hydrocephalus. I wouldn't get that pup let alone ship it by itself.

I don't think that's necessarily true, but I could see where part of you might think that initially due to wider-spaced eyes like this. But the tiny ones (my Marcel included, who is 4.5lbs, but seems almost tinier for some reason...?) can look *exactly* like this as healthy puppies.

The clinical gal in you will like this stuff too - remember Jrsygal's (Elaine) "Jersey" - who had hydro, but looked just like any other yorkie, here.

Also, a Dx of hydro can't be done without the clinical signs (Clinical signs are similar to those of congenital hydrocephalus and include changes in behavior or training, circling, head pressing (a term used for pressing of the head up against a wall or other structure), listlessness, loss of vision, pacing, restlessness, and seizures. - from VCA Hospitals) -- and U/S, CT, MRI, and EEGs also can be done.

[Rosy1013]

Been following your story... I do hope you let us know if they puppy arrives safely!

[Ares55]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

If you're totally set on getting this Korean puppy and feel you have covered *every* single, solitary base you can to somehow get an idea as to the nature of this breeder, and then still feel it's the right decision in all aspects.....

....then, what I'd advise is that you hire a pet courier to pick up this tiny little, living, precious, vulnerable being; it's the right thing to do here. Shipping this pup via cargo is *NOT* a good decision for this little puppy in any way, shape, or form. Please, animal lover-to-animal lover, don't do that . I feel like if you are willing to pay that much for an animal, then you should be willing to pay more to make that animal safe.

I would ask that breeder, via Skype, and without warning - to see the parents, or more of the facility, or whatever else you think would be valuable in any way.

As far as age - she could very well be about 8 wks if she is truly a tiny one.

Just please be careful, cognizant/aware, mindful of what you could be supporting, in the big picture of things. I really cannot say whether or not there are "ethical" breeders doing this kind of thing...? Most would say no, bc of what's being marketed here, as a...commodity. Every action has consequences we can't even see....but would maybe break you if you did. Ya know what I mean? Tread carefully.

I do think, though, that it's very possible to have a dog this size who is perfectly healthy, just smaller. Size does not define health. I do wish you and this puppy the best of luck!




I don't think that's necessarily true, but I could see where part of you might think that initially due to wider-spaced eyes like this. But the tiny ones (my Marcel included, who is 4.5lbs, but seems almost tinier for some reason...?) can look *exactly* like this as healthy puppies.

The clinical gal in you will like this stuff too - remember Jrsygal's (Elaine) "Jersey" - who had hydro, but looked just like any other yorkie, here.

Also, a Dx of hydro can't be done without the clinical signs (Clinical signs are similar to those of congenital hydrocephalus and include changes in behavior or training, circling, head pressing (a term used for pressing of the head up against a wall or other structure), listlessness, loss of vision, pacing, restlessness, and seizures. - from VCA Hospitals) -- and U/S, CT, MRI, and EEGs also can be done.

Thank you Wylie's Mom, all your posts have been super helpful. I also am against shipping her via cargo as well. I just got done sending some messages to a military family I know in Seoul (I'm prior military) and they agreed to take her in for a vet visit and to also escort me from the airport to her so I can pick her up and bring her back with me. We are still looking for a puppy nanny service but it seems that would be more expensive than me just going and getting her and I would feel better if it was me doing it. My boyfriend is against me going to get her because he thinks Seoul is hostile to women (?) but another military friend that was stationed there said it's fairly safe and just to avoid a place called Itaewon, and he speaks Korean so he can help me through any bumps I run into.

We did Skype with the breeder a couple times, once we called very off guard and they answered and the place seemed very clean and large. I was quite surprised to see it so clean, it kind of looked like a veterinary office here in the US. I've heard that dogs aren't treated very well there and some are even eaten, so I kind of expected to see them in terrible conditions. I'm glad I didn't see any of that.

I'll keep you updated on her vet appointment and the travel arrangements

[Ares55]

Originally Posted by Rosy1013

Been following your story... I do hope you let us know if they puppy arrives safely!

Thank you! I do plan on keeping everyone updated and I'll try to post photos along the way.

[Yorkiex]

Originally Posted by Ares55

Thank you Wylie's Mom, all your posts have been super helpful. I also am against shipping her via cargo as well. I just got done sending some messages to a military family I know in Seoul (I'm prior military) and they agreed to take her in for a vet visit and to also escort me from the airport to her so I can pick her up and bring her back with me. We are still looking for a puppy nanny service but it seems that would be more expensive than me just going and getting her and I would feel better if it was me doing it. My boyfriend is against me going to get her because he thinks Seoul is hostile to women (?) but another military friend that was stationed there said it's fairly safe and just to avoid a place called Itaewon, and he speaks Korean so he can help me through any bumps I run into.

We did Skype with the breeder a couple times, once we called very off guard and they answered and the place seemed very clean and large. I was quite surprised to see it so clean, it kind of looked like a veterinary office here in the US. I've heard that dogs aren't treated very well there and some are even eaten, so I kind of expected to see them in terrible conditions. I'm glad I didn't see any of that.

I'll keep you updated on her vet appointment and the travel arrangements

I'm glad you're deciding on going and getting her personally. I just picked up my tiny from the airport last week and he flew 13 hours by himself and to say I didn't sleep the night before is an understatement. He's 13 weeks and weighs 2 pounds and he's TIIIINY. In fact, I'm extremely careful with him 24/7 because of how tiny and delicate he is. As long as the puppy checks out with a clean bill of health and you're with her 24/7 on the flight I think you'll be okay. I'm HUUUUUGE on Korea and everything Korean and I know the "tiny puppy" craze is huge over there and TOOOONS of people over there buy those teacups; also for the price you paid I don't think you have anything to worry about. I paid about 1/4 of what you paid for your dog but he's definitely not going to be 2.5 pounds full grown, maybe 3.5-4 pounds I'm thinking. I would feel too uncomfortable with him being any smaller than that I think lol! Anyway, keep us posted and share pictures once you get her!

[FlyingNimbus]

Originally Posted by DBlain

OMG

very sad to read this, i would like to say more but would probably loose my membership and it's not worth it for those that choose not to take advice from people that have more experience that your @&F boyfriend. I sure hope you get what you are expecting and God help that poor little puppy being shipped like cargo all the way from Korea Good luck with the boyfriend and don't get to attached to the puppy.............

I am rather disgusted when reading that as well... I don't mean any offense, but I really don't think you should be trying to replace a dog with another dog, like people all living beings(that includes dogs) are irreplaceable.

To try to replace one dog with another in my honest opinion/point of view is a bit off putting in the sense that if you lost someone you loved you wouldn't ever say something like that.. I mean I know people probably think it's just an animal but there's more to it than that. Yeah all yorkies tend to look alike in color, coat, etc. But each single one of them are different and unique in their own way.

Just like I wouldn't want to replace my now deceased grandmother, or even the first dog our family owned. It may sound silly, but to me family is family whether it's a human, a dog, a cat, or heck even a fish- and you don't replace family. However that is entirely my own point of view, I view that as undying loyalty I guess.

I do understand that it's not you that doesn't want a bigger dog; but maybe you can try to help him realize there is no replacement for that which is lost, it's not the same as loosing your cellphone, you can replace a cellphone as it is a possession, a tool, an item but you can't replace a living being.

However if he got a new dog, he should understand they are not the same, but just like the last he/she may and probably will come to love you just as well.

It does suck to loose a loved one, he should just keep her in his heart is all. You know, people, animals, living beings all have to die eventually; but the love you and/or they had for you does not ever die if you keep them in your heart.

Sappy I know, just a thought.

[airplane]

Originally Posted by Ares55

Who are you to judge what is ethical or unethical and if I have acted in any unethical way at all? Just because YOU don't agree with buying small yorkies doesn't mean that WE can't, YOU don't control other people.

I came on this forum looking for suggestions on breeders that some of you could recommend so that we didn't have to buy from Korea or another foreign place, and guess what, only two people were actually helpful, the other comments were like yours and entirely unnecessary. Then, I wrote that I want to fly to Korea myself and fly home with her to make sure she's safe, but you judge me to be unethical? Your opinion of me can go where the sun doesn't shine.

Here's a bit of stinging truth for you: This forum runs on donations, do you think new members are going to want to join and donate when people like you go about writing rude comments about other peoples actions? Do you think the owners of this forum are going to want to keep people like you around when you're so off-putting to other members? I doubt it.

Here's some more stinging truth: People want these dogs and they will go to great lengths to get them and spend great amounts of money on them. Instead of sitting around berating people searching for them on here, why not actually send them helpful information to a breeder you know that sometimes has small pups so that they don't go find a dog on Craigslist or a random website or some hoarding breeder out in Iowa or someplace. These dogs are born, it happens, there's nothing you can do to stop it and there's absolutely nothing you can do to stop people from buying them.

You are part of the problem, not the breeders in Korea.

There was a different way to respond than to say that.

Y'know, I'm really sad about the decisions you and your boyfriend have made. This is an online community and most everyone tries to give good advice and be helpful. And the points people are making, they are valid. And if your boyfriend has his heart set on a smaller sized yorkie, if you're willing to maybe wait awhile, you can get that from good solid reputable breeders. There's many in the country, heck I even know one close to you in San Francisco. As you know, breeders who breed for standard size do end up with smaller ones on occasion, as well as larger ones too. That can happen every once in awhile. I just can't wrap my head around the crazy price. You are really overpaying for a pet yorkie. 5800 if I'm not mistaken is up in the price range that's something you'd maybe expect for a show dog. It's definitely way up there for a pet. And the breeder doesn't even know the date of birth. I actually thought that was a joke.

I don't know what type of responses you were expecting from people when you made your post, but I'm just really sad that size has taken priority over far more important factors. There's a science to breeding, and that science needs to be put towards those more important factors (health, for example). That's what most people care the most about. They want a breeder who is known to produce healthy dogs. I just don't understand why you wouldn't wait and find a good breeder who will, cause they all do, have a smaller dog on occasion. The whole Korean tiny puppy craze, it's just so unfortunate. Those breeders are not bettering the breed. And I couldn't imagine anybody supporting that. But I guess if you just want a puppy right now and all you care about is size, then I guess there you go.

[FlyingNimbus]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

Just please be careful, cognizant/aware, mindful of what you could be supporting, in the big picture of things. I really cannot say whether or not there are "ethical" breeders doing this kind of thing...? Most would say no, bc of what's being marketed here, as a...commodity. Every action has consequences we can't even see....but would maybe break you if you did. Ya know what I mean? Tread carefully.

I do think, though, that it's very possible to have a dog this size who is perfectly healthy, just smaller. Size does not define health. I do wish you and this puppy the best of luck!




I don't think that's necessarily true, but I could see where part of you might think that initially due to wider-spaced eyes like this. But the tiny ones (my Marcel included, who is 4.5lbs, but seems almost tinier for some reason...?) can look *exactly* like this as healthy puppies.

The clinical gal in you will like this stuff too - remember Jrsygal's (Elaine) "Jersey" - who had hydro, but looked just like any other yorkie, here.

Also, a Dx of hydro can't be done without the clinical signs (Clinical signs are similar to those of congenital hydrocephalus and include changes in behavior or training, circling, head pressing (a term used for pressing of the head up against a wall or other structure), listlessness, loss of vision, pacing, restlessness, and seizures. - from VCA Hospitals) -- and U/S, CT, MRI, and EEGs also can be done.

Like what you said, if she's really set on having this tiny tiny dog she should tread really cautious/carefully... You may sometimes find that things aren't always what they look like.

I understand she's from a far away part of the US, but over here, in PA there are plenty of puppy mills who I have read stories/articles about finding the dogs in really poor conditions.

I recall reading one where they were kept in a totally separate area, they were told to stay/wait in the house or by front of the house only to see them go into a barn in the backyard, and pick up the dog. The dog would look very ill and sickly.

Other times they'd be allowed to see where the dogs are which usually meant in their barn only to find that there were tons of different dog breeds in there and all of them were in really gross and tiny cages. Too small to even move much and the dogs looked like they haven't been out of those cages much less seen sunlight in a long time. The parents would look malnourished, occasionally a dead dog would be found... the animals were kept in really filthy conditions, looked like they never been bathed in ages.

Sometimes the puppies would look way too young to be sold, most of them would come with papers or registration to some pet club that just about anyone with money could get admitted to. Forgot which club it was, but it wasn't one of the more legitimate and recognizable ones. More like one that's like a clone of that but all you had to do was just pay them some bucks and they'd register the dog-- even mix breeds would be able to register.



My point is, not everything is as it appears and one should take extreme caution when doing one of these "transactions".

You maybe even given a legit looking guarantee but if you actually sit down and read it you can tell it's made so that you'd get screwed over regardless.

My worry is that in her going over there and paying a gross amount of money for an out of standard dog that may not even have legitimate papers is just going to keep giving them a reason to continue.

[FlyingNimbus]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

If you're totally set on getting this Korean puppy and feel you have covered *every* single, solitary base you can to somehow get an idea as to the nature of this breeder, and then still feel it's the right decision in all aspects.....

....then, what I'd advise is that you hire a pet courier to pick up this tiny little, living, precious, vulnerable being; it's the right thing to do here. Shipping this pup via cargo is *NOT* a good decision for this little puppy in any way, shape, or form. Please, animal lover-to-animal lover, don't do that . I feel like if you are willing to pay that much for an animal, then you should be willing to pay more to make that animal safe.

I would ask that breeder, via Skype, and without warning - to see the parents, or more of the facility, or whatever else you think would be valuable in any way.

As far as age - she could very well be about 8 wks if she is truly a tiny one.

Just please be careful, cognizant/aware, mindful of what you could be supporting, in the big picture of things. I really cannot say whether or not there are "ethical" breeders doing this kind of thing...? Most would say no, bc of what's being marketed here, as a...commodity. Every action has consequences we can't even see....but would maybe break you if you did. Ya know what I mean? Tread carefully.

I do think, though, that it's very possible to have a dog this size who is perfectly healthy, just smaller. Size does not define health. I do wish you and this puppy the best of luck!




I don't think that's necessarily true, but I could see where part of you might think that initially due to wider-spaced eyes like this. But the tiny ones (my Marcel included, who is 4.5lbs, but seems almost tinier for some reason...?) can look *exactly* like this as healthy puppies.

The clinical gal in you will like this stuff too - remember Jrsygal's (Elaine) "Jersey" - who had hydro, but looked just like any other yorkie, here.

Also, a Dx of hydro can't be done without the clinical signs (Clinical signs are similar to those of congenital hydrocephalus and include changes in behavior or training, circling, head pressing (a term used for pressing of the head up against a wall or other structure), listlessness, loss of vision, pacing, restlessness, and seizures. - from VCA Hospitals) -- and U/S, CT, MRI, and EEGs also can be done.

Originally Posted by cj125

You may not like what she's doing but she is NOT doing it in an "unethical manner" - lol! She came to a Yorkie forum looking for some helpful information - better that than running to the local backyard breeder - don't ya think?

There are no guarantee's in LIFE - much less breeding.

Breeders - on occasion - have tiny ones. But again, no one knows exactly when. If they do get a tiny one - they keep them a lot longer to make sure they're ok when they go to a new home.

Here's the link to the national Yorkie club. They list breeders by state.

Yorkshire Terrier Dog Breeders- Yorkie Puppies

I do agree somewhat, small dogs are born, it's not 100% preventable and it doesn't make someone a bad person for taking that said dog off their hands knowing fully well that said dog may or may not have a higher chance of having severe health issues. I would applaud them for that.

If you were to say that said person only bought it from said reputable breeder because he/she just so happened to stumble upon it.


But my take on things is as follow, if you are personally insisting on very small dog and even offer to pay them an even greater amount that is basically more than enough reason for them to "accidentally" breed smaller dogs, as she said there are people out there purposely seeking them out and that apparently it's a craze in Korea.

Even though said craze would imply that the dog is more than likely literary just a fashion accessory and easily replaceable in their eyes... I have personally witnessed people with that mindset, I am sad to say I -had- a friend who had that mind set.

Though, I don't personally blame her because she is just trying to be accommodating to her boyfriend. However I do not condone lining up the pockets of people purposely breeding for smaller dogs. Yes it is possible that a small dog like that could be healthy as size is relative. Yorkshire terriers originally were much larger and bulkier than currently now and were thus bred down to size for accommodation or other trivial reasons...

My only problem is that lining up the pockets of said "breeders" could potentially make them and their friends a bit more "ambitious" to say it nicely(greed is the word I am looking for), and when someone is interested only in money they can and will cut corners where they shouldn't such as health testing the parents for genetic conditions/illness. They may not socialize them properly because now instead of breeding a few dogs, let's breed more dogs because more dogs means more money. However more dog also means less time to properly try to socialize them early on, less time to attempt to train them in the basics, and less time to personally inspect each puppy to see if they're all healthy.

Like I said on a previous post; just because something looks a certain way doesn't really mean it is that way. Should really be looking at the overall picture.

I personally want what people would call a designer breed, because I find the mystery somewhat fascinating, and to be honest I am not sure if you guys have ever seen certain dog breeds mixed with others and how amazing the outcome can be. One example being take the basset hound, beautiful dogs on their own, but very beautiful as well if mixed with other breeds such as a black lab, a golden retriever, or heck imagine a basset x maltese or basset x poodle, or basset x saint bernard.

However, like it was explained to me earlier on the likelihood of people breeding them with the pure intent of bettering the breed or making new breeds for actual interest in them asides "fun" or money is rather slim.

I personally checked out all of the mixed breeders in my state and every surrounding state and most of said breeders looked like either puppy mills or backyard breeders, with little to no care and if something happened to the dog they'd probably just shrug because the attitude received from reading their contracts, their information doesn't really sound all that favorable.


In short a small dog may not even be entirely a bad thing if they were carefully/responsibly bred and all, it's more of what it entails that fazes me.

Such as now said breeder will tell his friends of how much money he made from one person who desperately wanted it, and now he and his friends will make more efforts to pursue such things.

If it would only create more concious people who actually cared about what was under their care rather than treating them like pup money makers...

[Ares55]

Thank you! Maybe ours can speak puppy Korean to each other If that's him in your profile picture he is really adorable. I'm glad he made it home to you safely!

Originally Posted by Yorkiex

I'm glad you're deciding on going and getting her personally. I just picked up my tiny from the airport last week and he flew 13 hours by himself and to say I didn't sleep the night before is an understatement. He's 13 weeks and weighs 2 pounds and he's TIIIINY. In fact, I'm extremely careful with him 24/7 because of how tiny and delicate he is. As long as the puppy checks out with a clean bill of health and you're with her 24/7 on the flight I think you'll be okay. I'm HUUUUUGE on Korea and everything Korean and I know the "tiny puppy" craze is huge over there and TOOOONS of people over there buy those teacups; also for the price you paid I don't think you have anything to worry about. I paid about 1/4 of what you paid for your dog but he's definitely not going to be 2.5 pounds full grown, maybe 3.5-4 pounds I'm thinking. I would feel too uncomfortable with him being any smaller than that I think lol! Anyway, keep us posted and share pictures once you get her!

[Yorkiex]

Originally Posted by Ares55

Thank you! Maybe ours can speak puppy Korean to each other If that's him in your profile picture he is really adorable. I'm glad he made it home to you safely!

Haha maybe they can! That's little baby Leo! I'm obsessed with him. I can't even imagine a smaller puppy than him lol! He did. I was a nervous wreck and barely slept the night before but I survived lol!