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01-31-2016, 01:51 AM | #1 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: los gatos
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| Help needed! Id as Biewer, parti, maltese, mix? I may be picking up this adorable puppy tomorrow so need help identifying breed quick! Seller said he has AKC register papers (as yorkie terrier), but I read that Biewer terriers can only be registered as BBIR? AKC recognizes Biewer as a different breed? This led me to believe that puppy is a parti? We haven't seen the puppy yet, but he said tail is black. Do Biewer have black tail? Also, how much is a reasonable rehoming price? Please take a look at photos. |
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01-31-2016, 04:36 AM | #2 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | If registered w/ AKC, then they must be registering it as a parti yorkie. Are you buying this pup over the internet...? Do you trust this breeder? Yes, some biewers have black on their tails. As far as price, what do you mean by "re-homing" - will this be the pup's 2nd home now? Why are they re-homing him already?
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01-31-2016, 07:35 AM | #3 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: los gatos
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| I'm buying from a local seller. He said he purchased the puppy for his daughter's Christmas present, but now they have to relocate so need to sell. He purchased for $1500 and now selling for $1000. Sounds about the right price for a parti yorkie? She's 16 weeks and he said she's a little over a pound. Am I paying too much? |
01-31-2016, 07:46 AM | #4 |
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| I know nothing about the Biewer line, I do know that she is a doll! I would first be interested to know about vet documentation, has she been checked out by a vet, is she healthy? What breeder did he buy her from? How does the breeder check out? That would be some info I would be digging into. She looks not to be mixed but I have do not have professional knowledge on these like many other ladies on here do. Good luck, if you do get her she is a beauty!
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01-31-2016, 07:50 AM | #5 |
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| Btw if she is what he says she is, reputable breeder, healthy pup, AKC, then $1,000 imo would be a good deal, at the same time if he is in a bind to sell her quickly because of relocating (that part throws red flags to me) I would be making a lower offer.
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01-31-2016, 07:50 AM | #6 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: los gatos
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| He said he will provide the AKC paperwork along with her shot records. I didn't want to ask about where he purchased puppy from because I was afraid I may be intrusive or he may be offended? I figure I can ask him in person. Are there any breeders I should be aware of and stay away from? |
01-31-2016, 08:03 AM | #7 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: los gatos
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| I tried to offer him lower, but he is firm and says he has a lot of interests. :-( Going to meet her... wish us luck! |
01-31-2016, 08:25 AM | #8 |
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| I would want to be absolutely certain that the breeder HE purchased the pup from, did not have a contract that stipulated the dog must be returned to HER if re-sold....you could get all tangled up in a contract dispute between the breeder and the original owner..... . |
01-31-2016, 08:44 AM | #9 | |
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That is exactly right, it is written up in my contract that way! To be honest my breeder would have been who I would have contacted anyways if I had such a turn of events. Breeder knowledge is EXTREMELY important and you are not being intrusive, you are protecting yourself on a potential emotional investment. I would be asking now and researching before I went to meet these people, they may be 100% legit, but they may not be...let us know what happens, fingers crossed that all turns out great for you today!
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01-31-2016, 10:02 AM | #10 |
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| I would want to see a copy of the breeder's contract, vet records, and the akc paperwork (should say if she is parti, etc) before buying her. I want to do research on the breeder before I bought her. Then, I would want to receive a copy of the breeder's contract, her vet records and her original AKC paperwork if I bought her.
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01-31-2016, 03:21 PM | #11 |
YT 2000 Club Donating Member | This re seller might not have the authority to resell per the contract the original purchaser signed. Most reputable breeders will take any dog back at any time that they bred and indeed insist on that. So yes I would want to know the breeders name and the see a copy of the contract. We have had on here a couple of folks that wanted to re home their dogs and THAT the BREEDER was not aware of...... In terms of pricing that is a moot point if the breeder is supposed to get this puppy back due to what ever circumstances the original buyer finds themselves in that means they can't keep the pup.
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01-31-2016, 07:10 PM | #12 |
Donating YT 2000 Club Member | Biewers are supposed to have a tail with at least the tip being white. AKC/FSS is registering Biewer Terriers if they have been registered with BTRA and Mars tested and color coat tested. They can only be shown and registered with AKC/FSS. Partis can be registered in AKC but not shown. Biewers are registered with BBIR or IBC. They show in rare breed venues: ICKC, ARBA & IABCA. The breeder needs to be notified of the rehoming. This seller sounds shady to me. If the buyer will PM me, maybe we can save some grief and heartache. |
01-31-2016, 08:46 PM | #13 |
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| Wow ! a little over 1 lb ? at 4 months. That is a tiny dog, but from the pics looks larger. Makes me wonder is this pup skin and bones. I would not hesitate at that price to insist on seeing her AKC papers & any other paperwork on this pup BEFORE any money changes hands. I would want to be sure this pup is NOT from a puppymill & if the contract states that the pup must go back to the breeder in the event that the original buyer can't keep the pup. I would want also to see ALL vetting paperwork & as a buyer, you have the rite to see all that I have listed here. |
01-31-2016, 11:50 PM | #14 |
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| I am also thinking the owner does not want to let the breeder know he is reselling. I would think the breeder would take back the pup but not return the money, or at least not most of it. He probably doesn't want to take the chance to tell the breeder in case she doesn't give back at least the $1000 he is looking to get back. Then the breeder would know and per the contract (if it's in the contract) she'd be in her right to get the pup back. Which leads me to think, perhaps the breeder is not a reputable one and he doesn't want the pup to go back to her? Reputable breeders RARELY have pups available for Christmas. And we all know puppies make terrible Christmas gifts anyway. Or, the owner could be the breeder and is lying about rehoming. If it were me, I'd be extremely careful. Depending on where you live, $1000 can buy you a pup from a reputable breeder, so I wouldn't spend that kind of money if there's a chance the breeder isn't reputable or the pup is from a mill.
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02-01-2016, 08:51 AM | #15 |
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| Please, Please ,Please do your research on the breeder. A $1000 dog from a bad breeder can cost you 10 times that much and a ton of sorrow. Believe me, I'm going through it. It cost me $10,000 for chiari surgery, not including all the $ to finally diagnois his condition and the monthly cost for the meds he is currently taking. The worst part is watching the love of your life suffer with it. |
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