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Old 01-19-2017, 11:10 AM   #1
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Thank you all for your condolences regarding Boomer and his loss. Thumper is really taking it hard. I started him on Prozac but the vet said it will take a while to kick in. Some issues Thumper is having I don't know what to be really concerned with or how to help him. I am just looking for some advice. I have to force his Prozac down his throat because he refuses to eat. It is really sad and I do not like it.


1. He is holding his pee. Thumper is pee pad trained but is now refusing to use them. He waits to be walked and at times will hold his pee for up to 12 hours. I know this isn't good. He hates the rain and snow and refuses to go out.


2. Barely drinks but I understand this. He will take maybe one big sip throughout the day and then a couple other sips. How can I encourage him to drink more. I tried chicken stock and that did not work.


3. Sleeps and looks sad all day long. He will occasionally walk around like he is looking for someone but mostly just lays on the edge of the bed. I tried playing with him and he has no interest in his toys.


4. Will not eat. I have to hand feed him and then only takes the bare minimum. No longer will eat dry food only wet food and only a few table spoons. He is 15 pounds so this is not enough to sustain him. I have left his dry food out hoping when he gets hungry he will eat. He pushes it away with his nose and tries to flip the bowl over and just makes a huge mess. He always ate everything in sight. Now he is super picky. Refusing his usual food and special food I have made him. I don't want to cater too much so he thinks this is the norm and he gets treats every night and not his regular food.


5. Shakes when I leave. Doesn't bark anymore (use to when left alone) now just lays there.


I am trying not to bug the vet too much since I know some of this is just him grieving. Also, I just changed his insurances and have a 2 week waiting period otherwise anything is considered pre-existing. I am trying to avoid this at all costs. My dog walker spends about 1-2 hours a day with him and I go straight home from work to be with him. I will be home all weekend and will not leave him. I will admit my naturally tendency is to over compensate and worry. I like structure and routine and when it goes away I do not do well. So I am freaking out in my head telling myself this is all natural.


However, how do I know what is an emergency or should be seen by the vet and what is only the grieving process. That is what I am having trouble differentiating.


I am very so worried about Thumper I can't properly grieve myself.
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The only thing that helped Peek a Boo out of his depression was getting another dog. He hated the first one Tinkerbell, so I found Sapphire who he instantly fell head over heels in love with. But then I had to get another dog so Tink wouldn't feel left out.
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The only thing that helped Peek a Boo out of his depression was getting another dog. He hated the first one Tinkerbell, so I found Sapphire who he instantly fell head over heels in love with. But then I had to get another dog so Tink wouldn't feel left out.

You may be right. He went for a walk with his friend today and gave her a kiss and wasn't trying to tug at the leash to go home according to the dog walker. Thumper is by nature a loner doesn't care about other dogs but likes to know someone is there. He and his brother wouldn't necessarily play together but just lay curled up together and kiss/lick each other.


I have been looking but I want another male yorkie around 1-4 years old. Right now in my area the adoptable yorkies are older/senior or not exactly what I am looking for. I am also hoping to find one locally so I can bring Thumper and make sure that they get along before adopting.
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You may be right. He went for a walk with his friend today and gave her a kiss and wasn't trying to tug at the leash to go home according to the dog walker. Thumper is by nature a loner doesn't care about other dogs but likes to know someone is there. He and his brother wouldn't necessarily play together but just lay curled up together and kiss/lick each other.


I have been looking but I want another male yorkie around 1-4 years old. Right now in my area the adoptable yorkies are older/senior or not exactly what I am looking for. I am also hoping to find one locally so I can bring Thumper and make sure that they get along before adopting.
We took Peek to meet Tink at the humane society before adopting her. They were both in a strange place with other dogs around and I really don't think they displayed their true personalities there. Once they came home, I saw they were both trying to be the Alpha dog, which was hysterically funny as Tink was 4 x the size of Peek. They both had to be first at everything all the time... They even got stuck trying to beat each other through the doggy door!

They learned from me that fighting is not tolerated in my house, and eventually would just have growling matches when they disagreed with each other.
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They even got stuck trying to beat each other through the doggy door!
Wow, what an image that must have been! LOL
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Thank you all for your condolences regarding Boomer and his loss. Thumper is really taking it hard. I started him on Prozac but the vet said it will take a while to kick in. Some issues Thumper is having I don't know what to be really concerned with or how to help him. I am just looking for some advice. I have to force his Prozac down his throat because he refuses to eat. It is really sad and I do not like it.


1. He is holding his pee. Thumper is pee pad trained but is now refusing to use them. He waits to be walked and at times will hold his pee for up to 12 hours. I know this isn't good. He hates the rain and snow and refuses to go out.


2. Barely drinks but I understand this. He will take maybe one big sip throughout the day and then a couple other sips. How can I encourage him to drink more. I tried chicken stock and that did not work.


3. Sleeps and looks sad all day long. He will occasionally walk around like he is looking for someone but mostly just lays on the edge of the bed. I tried playing with him and he has no interest in his toys.


4. Will not eat. I have to hand feed him and then only takes the bare minimum. No longer will eat dry food only wet food and only a few table spoons. He is 15 pounds so this is not enough to sustain him. I have left his dry food out hoping when he gets hungry he will eat. He pushes it away with his nose and tries to flip the bowl over and just makes a huge mess. He always ate everything in sight. Now he is super picky. Refusing his usual food and special food I have made him. I don't want to cater too much so he thinks this is the norm and he gets treats every night and not his regular food.


5. Shakes when I leave. Doesn't bark anymore (use to when left alone) now just lays there.


I am trying not to bug the vet too much since I know some of this is just him grieving. Also, I just changed his insurances and have a 2 week waiting period otherwise anything is considered pre-existing. I am trying to avoid this at all costs. My dog walker spends about 1-2 hours a day with him and I go straight home from work to be with him. I will be home all weekend and will not leave him. I will admit my naturally tendency is to over compensate and worry. I like structure and routine and when it goes away I do not do well. So I am freaking out in my head telling myself this is all natural.


However, how do I know what is an emergency or should be seen by the vet and what is only the grieving process. That is what I am having trouble differentiating.


I am very so worried about Thumper I can't properly grieve myself.
I think this is probably normal, he's grieving like anyone else would grieve for their brother and best friend. It sounds like they've been together for a long time. I understand your concern about the eating and drinking though. Can you try putting something that smells good on the food? I've heard the juice from a can of tuna can be used (water canned tuna, not oil)
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What about adopting a kitten? Might peak his interest; a 6-8 week old kitten would wouldn't hurt him and would adapt to him quickly just for the comfort. Also, I'm pretty sure the process of adopting a small kitten is relatively quick, not too costly (at least for the initial adoption--gotta do the whole vaccination, neuter/spay thaaang) and might just be an expediant answer to the poor little guy's grief. Something new and different, cuddly and playful to spark his interest. Just a thought as it's gotta be so heartbreaking for you both to be going through such anguish...Love and hope!
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Does he like car rides or trips to the park ? something the 2 of you can do together. When my Shepherd Annie passed away my now 19 yr old kitty would not come out of my room except to use the potty box for 6 months. I had to feed her on my bed & stay with her & talk to her while she ate until lillymae came to live with us & that day PooKat finally took interest in life again. PooKat Loved her Annie almost more then her next breath, I have/had other cats and dogs but PooKat only Loved her Annie & I really don't believe she would have lived through it had I not brought lillymae home. The funny thing is that PooKat did not really take to lillymae but it was more curiosity, IDK but whatever it was, it's what she needed. Prayers for you both. Watching our babies grieve can be as bad as the loss of the other.
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Wow, I am so so sorry. I had no idea he had passed. ((HUGS)) And poor Thumper. I would say another dog will likely help but do it when the time is right for you as well and take your time finding a right match. In the mean time I would do what you are currently doing and just let him grieve. The eating/drinking could be increased by more exercise/walking maybe? He will eat more eventually especially after a lot of activity.

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