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Old 04-01-2016, 08:00 PM   #1
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Hello, I was wondering if anybody knew any good breeders that may have parti, or different colored yorkies? I mean I like the standard and all I just like the different colors too
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P.s. I would like an unbiased opinion...

P.s.s the AKC in my opinion is sort of a biased opinion for multiple reasons I'd rather not discuss... Not saying I don't like the AKC-- the AKC is a WONDERFUL place but it is a biased opinion.

I wonder if there's a way to do DNA testing on dogs that are off colored (not the traditional colors basically) to make sure they're really yorkies.

By the way, what's a biewer? And whats a biewer yorkie? Are they the same? They sort of look alike in body shape. But then again I am not that perceptive.

Thanks, I hope I don't offend anyone as I would never mean to. If I do MY DEEPEST APOLOGIES from the bottom of my soul!
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Here is some info on Biewers and Partis: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...formation.html

Basically, you can trace them back to originating at the same kennel.

Yes, you can DNA test a dog - you can buy the Wisdom Panel and have it done; they're very accurate and detailed.

A biewer is the result of 2 biewers mating; a parti is the result of yorkies. Mating a biewer w/ a standard yorkie is looked down upon by some and the result is often *not* considered a true Biewer, although some breeders will sell them as such.
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Here is some info on Biewers and Partis: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...formation.html

Basically, you can trace them back to originating at the same kennel.

Yes, you can DNA test a dog - you can buy the Wisdom Panel and have it done; they're very accurate and detailed.

A biewer is the result of 2 biewers mating; a parti is the result of yorkies. Mating a biewer w/ a standard yorkie is looked down upon by some and the result is often *not* considered a true Biewer, although some breeders will sell them as such.
Oh okay thanks. What's a Wisdom Panel? Do I have to do the DNA test myself or how do it work? I am not really sure I personally have the equipment to do so....

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The biewer link inside that link does not work

but from the jist of it.. Biewers are just a different colored yorkie? Do they have the same personality, temperment, etc? Are biewers accepted here?

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You really seem to be overwhelmed with all the facets and angles of getting just the right puppy....not an uncommon issue with people that are beginning their search for the perfect puppy.

As a breeder for many years, I will enlighten you to some important angles you need to consider, in an attempt to "corral" your many, many concerns and questions.

First of all, you must do responsible reading and research in reputable books and news letters, ....we have many, many people on YT that have a lot of experience with yorkies, but you have no idea who these people are....you may be getting information from people that while they are trying to guide and direct you thru this, they really have no expertise in all the qualities you should be looking for in your yorkie. Go to professionals and major reputable publications and news letters....

First, you need to select a breed that is appropriate for you and your lifestyle. If you have done this and you are completely comfortable with your selection of a yorkie as your pet, then you have done step 1.

Step 2.....I would strongly advise you to mqake yourself available at any/all dog shows you possibly can. Watch the yorkie classes....go behind the scenes (if allowed) and talk with yorkie breeders and show people. You must be clear in your mind exactly what are realistic expectations for what you will find in your yorkie. An example of what I am saying would be, you dont go to the local newspaper, grocery store ad board, or flea market, to find a reputable breeder/show dog/healthy puppies. Your chances of finding a well bred, healthy puppy, as well as a reputable breeder, out of a local Greensheet or neighborhood newsletter/newspaper, or on a piece of paper stuck up on the Ad Board in a grocery store, is not very likely. Hang out where show people hang out....ie dog shows. Learn from experts, what you need to be looking for in your dog.

Get names of reputable breeders, reputable show people, that breed and show yorkies....they KNOW what is right and what is wrong, faults, imperfections, and genetic issues that could be very costly for you further down the road. There are exceptions to every rule, but it is not likely you will find snippy, hateful, intolerant dogs in a show ring....these people breed their dogs and if the colors do not start developing like they should, that is a "reject" from the show ring, but it would make a wonderful, outstanding pet for someone wanting a quality, well bred, fabulous lines/pedigree yorkie for a pet. This way, you dont get stuck with questionable breeding, questionable personalities, questionable health history, questionable reputation of a breeder, etc....

You need to work with a reputable, responsible breeder. She will want the very best home for her puppies, that she can possibly find. YOU will be every bit as scrutinized by the breeder, as you are looking and approving the breeder and her puppies, if not more so. Once you have found a breeder that has thoroughly vetted YOU, then work with your breeder and trust her to help guide you with a selection of the perfect puppy. She wants to be absolutely certain that her baby is going to the very best home, with the very best new owner, she can possibly trust with her baby.

You need to let someone that is soooo much better equipped to judge a yorkie and what that particular puppy needs in a new owner to be the very best that baby can be. THAT is more important to the breeder than it is even to you. BUY your breeder first, and she will guide and direct you to the very best puppy you can possibly own.

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You really seem to be overwhelmed with all the facets and angles of getting just the right puppy....not an uncommon issue with people that are beginning their search for the perfect puppy.

As a breeder for many years, I will enlighten you to some important angles you need to consider, in an attempt to "corral" your many, many concerns and questions.

First of all, you must do responsible reading and research in reputable books and news letters, ....we have many, many people on YT that have a lot of experience with yorkies, but you have no idea who these people are....you may be getting information from people that while they are trying to guide and direct you thru this, they really have no expertise in all the qualities you should be looking for in your yorkie. Go to professionals and major reputable publications and news letters....

First, you need to select a breed that is appropriate for you and your lifestyle. If you have done this and you are completely comfortable with your selection of a yorkie as your pet, then you have done step 1.

Step 2.....I would strongly advise you to mqake yourself available at any/all dog shows you possibly can. Watch the yorkie classes....go behind the scenes (if allowed) and talk with yorkie breeders and show people. You must be clear in your mind exactly what are realistic expectations for what you will find in your yorkie. An example of what I am saying would be, you dont go to the local newspaper, grocery store ad board, or flea market, to find a reputable breeder/show dog/healthy puppies. Your chances of finding a well bred, healthy puppy, as well as a reputable breeder, out of a local Greensheet or neighborhood newsletter/newspaper, or on a piece of paper stuck up on the Ad Board in a grocery store, is not very likely. Hang out where show people hang out....ie dog shows. Learn from experts, what you need to be looking for in your dog.

Get names of reputable breeders, reputable show people, that breed and show yorkies....they KNOW what is right and what is wrong, faults, imperfections, and genetic issues that could be very costly for you further down the road. There are exceptions to every rule, but it is not likely you will find snippy, hateful, intolerant dogs in a show ring....these people breed their dogs and if the colors do not start developing like they should, that is a "reject" from the show ring, but it would make a wonderful, outstanding pet for someone wanting a quality, well bred, fabulous lines/pedigree yorkie for a pet. This way, you dont get stuck with questionable breeding, questionable personalities, questionable health history, questionable reputation of a breeder, etc....

You need to work with a reputable, responsible breeder. She will want the very best home for her puppies, that she can possibly find. YOU will be every bit as scrutinized by the breeder, as you are looking and approving the breeder and her puppies, if not more so. Once you have found a breeder that has thoroughly vetted YOU, then work with your breeder and trust her to help guide you with a selection of the perfect puppy. She wants to be absolutely certain that her baby is going to the very best home, with the very best new owner, she can possibly trust with her baby.

You need to let someone that is soooo much better equipped to judge a yorkie and what that particular puppy needs in a new owner to be the very best that baby can be. THAT is more important to the breeder than it is even to you. BUY your breeder first, and she will guide and direct you to the very best puppy you can possibly own.
I know I kind of am.. But there's so many information out there I REALLY cannot discern which books, articles are good to learn about yorkies and their quirks.

Also as for dog shows does -any- dog show matter? Does being in a dog show necessarily mean that the breeder is top notch? I mean I would figure that's better than a byb but.. I wasn't 100% sure that it would just mean I would get a good breeder right off the bat.

Also I don't mind being scrutinized, as long as she doesn't really judge me based on my disabilities(social), or my horrible spelling... ;( Or the fact that I am brand new to yorkies...

Thank you so much.
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Believe it or not, "Yorkshire Terriers for Dummies" is a very good book. You can find it on amazon: Yorkshire Terriers For Dummies - Kindle edition...Yorkshire Terriers For Dummies - Kindle edition...
The link to the Wisdom Panel DNA test is here: Dog DNA Test, Dog Breed Test - Wisdom Panel Canine DNA Testing | Wisdom Panel . They send you a test kit. You take a cheek swab from your dog, carefully following the instructions, and mail it in to the company. It takes three weeks or so to get the results.

Partis and Biewers share the same origins, but Partis are more like American Yorkshire Terriers, and Biewers are more like European Yorkshire Terriers. Biewers are supposed to be bred only with other Biewers, but Partis can be bred back to Yorkshire Terriers. Biros are chocolate-colored Biewers, and Gold Dusts are yellow-colored Biewers.

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Believe it or not, "Yorkshire Terriers for Dummies" is a very good book. You can find it on amazon: Yorkshire Terriers For Dummies - Kindle edition by Tracy Barr, Peter F. Veling. Crafts, Hobbies & Home Kindle eBooks @ Amazon.com.

The link to the Wisdom Panel DNA test is here: Dog DNA Test, Dog Breed Test - Wisdom Panel Canine DNA Testing | Wisdom Panel . They send you a test kit. You take a cheek swab from your dog, carefully following the instructions, and mail it in to the company. It takes three weeks or so to get the results.

Partis and Biewers share the same origins, but Partis are more like American Yorkshire Terriers, and Biewers are more like European Yorkshire Terriers. Biewers are supposed to be bred only with other Biewers, but Partis can be bred back to Yorkshire Terriers.
Are biewers frowned upon in this community? Also, I am not sure if you guys noticed but they both sort of look alike(parti and biewers) so how can I differentiate them?
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If you are looking for party or other than the stand Yorkie coloring a dog show will not be of much value for you. The pups you see at the Yorkie shows are there because they have attempted to breed a Yorkie as close to the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America standards. Parti or off color Yorkies will not be seen there. They are primarily pure breed owners. Many breeders now do health DNA testing to perfect their desire to breed healthy pups. You can also the breed identification testing as well.

There are some Biewer owners on this site that will maybe come forth with more info for you.

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If you are looking for party or other than the stand Yorkie coloring a dog show will not be of much value for you. The pups you see at the Yorkie shows are there because they have attempted to breed a Yorkie as close to the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America standards. Parti or off color Yorkies will not be seen there. They are primarily pure breed owners. Many breeders now do health DNA testing to perfect their desire to breed healthy pups. You can also the breed identification testing as well.

There are some Biewer owners on this site that will maybe come forth with more info for you.

Good luck in your search!
Oh okay thank you. I really like the biewers.
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Are biewers frowned upon in this community? Also, I am not sure if you guys noticed but they both sort of look alike(parti and biewers) so how can I differentiate them?
Biewers and Partis are both welcome on Yorkietalk . Yes, they do look a lot alike. Only pedigree records or DNA testing can distinguish them, although some people say that they have different personalities.
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Biewers and Partis are both welcome on Yorkietalk . Yes, they do look a lot alike. Only pedigree records or DNA testing can distinguish them, although some people say that they have different personalities.
Thank you. Aren't biewers technically yorkies? or are they too different?
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I have 2 parties, 1 chocolate, and 5 traditional. Parties and Biewers are both Yorkshire Terriers. Biewers originated in Europe and Parties in USA. My parties are AKC and my male is DNA-Validated. Many people don't approve of the (what I call) fancy colors but they don't know what they are missing. They are beautiful little dogs. If you decide on one, please make sure you know who your breeder is. I would even ask for the sire and dams pedigree, just to make sure you are not buying an inbred dog.
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I have 2 parties, 1 chocolate, and 5 traditional. Parties and Biewers are both Yorkshire Terriers. Biewers originated in Europe and Parties in USA. My parties are AKC and my male is DNA-Validated. Many people don't approve of the (what I call) fancy colors but they don't know what they are missing. They are beautiful little dogs. If you decide on one, please make sure you know who your breeder is. I would even ask for the sire and dams pedigree, just to make sure you are not buying an inbred dog.
Would you happen to know of a good Biewer breeder? I mean I would want it to be close to where I live(NJ) but I am willing to travel 4 hours tops(not counting the ride back) to get the puppy... If it's farther I don't mind paying for a puppy nanny service(so they travel through flight but NOT in cargo!).

I really want a biewer but it has to be a female though.
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Would you happen to know of a good Biewer breeder? I mean I would want it to be close to where I live(NJ) but I am willing to travel 4 hours tops(not counting the ride back) to get the puppy... If it's farther I don't mind paying for a puppy nanny service(so they travel through flight but NOT in cargo!).

I really want a biewer but it has to be a female though.

You will love the Biewers, I absolutly love mine and he has the best temperment you could ever ask for and as much yorkie as my standard yorkie that came from a top of the line show breeder..good luck in your search but be very careful
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