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07-17-2015, 08:13 AM | #1 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Christiana, PA, USA
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| Selling puppy with Luxating Patella Hi everyone, I have a question. I am in the process of selling my second litter of puppies (I own both parents). This paticular litter I have a puppy that was diagnosed with a Level 1 Luxating Patella. The vet said its very mild and he may outgrow but would ask that he not be used for breeding. I've done some reasearch and a lot of what I see is that its hereditary and could worsen and neither of my dogs or their parents have this not to mention they have produced 14 other puppies that have not had this condition. I reduced the puppies price and have made it aware to any interested buyer but everyone seems leery about purchasing him or have asked me to drastically reduce the price more. After all of this I'm thinking about just keeping him myself he is such an awesome little guy and deserves a good home. So here are my questions. Do you think I should get him checked out by another vet in the case he was misdiagnosed? Has anyone heard of puppies being misdaignosed before? I can't find anything about this issue being something they outgrow...has anyone else heard of this? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. |
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07-17-2015, 08:29 AM | #2 |
YT 1000 Club Member | First and foremost Welcome to YT! Yes, I've heard of a pup being misdiagnosed before when it comes to LP. A breeder I was interested in purchasing from had a litter available. I had choice of 3 boys, the boy I picked went for his 8 week health exam and the vet stated he had LP(not sure what grade) in one of his front knees. When the breeder went back a few weeks later for another exam the vet didn't find anything. The breeder called me with the latest findings and told me he wouldn't be comfortable selling that particular puppy to me and he would be placing said pup in a pet only home with limited registration(gave it to his family member for free). Yes, I would consider getting a different vets opinion. How old is the puppy? It may right itself as he grows, but that's great you're considering keeping him! If you do sell him will you be informing his new owners of the possible problems and cost associated with LP? |
07-17-2015, 11:19 AM | #3 |
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| How old is the puppy? You could definitely hold on to him and let him get some maturity to him. There is nothing that says you have to sell him now. By the time he's old enough to neuter you'll have had a couple more vet visits for shots and at each visit he can be re-evaluated. My vet thought my Mylee had LP, but at another visit he said it was tight and couldn't get it to pop. So I wouldn't rush to any judgement. From my standpoint, the next puppy I get, I would love to find one that is 8-12 months old anyways because by then, a lot of these issues will present beforehand. So even if you decide to let him go as an older puppy by then you'll have more info to fully disclose.
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07-17-2015, 11:30 AM | #4 |
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| I can see why you feel he may have been misdiagnosed but the truth is he most likely wasnt your vet who is qualified saw something. I dont see anything wrong with someone asking to reduce the price. Lp can progress tthe point of needing surgery and lifestyle changes for the dog. If you decikde not to keep him I would think of what is best for the new owners and reduce his price
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07-17-2015, 02:03 PM | #5 |
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| Our breeder was honest and told us about indications that Dinky had signs of LP. Our vet verified it, and at age 5, he did end up having the surgery. He was priced lower bc of the LP. |
07-17-2015, 04:27 PM | #6 |
YT 2000 Club Donating Member | First welcome to YT . And secondly how refreshing to hear of a breeder disclosing up front potential health problems. Eight wk old pups can have what is called loose knees which also can translate in some vets opinion as LP Grade one. In any case this pup under your care will need some extra special attention. Runners down on the floor - absolutely no jumping. Good exercise sic walks daily preferabley on grass. Strengthen the back leg muscles etc etc. If over the next 4 to 7 wks you can do this you may well find that that knee stabilizes itself. But doing nothing is not likely to get a positive result. And definitely buyers should be concerned with any pup diagnosed with LP. It is a condition that often worsens over time - and requires some special care by pet owners to *try* to avoid that happening. LP surgery is easily over $1500 and as your pup has already been diagnosed with LP pet insurance policies are unlikely to cover that knee and in fact the other knee. So keep that in mind when you think about selling this pup.... And knowing this what do you think the selling price of this dog should be at this point in time?
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07-17-2015, 08:11 PM | #7 |
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| You could get a second opinion that never hurts. I would be kind of curious if you looked back 7 generations if you could find any LP? Honestly if it is LP I would fix it as a puppy since LP can cause wear on the ACL and tears. So maybe talk to an orthopedic specialist get it fixed and after healing think about then rehoming him.
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07-18-2015, 04:38 AM | #8 |
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| A grade I will probably never need surgery. I would disclose it to the buyer, but I wouldn't discount the dog because it's barely a problem. Every one of my yorkies has some degree of it. You're right not to breed with it but it's pretty rampant in the breed anyway. As I said, a grade I is no big deal in my opinion and I think you'd be hard pressed to find a surgeon who would fix it now or even in the future.
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07-18-2015, 07:34 AM | #9 |
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| Thank you everyone! I was selling him $150 cheaper then the rest but had a few asking to buy him at only $100. I just wasn't willing to go that low and I'm hesitant on someone looking for a cheap deal. He is a sweet boy and needs a good loving home. He is currently 8 weeks I took his advertisement down at the moment and think I'll keep him a few more weeks at least so I can get him to the vet a few more times to be sure he does in fact have LP. I wanted the buyer to be fully aware so they can keep him montitored and proper care. I love these babies!! I understand the cost of fixing the problem should it worsen but if there is a posibilty of it fixing itself as he gets older I think its in our best intererst to be patient with finding him a good home. Like I said I may keep him or give him to someone I know. Do you think reducing the price $150 isn't enough? I definelty don't want to go as low as $100. Thanks for all your input! |
07-18-2015, 07:51 AM | #10 |
YT 2000 Club Donating Member | It sounds like you already have him reasonably priced And no I would not go as low as $100 - what do the dogs in shelters go for? What is
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07-18-2015, 08:26 AM | #11 |
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| L/P does not make a puppy worthless, IMO. I set a price and disclose everything I know. Take it or leave it.
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07-18-2015, 10:11 AM | #12 |
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| $100 is way too cheap for a yorkie. You can't even rescue one for that much. Most rescue fees are at least a few hundred, and more for puppies. I would be very leery of someone only wanting to pay $100 for a yorkie. If they can only afford $100 how will they afford food and care? And if he indeed does have LP, if he were to need surgery, how would they afford it? You said you reduced him $150, so what is his final price? Are the pups AKC?
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