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Old 09-06-2015, 06:41 PM   #1
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HI, My 17 year old daughter has epilepsy. I was wondering if anyone knew how I would find a yorkie trained to help alert her if a seizure was going to happen. Can I buy a Yorkie and hire a trainer or is there a place that has the dogs and trains them before they go to their new home.
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HI, My 17 year old daughter has epilepsy. I was wondering if anyone knew how I would find a yorkie trained to help alert her if a seizure was going to happen. Can I buy a Yorkie and hire a trainer or is there a place that has the dogs and trains them before they go to their new home.
Any info greatly appreciated. Luannejf@Comcast.net
I am training a yorkie to be my daughters autism service dog.

If you get a dog from a service, I do not believe you get to choose the breed. It is usually a 18-24 month wait once you are accepted as a client, sometimes longer if they have a waiting list. Here is a google search that may help you some:

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#n...ure+alert+dogs
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Oh, and I forgot to say welcome to YorkieTalk.

Under "Advanced training" area there is a whole thread devoted to yorkie service dogs in case you want to check that out.

If you have any skill in training dogs, you may look into this: http://www.littleangelsservicedogs.org/books.html Second book down is about training a seizure alert dog.
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Some organizations will train the dog you have IF it passes their requirements such as temperament, age, etc.
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Thank you so much!!
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thank you so very much for the information. Maybe the book can teach me how to train the dog so that she can get it sooner rather than later. How is your teaching going? I would think that it would be even better being trained with the person from the beginning rather than at the 2 year point.
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thank you so very much for the information. Maybe the book can teach me how to train the dog so that she can get it sooner rather than later. How is your teaching going? I would think that it would be even better being trained with the person from the beginning rather than at the 2 year point.
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I will also give you this website in case you decide to train your own. It is for both basic, and advanced obedience training plus some competition dog training. It is a free site:

http://sue-eh.ca/page24/page26/page10/

Our training is coming along very well actually. We are in the advanced obedience training and working on some early task training. So far, this is where we are being in the tenth week of training:

Now he can easily on command:

1. Sit
2. Lay down
3. Speak
4. High five (just for fun of course)
5. Sit and wait for specific release command to go outside and come in (ignoring all other words until he hears the word "okay").
6. Sit and wait for specific release command to go to his food (ignoring all other words until he hears the word "okay").
7. Stay for several minutes with me in sight or out of sight.
8. "Leave it" including when food is dropped near him.
9. House trained
10. Roll over
11. Controlled load and unload from car
12. Watch me
13. Sit up
14. Under (for meals or in restaurants he stays under the table laying down)

Working on these still:

15. Leash trained to sit when we stop and stay until command to get up (no verbal cues needed)
16. "Alert" when my kiddo begins to get upset
17. "Lap" Put his head and front paws on her leg to try to calm her
18. "Stay with ________" (insert a name of family member)
19. "Go to __________" name of family members

Future goal:

20. Down the road, he will be trained like a seeing eye dog to not get up, even with release command, if a car is coming in a parking lot or street. He is small, so he cannot stop her, but he can be a reminder which is all she needs. She gladly looks both ways when reminded, but if not reminded, she never looks both ways.

I have trained dogs my whole life, and done some very minor task training as well. Mario is very smart, and he is VERY driven to please and that helps a whole lot.
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So excited for you! Maybe you have found a new job!! Keep me posted. I ordered the book.
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The training for a SD takes a very long time to complete and the dog MUST have an appropriate temperament. My SD is half yorkie, half chihuahua.

10 weeks is not long enough. You need to expect at LEAST a year of training for an adult dog, two for a baby.
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I am training a yorkie to be my daughters autism service dog.

If you get a dog from a service, I do not believe you get to choose the breed. It is usually a 18-24 month wait once you are accepted as a client, sometimes longer if they have a waiting list. Here is a google search that may help you some:

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#n...ure+alert+dogs

What Mayzoo says is true - however the reason for this seems pretty obvious.
When my dog was in training school (not for seizure training) there were several seizure response dogs in training there as well. My service dog is a Yorkie, however none of the seizure alert dogs were small dogs. I watched them do the advanced training with these dogs who were large - to support their handler who was collapsing with auras or beginning seizure activity to get them safely to the floor, then carefully, but systematically, roll them over on their side, and keep them there while continuing to support (not restrain) their bodies so they would not aspirate if they vomited, just to name a few tasks. A small dog could not have performed those tasks - it took some size and strength to do them. Frankly they were outstanding dogs who were near the end of their training. I did not get to see their early training. Also, theses dogs may not "guard" their handler, which would withhold treatment and care for their person.

My Yorkie came to the training fully obedience trained as well as having been in the confirmation ring for 10 months. We watched many dogs in the early stage fail the temperament and focus examinations. My dog was well ahead of the others her age due to her previous training but had the right temperament and focus. They told me her training would be 1.5 to 2 years, however she completed her program at 16.5 months.

They will not let a dog be matched with person who is in need until they are absolutely reliable and consistent. Ha, it almost took longer to train me than it did her! She was smarter!!
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The training for a SD takes a very long time to complete and the dog MUST have an appropriate temperament. My SD is half yorkie, half chihuahua.

10 weeks is not long enough. You need to expect at LEAST a year of training for an adult dog, two for a baby.
In ten weeks Mario has finished his basic obedience and is part way into advanced obedience. He is no where near done. I expect his training to take 18 months or so. He has not really begun the hard stuff yet such as distraction training and task training.

He is doing great however!
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The seller is sometimes fast to ship and sometimes slow to ship. In my case they were very slow to ship and no communication despite all my emails. When I gave up, the book came in he next day.

There are two kinds of seizure dogs. One is an alert dog. The other is a recovery dog.

I hope you find the book helpful in your journey. In the one I bought, they did go over what constitutes good temperament for a service dog.

Maybe we can funny stories some day.
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Hey mayzoo I was wondering if you could share with me some of the ways that your yorkie will be able to support your child with autism? I realize it is a very broad spectrum and that kiddos fall into very different colors of that rainbow sometimes so that it could look very different for many different people but I would love to know if you would be willing to share
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Hey mayzoo I was wondering if you could share with me some of the ways that your yorkie will be able to support your child with autism? I realize it is a very broad spectrum and that kiddos fall into very different colors of that rainbow sometimes so that it could look very different for many different people but I would love to know if you would be willing to share
I do not mind in the slightest talking about kiddo and her challenges. I am very proud of everything she has accomplished.

She is not a runner, so Mario is, of course, not a tether dog. At 9lbs that is just not in his future. EVER lol.

Right now the planned tasks are:

Aide in communication and socialization. She can speak, but does not and a cute dog is a great ice breaker to get her back to talking about her dog then hopefully more later. People everywhere we go ask her questions about him: Breed, name, training etc...

He will be trained in intelligent disobedience just like a seeing eye dog. Kiddo needs to be reminded every time to look both ways for cars or she simply will not. He cannot stop her from walking in front of a car, but he can act as that reminder. If he sees a car and does not get up despite her giving him a release command that will be a reminder. Just his sitting down at an intersection or a crossing will likely be enough to remind her. She is already in complete control (I am hands off but closely supervising) in all outside settings. Of course, I am still doing all his training by verbal cues and interventions. He has a special split leash and one part is attached to her (only in case she drops the handle) and she holds the handle on the other part. She is in training right now as much as he is. She must be able to ccompletely control him and cue him AND she must learn to listen to him as well. They have to learn to work as a team or this simply will not work.

He also will alert her as her anxiety rises and comfort her till it drops.

She says she sleeps better with him in her room. Not sure if he is a pressure comfort, or a security help. I'll take any help I can get ��.

We will add more tasks as time goes on, but these are the biggies or now. Sorry for typos. On my phone right now.
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Oh thank you I was curious mostly because I have a seven year old boy with autism. His different body language seems to freak most mammals out I'm afraid the pony jumps aside, goats and sheep try to knock him down- he is as sweet as pumpkin pie but very out of synch with his spacial relationships and a walking injury waiting to happen! We are in occupational therapy. His emotional coping skills have grown a lot through standard in house therapy we have been in for the last two years but he still 'heats up' and I can really see how the focal point of a loving dog could really support triggering that calm centered space. I love the reminder aspect too- that makes a lot of sense. My little guy is a big rule follower so unless he is in a bad head space (in which case he forgets all of those basic safety things like where his body is in relation to cars, people, cliffs) he is pretty good about meticulous rule following. I also really like the social interaction piece, Orion had learned that he will get positive peer reactions from doing 'stupid funny' or self deprecating things and last year I think the peer response for misbehavior was very fueling as well since he isn't innately aware of typical ways to connect with others. Having a lovely pup to talk to others about- especially if you are disinclined to strike up a conversation is a great idea. Well good job mom and good luck with your training, thanks for sharing and please add on as you think of them
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