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Old 01-18-2017, 06:28 PM   #1
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Forgive me if this topic has been beaten to death, but I'm a Newbie!
Because l had to leave a bad domestic situation, and because l have a severe illness and can't live alone for the time being, my Yorkie puppy and I live with my elderly parents. This way l can help look after them and vice versa. My parents told me they had no objections to my having a puppy and he brings life and laughter to our house which we all need.
The problem is that my puppy, Ricki, is only 5 months old and 2.5 pounds and I'm having a dickens of a time training him to use pee pads. I live in Eastern Canada where you'd miss summer if you blinked and l feel he's too small to go outside in the snow. Right now Ricki is still hit or miss and I'm doing my best to be patient and constantly bring him to his toilet area if l catch him going in the wrong place. Now l am patient with Ricki, understanding that he's still a puppy and just learning. But my father is not so patient and yells at Ricki or speaks to his in an angry tone for everything he does wrong. I've tried to subtly let my Dad know that berating the dog will not work, but Dad is beginning to show symptoms of Dementia and is not getting the hint? He dearly loves Ricki and loves to play fetch with him, thus exercising him, and giving him praise and/or treats. But l feel that I'd be much further ahead in potty training if my Dad didn't criticize him so much. He seems to go potty for me no trouble, but makes most of his mistakes when I'm not there.
Is it possible that he's rebelling against the angry voice of my father and therefore goes potty on the carpet on purpose? Has anyone else had this problem? I respect that this is my Father's house and he doesn't want Ricki tinkling on his floor, but l think his response to the puppy is upsetting him and fooling up my training. Could l be right?
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Hi and welcome.

No, I don't think he is "rebelling", per se. I think he is acting out of fear and confusion with your father. Puppies are born knowing nothing that we, as humans, expect from them. It's very hard for them to understand how to do things just right sometimes. It takes time, and a ton of patience.

Does your Dad understand how potty training or dog training works...? I have a puppy trng guide I can email you if you PM me your email addy. It's from this thread.
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I agree with Ann that your puppy is likely acting out of fear and confusion. Not rebelling.

Sorry you are in this difficult situation. My father lives with me and I have dealt with a couple of training problems with him too. He wouldn't tell the boys to "stay" when he opened doors to the outside. Teddy got out of the house once. I had to put up baby gates to keep the dogs away from the doors.

You could try a couple things: when you cannot supervise your puppy closely, keep him in an xpen with his piddle pad. When you are with your puppy, keep him in the same room with you and the pad. Don't give him access to the entire house.

Try to engage your dad in making the potty training fun. When your puppy goes on the pad correctly, praise him profusely and give him a reward. We give kibble pieces for good potty and praise the doggies like they just performed the best trick ever. My boys are 7 and 8 and we still play this game. They have learned how to maximize kibble rewards.

Maybe your dad could get into the game when he sees how happy it makes your puppy.
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You got excellent advice from my two favourite more resourceful people, Wylie's Mom and Maximo.

I think at this point, most importantly is to prevent accidents. That way, your puppy will learn faster and your dad will be less frustrated. To prevent accidents, as Maximo suggested, keep him in an xpen (or a small isolated area without carpets) with a potty pad. The smaller the area the better, so the puppy is able to get to the pad when he needs to go. When they're young, they can't hold it and when they gotta go, they just go wherever they're standing.

I highly suggest getting him used to a potty schedule. So that he's in the xpen/isolated area during his potty breaks. And only after he's gone, do you let him out for some playtime. When it's near his potty time again, within one or two hours, keep him with you in your lap and not on the floor. And for now, definitely don't give him free access of your entire house. Make it a very very very slow transition to gain access of your house.

Basically, with each week he is accident free, you can give him a little more access. Once he has an accident, revert back a step. It takes a lot of patience. But with time, he'll learn! Make sure that every time you see him potty on the pad to celebrate with a "good boy Ricki!!!!!". They love to please and love compliments.

About the difficulties with family members interferring - that's a tough one. I can totally understand. My soon-to-be in-laws had a lot of comments, as if they were professional dog trainers (but they're obviously not). They basically asked each day, "isn't he potty trained yet?" within a month of me getting Scottie. It was a pain. Luckily I don't live with them. I had to pretty much tune out their comments and just focus on what I knew to be the right thing to do. Doesn't really help for your case with your dad though. But I do think that if you're able to prevent the accidents, it should definitely help.

Keep us posted on any progress!
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Thanks so much for your excellent advice. I will be patient and persevere!
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Thanks so much for your excellent advice. I will be patient and persevere!
patience and perseverance is key! Just know that it may be a good few months of cutie boy Ricki testing your patience.

On the note of bad weather, have you looked into real/synthetic grass patches? Because when it pours in Vancouver, it sometimes doesn't stop. We tried out the Porch Potty, which may be something you could also consider later on down the road: https://www.instagram.com/p/BMC1txtB...cottieandcasie
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Lots of great advise here!
I wonder if you have a separate bedroom for you and your pup? If so you might keep the potty training in that area and not have it so open to family discussions while you are training.

XPens are always great until they can be trusted and as other have said PATIENCE!

Maybe after the pups has gone potty on the pad your dad could have a fetch fest with him!
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