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Old 09-11-2016, 02:12 PM   #1
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I've tried everything. I mean it. New bowls. unsalted chicken broth. Unsalted beef. Almond milk, Kafir (although it's not for fluid so much) Pedialyte flavored and unflavored. Ice. Room temp water. Cold water. Metal bowl. Plastic bowl. Ceramic bowl. Clear bowl. Waiting her out, and she didn't drink FOR FOUR DAYS. She was drinking, finally, out of her bowl and then my daughter touched it.. and she stopped. Finally got her again, and then she got sick with this latest bout and stopped. I've told the vets. I've been told it's a behavioral issue, and to just wait her out. When she got sick the first time I posted this latest bout, I got the after hours ER docs, and I told the tech my fears, and for the first time insisted that I try the broth, and didn't get told to wait her out. Yeah, well, the doc yanked her off of any food but the I/d and boiled hamburger. Today I caved and gave her a strawberry and she was so dang thirsty she gulped it. Gave her an ice cube, one lick and that was it. Our trainer is aware. The problem is Chewie will drink from our water bottles in front of her only every so often, and stops for days. I don't know if intense therapy is what's supposed to happen or not. I'm rambling, but this really scares me. I know she needs only 4oz a day, but none is a not what she is supposed to be doing. Yes.. it's in her food. That's nice. She needs to drink. I am very tempted to go to whole foods, get strawberry juice, freeze it, and let her do that. I really need ideas.
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I hear your fear... I just want to ask question. She will ONLY drink strawberry juice? She eats other food?
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My last girl LOVED to drink water from a glass lol. I had no prob. with her drinking like your lil missy, she just LOVED it out of a glass lol. Do you have a short glass like a "over the rocks" glass, it should be short enough for her to get her lil mug in it. 4 days with no water would have me in a thither. I freaked out if mine didn't drink in 24 hours, we were off to the vet, fortunately I have a 24/7 Vet. Instead of canned chic broth why not try boiling a couple of chic thighs, let it cool, skim off the fat and put a teaspoon in a small amount of water. Canned stuff to me has a canned taste to it, maybe fresh she would like it better. Hope you get some answers on things you haven't tried yet, although it sounds like you tried everything.
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I hear your fear... I just want to ask question. She will ONLY drink strawberry juice? She eats other food?
She'll drink Kafir (never spell it right) But that's for her tummy. Almond milk, unsalted chicken broth natural chicken broth. However, we had to pull all of that. I added the strawberry against doctor's orders because she won't drink.

She'll eat anything you give her except kibble. Her tummy thinks otherwise and boiled foods or fromms is what we keep her on. This was before the allergy.
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My last girl LOVED to drink water from a glass lol. I had no prob. with her drinking like your lil missy, she just LOVED it out of a glass lol. Do you have a short glass like a "over the rocks" glass, it should be short enough for her to get her lil mug in it. 4 days with no water would have me in a thither. I freaked out if mine didn't drink in 24 hours, we were off to the vet, fortunately I have a 24/7 Vet. Instead of canned chic broth why not try boiling a couple of chic thighs, let it cool, skim off the fat and put a teaspoon in a small amount of water. Canned stuff to me has a canned taste to it, maybe fresh she would like it better. Hope you get some answers on things you haven't tried yet, although it sounds like you tried everything.
Matese: thank you,. That's not against doc orders. She did say boiled food was alright if I/D didn't work. I will TRY that tonight. I will remain optimistic because she does like broth.
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When she does not drink does she show signs of dehydration?

What are the signs of dehydration in dogs?
Sunken eyes.
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Loss of skin elasticity – use your thumb and forefinger to pinch a little skin on your pet's back or top of their head. ...
Weakness, collapse
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I don't see my post so I'm not sure it posted but are you seeing signs of dehydration when she refuses to drink? Do you use a potty pad so you can count pees?

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Where are you getting the water from? Have you tried filtered and bottles water? Does her food have moisture in it or is she eating a dry food?
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I don't see my post so I'm not sure it posted but are you seeing signs of dehydration when she refuses to drink? Do you use a potty pad so you can count pees?

Oh there's my post, I see it now
She pees a lot; not too much but definitely nothing to worry about. we have three pads out, and by the end of the night she has 3-4 spots (and not small ones) on each mat. I saw the post above. No, she's never gotten to that point. When she had pancreatitis, yes, that was a time she was dehydrated. She'll get to the point where she licks our hands and my hand is sticky. Then I'll cluck after her until she angrily drinks about an ounce. This might be from a variety of different things, and it's tedious. The last few days, I've added a few ounces of unsalted broth to her I/D food both meals and snack with some crumbles of boiled hamburger on top. I did it before vet permission, but soon after I posted on here, I saw her message from yesterday afternoon giving me permission to drop some in there. I saw the recipe from above and will probably do that one instead. She won't eat for husband and is NOT pleased with the consistency, but I'm getting the fluid into her that way. I'm very afraid that she'll refuse that and we are back to square one.
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Where are you getting the water from? Have you tried filtered and bottles water? Does her food have moisture in it or is she eating a dry food?
Her fromms isn't watered down. We used to give her water in kibble but, after that bout with pancreatitis, she will not touch dried food for meals. Fromms is snacks or when we are gone for the day and we'll feed her out of snack bags. She thinks it's snack and not "food" that way. However, her boiled food? I'll leave quite a bit of water in the bottom of the pot and pour it in there with the food. One in the carbs and one in the meat. I will then mix it together by hand to soak up the water. The I/D food in the post above, which I was asked to keep her on for at least another week has also has added moisture.
Water is definitely bottled. My son is severely autistic.. and, well, comes from a city with a hot spot of developmentally delayed children. We might have moved from there, but I'm firmly convinced that the perchlorate found in the Sacramento area and in the well water as a result (which the city draws from) is the cause. I have never since then touched anything but Bottled water. Filtered is for cooking. Call me paranoid.. but, I just can't risk it. Not Chewie, and not us. Not even guests in the home.
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I want to honor your love and concern for your dear pup, and I feel a bit remiss reading your post that I do not know the quantity intake of my own little lady- but I feel like perhaps I am missing something, if she is passing sufficient urine (like counting diapers for babies) then she is getting adequate water intake is she not? Are there other signs or tendencies in her behavior that indicate a cause for concern?
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I want to honor your love and concern for your dear pup, and I feel a bit remiss reading your post that I do not know the quantity intake of my own little lady- but I feel like perhaps I am missing something, if she is passing sufficient urine (like counting diapers for babies) then she is getting adequate water intake is she not? Are there other signs or tendencies in her behavior that indicate a cause for concern?
Of course! Let me explain. she's small and I understand how easily dehydration can set in. She's fed twice a day. One snack. So no matter how much fluid I put in, there are hours that she isn't Getting any. Before I'd give her a few helpings of fresh fruit, so she'd get some hydration from that. But, the fact that she gets close to the edge- sticky spit- is a huge concern. It concerns me a lot that she's peeing but no matter what happens, there are literally days that go by before she'll lap out of the bowl. I've marked it, that's how bad it's gotten. What happens when she suddenly refuses her I/D food or boiled food? This has happened in the past. I was told by a doc that if you are at the point where spit is sticky, then dehydration can set in VERY fast. Why, if she's not drinking water is she peeing? Those are valid concerns. Not drinking out of the bowl is a concern, but beyond all of that, dehydration is a big big issue. she will even tip the bowl over if it's ikn her crate for the night. so she wakes up SUPER thirsty and it really shows. Hang on, she's snapping at my daughter and eating the homework. not joke. I can add more later if you have more questions.
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Have you thought about forcing small amounts of water with a syringe? Just a small amount is fairly easy to squeeze down the inside of the cheek. I've done this when my boy has been a little sick and refusing to drink. I'll give him a little every 20 mins or so just till I feel he's not dehydrated. They can get dehydrated very quickly and then require IV fluids.
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Of course! Let me explain. she's small and I understand how easily dehydration can set in. She's fed twice a day. One snack. So no matter how much fluid I put in, there are hours that she isn't Getting any. Before I'd give her a few helpings of fresh fruit, so she'd get some hydration from that. But, the fact that she gets close to the edge- sticky spit- is a huge concern. It concerns me a lot that she's peeing but no matter what happens, there are literally days that go by before she'll lap out of the bowl. I've marked it, that's how bad it's gotten. What happens when she suddenly refuses her I/D food or boiled food? This has happened in the past. I was told by a doc that if you are at the point where spit is sticky, then dehydration can set in VERY fast. Why, if she's not drinking water is she peeing? Those are valid concerns. Not drinking out of the bowl is a concern, but beyond all of that, dehydration is a big big issue. she will even tip the bowl over if it's ikn her crate for the night. so she wakes up SUPER thirsty and it really shows. Hang on, she's snapping at my daughter and eating the homework. not joke. I can add more later if you have more questions.
I completely understand! Lol, also about having an autistic son and children whose homework is being eaten! How tiny is your little gal? It is hard how very picky these ladies can be! I have definitely spoon fed wet food and Pedialyte, I am grateful we are not on a medically restricted diet- what an amazing challenge you guys have. It sounds like you are doing everything you can to make sure she stays regulated and is in taking fluid and keeping a close and watchful eye on your baby- what a lucky girl!
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Have you thought about forcing small amounts of water with a syringe? Just a small amount is fairly easy to squeeze down the inside of the cheek. I've done this when my boy has been a little sick and refusing to drink. I'll give him a little every 20 mins or so just till I feel he's not dehydrated. They can get dehydrated very quickly and then require IV fluids.
As far as the syringe... I'll try, but even now she's on Flagyl for her intestines, just in case of swelling from her bouts this past two weeks. She'll take it if it's in a spoon. Not in a syringe. She becomes a sumo wrestler and Chuck norris in one. Like a Steven Universe fusion. Syringes and her don't mix. It's a fantastic suggestion, though, and just maybe we can do it every four hours or so. Perhaps it will sink in to Her Stubbornejesty that drinking from the bowl is easier.
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