Crate training question and "Superpuppy" problem. - YorkieTalk.com Forums

mbroome · 01-27-2016, 06:18 AM

Well we've had Tinkerbell for 8 days now and all I can say is 'Wow!". In my almost 50 years I've owned my fair share of dogs, but this little girl has some definite very unique spunk, personality, and stubbornness to her! She gets her feelings hurt VERY easily and will actually sulk and act mad at you, even at her young age! (born Dec 7). My first question....we are attempting to crate train her obviously. EVERY evening when we goto bed we love on her and put her in her "room". She is fine for a few hours but she will wake up, use her potty pad and get VERY upset and whine and cry. This past weekend my son got up, put a futon pillow down next to her crate, let her out and my wife and I woke up to them cuddled happily on the futon. When will her crying at night stop? All she wants is some love, cuddling and she goes back to sleep.

Next question. She is going pee on her pad just fine. She picked up on that fast enough. Going poo however is an entirely different story. She REFUSES to use her pad. So far she is refusing to leave an area about 8 feet around her crate, ( I guess the world is a big place to her!). She will go and hide under the coffee table and go. I have corrected her by saying "No!" and put her on her pad and she acts like i just destroyed her little feelings. Yesterday my wife called me at work and said she did the same and Tinkerbell went and sulked in her crate and I guess tried to hold it in and made a huge mess in her hair, then promptly growled at my wife when she got a bath, ( her 2nd bath now). Any suggestions on this problem? I got some of the training spray for the store and when she goes, I correct her, place her on the pad and use a kleenex to place her oopsie on the pad so she might get the hint. What else can I do?

Next question. The "Superpuppy" thing. We have a VERY low recliner and my wife called me yesterday laughing, in tears. Tinkerbell will take off at a dead run and jump up into the chair, sit there looking all proud, "Mommy, look at me!". She will play, nap, do the puppy think then take a flying leap off of the recliner onto the floor. The chair is low enough that she will not get hurt, but I don't want to encourage this behavior so it carries over to something where she WILL get hurt. What is the best way to discourage this without hurting her little feelings? She actually looks SO proud and happy with herself when she does it.

Lastly, I went ahead and registered her with the CKC and will be receiving her papers along with a microchip for the vet to put in on the 11th when she goes in for her next round of shots. What is the difference between the akc and the ckc? Was the money spent registering her worth it considering I am NOT going to breed her? Thanks SO much for any help and advice! My wife and I are having a blast and she has really stolen our hearts!

Jkpal · 01-27-2016, 09:53 AM

Piper, too, is very sensitive. If I do something that, in her opinion, is mean--like going to work--Piper goes under the couch, all the way back to the wall, drops her little noggin down and faces the wall (I now truly appreciate the description "hang dog" look). Ain't no drama queen that can out-drama Pipe! Anyway, love that you're enjoying your baby and just know the fun has only begun (uh-oh!!). Your little girl looks far too sweet to be pulling fast ones, but that's part of the charm, yes?! She is completely adorable and I admire that you can stand firm--something I continue to work on...

yavenay · 01-27-2016, 12:00 PM

Start training her now on how to use steps or ramps. My yorkie is not allowed to jump down from the bed or certain couches that are two high. I have steps for the bed and several steps for my couches.

To train them to use the steps, I just put their favorite treat on each step. I repeated this until she understood it. Whenever I saw them jumping up or down. I just make them go up or down the right way by placing them on the steps and telling them to go up or down. Problem solved. I think the hardest part is getting them to not react so quickly when they want to jump down especially if they want to follow mommy. So be mindful that they will forget from time to time.

As for pooping on the potty pad, with my yorkie it is hit or miss. I am happy if she is only within inches. I really only have this problem in the winter time when we don't go out as much. She usually poops outside but in the winter time, mommy doesn't take her out as much. She's batting a hundred when it comes to peeing on the potty pad but pooping, she usually misses the target but at least she is in the vicinity of the potty pad

. I have natural's miracle and her poop is really small (thankfully) so for me it's no big deal. After having pets all of my life, I guess it's one of those things I learn to live with. Strangely she never poops when I am at home to correct her behavior. It's almost like she knows to wait until I am not around to poop just inches away from the potty pad or maybe she doesn't want to poop where she pottys'??? Who knows with these little stinkers.

yavenay · 01-27-2016, 12:09 PM

As for sulking and acting mad at you, that's called Yorkie Mind Control.Ignore it, it's just their way of trying to gain control over you. I personally have not been able to resist it.

canana · 01-27-2016, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mbroome

Well we've had Tinkerbell for 8 days now and all I can say is 'Wow!". In my almost 50 years I've owned my fair share of dogs, but this little girl has some definite very unique spunk, personality, and stubbornness to her! She gets her feelings hurt VERY easily and will actually sulk and act mad at you, even at her young age! (born Dec 7). My first question....we are attempting to crate train her obviously. EVERY evening when we goto bed we love on her and put her in her "room". She is fine for a few hours but she will wake up, use her potty pad and get VERY upset and whine and cry. This past weekend my son got up, put a futon pillow down next to her crate, let her out and my wife and I woke up to them cuddled happily on the futon. When will her crying at night stop? All she wants is some love, cuddling and she goes back to sleep.

Next question. The "Superpuppy" thing. We have a VERY low recliner and my wife called me yesterday laughing, in tears. Tinkerbell will take off at a dead run and jump up into the chair, sit there looking all proud, "Mommy, look at me!". She will play, nap, do the puppy think then take a flying leap off of the recliner onto the floor. The chair is low enough that she will not get hurt, but I don't want to encourage this behavior so it carries over to something where she WILL get hurt. What is the best way to discourage this without hurting her little feelings? She actually looks SO proud and happy with herself when she does it.

Lastly, I went ahead and registered her with the CKC and will be receiving her papers along with a microchip for the vet to put in on the 11th when she goes in for her next round of shots. What is the difference between the akc and the ckc? Was the money spent registering her worth it considering I am NOT going to breed her? Thanks SO much for any help and advice! My wife and I are having a blast and she has really stolen our hearts!

If your pup is only 2 months old, she can probably only hold her pee for about 3 hours, so maybe she has to pee? You may need to let her out every 3 to 4 hours until she's older. So maybe once a night, she'll need to pee. If it's not an issue with having to pee, then you need to IGNORE the crying.

You can put a loud ticking clock nearby and/or cover the crate completely with a large blanket or towel and keep the crate near your bed on the ground. If you don't ignore it, trust me, it can only get worse.

First-hand experiencer right here

Mine wailed and screamed and barked for about two months, because I kept attending to him at night. He woke me up first at 5am, then 4, then 3, then 2, then basically as soon as I fell asleep. His cries were like his limbs were being torn off - that's how bad it sounded.

Then I read many articles saying the only way to crate them is to ignore them. So I used ear plugs for about a month and slowly but surely he started to get better. I've also read that you can train them to only wake up because of your alarm clock, not when they bark to wake you up. So only attend to them in the morning after your alarm goes off. Then you take control, rather than the pup.

Your question about jumping up/down chairs: I was told by my breeder not to give them a chance to injure themselves, especially their tiny little legs and their tiny little joints. Also because it's thousands of dollars to do surgery. So I trained mine to not jump. He has to sit to say please before I pick him up onto the couch. Clicker training is great for that!

I registered mine with AKC. But actually, besides getting the fancy birth certificate, the registry doesn't mean all that much. Mine's already neutered so it's not like he could enter in the show rings.

I'd be more than happy to give more suggestions if you have other questions - my lil guy started off as an angel and I thought I was blessed...until he turned 6 to 7 months and became a nightmare! hahaha...

Jkpal · 01-28-2016, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by yavenay

As for sulking and acting mad at you, that's called Yorkie Mind Control.Ignore it, it's just their way of trying to gain control over you. I personally have not been able to resist it.

Bless you!! It's good to know I have company here!

Zeus is Loved · 01-29-2016, 09:47 AM

We don't crate so we didn't crate train. We gated Zeusy in a large room. However, I must say that he will NOT pee and poo on the same pad. He must have a pad in "front" for pee and a pad in "back" for poo. That is part of his OCD that I love. He will also not leave you alone until you go get the poo off the pad -- he doesn't like it left there for even a minute. As far as personality, my sweet boy is very sensitive. You cannot raise your voice at him at all. He gets his feelings hurt very easily. We work, and he is alone a good part of the day and doesn't really like being alone. He must have someone to sleep with or he is extremely miserable. He sleeps with me every night. He does use a ramp to get on/off the bed. If he does jump, there is carpet. We do not allow him to get on the furniture in the den without us, because there are hardwood floors in there. He has his king's pillow that he lounges on and his bed. He has full reign of the house while we are at work.

01-27-2016, 06:18 AM	#1
mbroome YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Jackson, MS, USA Posts: 9	Crate training question and "Superpuppy" problem. Well we've had Tinkerbell for 8 days now and all I can say is 'Wow!". In my almost 50 years I've owned my fair share of dogs, but this little girl has some definite very unique spunk, personality, and stubbornness to her! She gets her feelings hurt VERY easily and will actually sulk and act mad at you, even at her young age! (born Dec 7). My first question....we are attempting to crate train her obviously. EVERY evening when we goto bed we love on her and put her in her "room". She is fine for a few hours but she will wake up, use her potty pad and get VERY upset and whine and cry. This past weekend my son got up, put a futon pillow down next to her crate, let her out and my wife and I woke up to them cuddled happily on the futon. When will her crying at night stop? All she wants is some love, cuddling and she goes back to sleep. Next question. She is going pee on her pad just fine. She picked up on that fast enough. Going poo however is an entirely different story. She REFUSES to use her pad. So far she is refusing to leave an area about 8 feet around her crate, ( I guess the world is a big place to her!). She will go and hide under the coffee table and go. I have corrected her by saying "No!" and put her on her pad and she acts like i just destroyed her little feelings. Yesterday my wife called me at work and said she did the same and Tinkerbell went and sulked in her crate and I guess tried to hold it in and made a huge mess in her hair, then promptly growled at my wife when she got a bath, ( her 2nd bath now). Any suggestions on this problem? I got some of the training spray for the store and when she goes, I correct her, place her on the pad and use a kleenex to place her oopsie on the pad so she might get the hint. What else can I do? Next question. The "Superpuppy" thing. We have a VERY low recliner and my wife called me yesterday laughing, in tears. Tinkerbell will take off at a dead run and jump up into the chair, sit there looking all proud, "Mommy, look at me!". She will play, nap, do the puppy think then take a flying leap off of the recliner onto the floor. The chair is low enough that she will not get hurt, but I don't want to encourage this behavior so it carries over to something where she WILL get hurt. What is the best way to discourage this without hurting her little feelings? She actually looks SO proud and happy with herself when she does it. Lastly, I went ahead and registered her with the CKC and will be receiving her papers along with a microchip for the vet to put in on the 11th when she goes in for her next round of shots. What is the difference between the akc and the ckc? Was the money spent registering her worth it considering I am NOT going to breed her? Thanks SO much for any help and advice! My wife and I are having a blast and she has really stolen our hearts! Attached Thumbnails

01-27-2016, 12:00 PM	#3
yavenay Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Delaware Posts: 2,663	Start training her now on how to use steps or ramps. My yorkie is not allowed to jump down from the bed or certain couches that are two high. I have steps for the bed and several steps for my couches. To train them to use the steps, I just put their favorite treat on each step. I repeated this until she understood it. Whenever I saw them jumping up or down. I just make them go up or down the right way by placing them on the steps and telling them to go up or down. Problem solved. I think the hardest part is getting them to not react so quickly when they want to jump down especially if they want to follow mommy. So be mindful that they will forget from time to time. As for pooping on the potty pad, with my yorkie it is hit or miss. I am happy if she is only within inches. I really only have this problem in the winter time when we don't go out as much. She usually poops outside but in the winter time, mommy doesn't take her out as much. She's batting a hundred when it comes to peeing on the potty pad but pooping, she usually misses the target but at least she is in the vicinity of the potty pad. I have natural's miracle and her poop is really small (thankfully) so for me it's no big deal. After having pets all of my life, I guess it's one of those things I learn to live with. Strangely she never poops when I am at home to correct her behavior. It's almost like she knows to wait until I am not around to poop just inches away from the potty pad or maybe she doesn't want to poop where she pottys'??? Who knows with these little stinkers. Last edited by yavenay; 01-27-2016 at 12:01 PM.

01-27-2016, 09:53 AM	#2
Jkpal YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Lake Geneva, WI Posts: 2,776	Piper, too, is very sensitive. If I do something that, in her opinion, is mean--like going to work--Piper goes under the couch, all the way back to the wall, drops her little noggin down and faces the wall (I now truly appreciate the description "hang dog" look). Ain't no drama queen that can out-drama Pipe! *Anyway, love that you're enjoying your baby and just know the fun has only begun (uh-oh!!).* Your little girl looks far too sweet to be pulling fast ones, but that's part of the charm, yes?! She is completely adorable and I admire that you can stand firm--something I continue to work on...

01-27-2016, 12:09 PM	#4
yavenay Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Delaware Posts: 2,663	As for sulking and acting mad at you, that's called Yorkie Mind Control.Ignore it, it's just their way of trying to gain control over you. I personally have not been able to resist it.

01-29-2016, 09:47 AM	#7
Zeus is Loved YT Addict Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Columbus, MS Posts: 361	We don't crate so we didn't crate train. We gated Zeusy in a large room. However, I must say that he will NOT pee and poo on the same pad. He must have a pad in "front" for pee and a pad in "back" for poo. That is part of his OCD that I love. He will also not leave you alone until you go get the poo off the pad -- he doesn't like it left there for even a minute. As far as personality, my sweet boy is very sensitive. You cannot raise your voice at him at all. He gets his feelings hurt very easily. We work, and he is alone a good part of the day and doesn't really like being alone. He must have someone to sleep with or he is extremely miserable. He sleeps with me every night. He does use a ramp to get on/off the bed. If he does jump, there is carpet. We do not allow him to get on the furniture in the den without us, because there are hardwood floors in there. He has his king's pillow that he lounges on and his bed. He has full reign of the house while we are at work.